Why did the Most High God create sin?
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Ok I will Ignore your post since Its Only for one person.
@seed_time_harvest ,
I'm sorry for my offense but I did reply correctly. I have just began to find topics that interested me and began posting.
Out of the blue........wham I'm hit with nonsense.
Please accept my humble apologies.
Unless you just don't like Gardenias
It appears as though you haven't thought this through.
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pottersclay
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Everything that God created was good. It was created for a purpose. The purpose of each creation pleased God.
Rebellion causes sin. Satan was the first to rebel then he taught others to do so.
Pride causes rebellion. Pride causes jealousy which turns into envy ,anger , causing to covet and so on.
The rebellion of satan shows us that the beings , angelical and mortal were created with free will.
God did not create sin but created the consequences of it....death.
Rebellion causes sin. Satan was the first to rebel then he taught others to do so.
Pride causes rebellion. Pride causes jealousy which turns into envy ,anger , causing to covet and so on.
The rebellion of satan shows us that the beings , angelical and mortal were created with free will.
God did not create sin but created the consequences of it....death.
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pottersclay
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Death was not created for man for hell was created for Lucifer and his angels.
By choice we forfeited our inheritance as children of God.
This life was never God's purpose for man. But by choice we chose it.
We are now living in the age of redemption which will surely come to pass.
Our God is so great that he knew what would happen before hand and prepared a way of escape before the foundations of the world.
..... Hallelujah maranatha.“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Yes, God knew.
God is Love. The greatest desire of love is... to love and to be loved.
Here is God's dilemma..... Love CANNOT be created. Love MUST have a choice. If God creates beings that love Him, He has created robots. Robots are manipulated and programmed, manipulation and being programmed is NOT LOVE.
So, God has to give us a CHOICE. He creates us with a capacity to love but we must choose to do so.
He knows we will make the wrong choice and choose to NOT love Him, He wants to give us another chance...so, He slays the Lamb BEFORE the creation of the world - a safety net for us.
What is the choice we have to make? It is Life or Death.....to Love God or to Hate God.
There is NO MIDDLE ground.....NO LUKEWARM.
God greatly desires us to choose to love Him. He's only taking those that love Him. Love will NOT dwell in eternity with those that hate Him.
Choose to know Him and to Love Him with ALL your heart, mind, and body. I have already chosen to do so, amen.
Was rebellion good? And therefore sin good? And therefore pride good?
All these things God created
1Sam.15:23 states rebellion is the same as witchcraft and stubbornness same as iniquity.
What is the opposite of rebellion but submission,therefore we must submit our will to God's will.
What is the opposite of God,no, not the devil for he was created and to be opposites they must be EQUAL but the opposite is NO GOD!
If we live in rebellion and sin then we take our place with evil and the devil to face the penalty of sin which is death and having no God!
What is the opposite of rebellion but submission,therefore we must submit our will to God's will.
What is the opposite of God,no, not the devil for he was created and to be opposites they must be EQUAL but the opposite is NO GOD!
If we live in rebellion and sin then we take our place with evil and the devil to face the penalty of sin which is death and having no God!
If you think so Why you ask.
IF some one love you then love another, you think all these things God creat,then you should happy for it.
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pottersclay
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None of these are good. Pride causes rebellion, rebellion causes sin.
To think of one's self as above another is pride.
Case in point...jesus took on the form of man as a servant he had come to save and not destroy.
He made himself of no reputation, but thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
He was humble but meek, kind but just, loving but stern, faithful yet asking, joyful yet weeped,
The seed of pride if you allow it to take root produces sin. Sin is not of God.
The serpent to Eve....then you will become as God knowing good and evil.
If God intended for man to have this knowledge he would of created him with it......pride.
The Lord God to cain........offer up what was asked and it will be accepted. Sin lays at the door of your heart.
Cain being humbled by God and embarrassed chose not to offer up what was exceptable.....pride.
Well remember, God made us gods (little g not big G ;p) too. Think of the scriptures “we are made in God’s likeness” and Jesus is quoted asking the disciples when they were panicking “Are ye not gods?”. Thus, we have the ability to create. But being imperfect, our hands cannot create perfect things. God gave us the ability to choose light/good, and for there to be a choice there has to be an opposite option to light which is darkness. WE created sin in us. God wants us to choose Him, not robots who adhere to their programming. So He created us to have “a sound mind” so we would be able to have free will and make our own choices so that a genuine, loving relationship with him was possible.
he didn’t , sin isn’t a creation, it is a corruption of the creation resulting from lack of faith . God is not responsible for sin and death. Mankind is
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
Romans 5:12 KJV
sin sprang to life the moment they are the fruit It became a spiritual entity that sought to overcome them the first mention of sin in scripture is after they ate the fruit became sinners and had thier first son
“And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.”
Genesis 4:6-7
sin desires mankind because only through man can sin act in the world. It want to rule us because of our earthly dominion. Sin is purely the will of Satan for Man and is not Gods creation , but the result of not believing Gods word in the beginning
well It’s a decent two pennies I thought in my own head , I’m glad you found some worth God bless
God is responsible for everything.
We don't even have 'free will'. We cannot will whatever we wish into existence, as God can.
yes that’s the classic deception your faith is telling you you can’t do anything Godnis telling you that has changed if you believe and are baptized into Christ
you need to accept the truth of the power of Jesus Christ in you , the enabling power of Jesus Christ to set you free
this is now your “ born again” reality but not if you reject it
“I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.”
Philippians 4:13
we are made to have free will it’s how God designed us when he put them in Eden he told them plainly “you are free to eat of any tree but you must not eat of this one particular tree or you will die “
are you saying they had no choice and Gid forces then to eat the fruit ? So son is his design for us ? So every lie comes from God? Every murder is because God makes it happen ?
Satan tells us we can’t choose to do good , Jesus tells us to believe him and what he tells us makes us free again , the issue is Satan has taken our free will and enslaved us to sin , tha the not Gods will ....this is his will for those who believe
“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”
John 8:31-32, 34, 36
he’s talking about being free again like before transgression came and Satan made men slaves to sin
Paul later witnesses this
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey,
his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death,
or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,
but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.”
Romans 6:16-18
you seem to be looking from the past life when we had no power to be free , the power to be free is to turn and believe e things Jesus preached notice Paul talks about “ obeying from the heart , the form of doctrine the Romans had received ?”
he’s talking about Jesus heart doctrine like the subject baptism , we obey it because we believe in the heart what the gospel declares about it . So we get baptized into Christ , based on Gods word about remitting our sins .
like anything in life we can say I’ll get baptized because God said it’s about remitting my sins “ or we can say “ I don’t need to get baptized I have faith regardless of what God said “
we can’t believe what we won’t hear and continually reject when we do hear it , but we can’t have faith without belief . We can believe the gospel and be free but we can’t then use our freedom to continue in sin because we will lose our inheritance until we start to hear about freedom , we can’t believe and until we believe we can’t be free
this is now our free choice if we come to christs freedom
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Galatians 5:13-
We have a choice of we are Christians Christ gave us one
if you think God is responsible for sin , then he punishes people for what he did . That isn’t God I feel as if you are mistaken about where sin came from but respect your right to think and. Relieve as you choose