meaning of MAKE EVERY EFFORT (or strive) to enter in through the narrow gate.
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And believe in Jesus mean believe His teaching and believe all His information.
He never lie, this is one of what He say
Matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Ye cursed in to everlasting fire/hell?
Why?
Because not helping the poor?
Hmm, salvation by work or faith?
Seem to me salvation by faith, but real faith bear fruit, and the fruit of Holy Spirit is love and what Jesus say in Matt 25 :41-45 is the manifestation of hate, not love that why Jesus say to them to go to eternal fire.
That is how Jesus will judge, not me, I a man not the judge. If I were judge, I will make easier, no matter what you do, murder, robing the bank, not helping the poor as long you believe Jesus as God, you save.
But not depend on what I want, that is His way.
He never lie, this is one of what He say
Matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Ye cursed in to everlasting fire/hell?
Why?
Because not helping the poor?
Hmm, salvation by work or faith?
Seem to me salvation by faith, but real faith bear fruit, and the fruit of Holy Spirit is love and what Jesus say in Matt 25 :41-45 is the manifestation of hate, not love that why Jesus say to them to go to eternal fire.
That is how Jesus will judge, not me, I a man not the judge. If I were judge, I will make easier, no matter what you do, murder, robing the bank, not helping the poor as long you believe Jesus as God, you save.
But not depend on what I want, that is His way.
I can't understand why @oyster67 would give this gem of a statement the "winner" status. The problem you two have is Scripture.
Romans 8:7-8 NLT - "For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will. 8 That's why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God."
I would recommend an actual Bible study for you two. In order to understand a book, we actually have to read it. Do it.
Romans 8:7-8 NLT - "For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will. 8 That's why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God."
I would recommend an actual Bible study for you two. In order to understand a book, we actually have to read it. Do it.
I ponder the teaching of Jesus about salvation by believe and the last judgement Jesus say, you don't need to murder, just not feed the hunger, enough make you to eternal fire. It is not easy for me. But in other side, I believe Jesus never lie, He is the judge and He will judge in the way He say.
I believe no body able to do it unles we really ask and seriously invite Him in to our heart, Love Him with all our strength
Mark 12
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Love with all you heart, to me it is not easy. Not only love, but with all your heart
That mean love God more than money, your family and yourself.
My question is how about we love God but love money more than God, do we save?
I believe no body able to do it unles we really ask and seriously invite Him in to our heart, Love Him with all our strength
Mark 12
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Love with all you heart, to me it is not easy. Not only love, but with all your heart
That mean love God more than money, your family and yourself.
My question is how about we love God but love money more than God, do we save?
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8:7-8 (KJV)
The saving gospel isn't the law of God, so that's a moot point. Subjecting yourself to the law of God isn't how you enter in at the strait gate.
Unsaved people can't please God by walking after the Spirit (context of Romans 8) because they don't have the indwelt Spirit to walk after. "Pleasing God" in Romans 8:8 is an entirely different matter from "getting saved", which Romans 8 isn't even addressing.
The saving gospel isn't the law of God, so that's a moot point. Subjecting yourself to the law of God isn't how you enter in at the strait gate.
Unsaved people can't please God by walking after the Spirit (context of Romans 8) because they don't have the indwelt Spirit to walk after. "Pleasing God" in Romans 8:8 is an entirely different matter from "getting saved", which Romans 8 isn't even addressing.
baptism is an act of faith we do it because we believe what God said about being baptized . When a sinner hears that God said this
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38
the remission of sins is why we get baptized we only do it , if we believe that it means our sins will be remitted. That’s how faith works God established a process for us to believe if we believe what he said we will do it .
when we get baptized it should be a pledge from God that our sins are now remitted if a Christian believes baptism is about remission of thier sins they will be baptized , if we explain it doesn’t mean anything either way they won’t because their faith isn’t built on the word .
“The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:”
1 Peter 3:21 KJV
in other words if we accept that God established that baptism is for remission of sins , and we obey this and donor because we believe . Then we have Gods pledge that we have done what he said would remit our sins .
faith is simple if God established anything and we believe it we will do it , if we don’t believe baptism is about remission of sins like Gods word actually teaches we aren’t going to bother it would be just a ritual at that point meaning nothing
but if we hear the word and believe what he said , it’s going to be Gods pledge of remission in christs death formoir sins
honestly I don’t think there’s any other purpose of getting baptized but what God said it’s for and I don’t see a reason to swerve around it
It’s orettt important stuff if we don’t do that
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Romans 6:3-4 KJV
I know we can argue about what we each think baptism Means or is but if we just accept that it’s for remission of sins we should be overjoyed to go get baptized and have Gods pledge that our sins are remitted
also there’s a lot of assurance as we read scripture so that if we have been baptized it offers comfort because there’s a lot of times we hear things like this
“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Galatians 3:26-27 KJV
I’m not sure why we would want to argue about the necessary of baptism but I don’t believe that Godnis wanting to throw us away because we didn’t understand baptism I’m not sure why you went to baptism but my own view and that’s all it is is above .
I think we need to learn to believe right because of we do we will begin to act right baptism is a simple offer from God that if you believe what he’s saying and act in that belief he will wash away your sins
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38
the remission of sins is why we get baptized we only do it , if we believe that it means our sins will be remitted. That’s how faith works God established a process for us to believe if we believe what he said we will do it .
when we get baptized it should be a pledge from God that our sins are now remitted if a Christian believes baptism is about remission of thier sins they will be baptized , if we explain it doesn’t mean anything either way they won’t because their faith isn’t built on the word .
“The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:”
1 Peter 3:21 KJV
in other words if we accept that God established that baptism is for remission of sins , and we obey this and donor because we believe . Then we have Gods pledge that we have done what he said would remit our sins .
faith is simple if God established anything and we believe it we will do it , if we don’t believe baptism is about remission of sins like Gods word actually teaches we aren’t going to bother it would be just a ritual at that point meaning nothing
but if we hear the word and believe what he said , it’s going to be Gods pledge of remission in christs death formoir sins
honestly I don’t think there’s any other purpose of getting baptized but what God said it’s for and I don’t see a reason to swerve around it
It’s orettt important stuff if we don’t do that
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Romans 6:3-4 KJV
I know we can argue about what we each think baptism Means or is but if we just accept that it’s for remission of sins we should be overjoyed to go get baptized and have Gods pledge that our sins are remitted
also there’s a lot of assurance as we read scripture so that if we have been baptized it offers comfort because there’s a lot of times we hear things like this
“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Galatians 3:26-27 KJV
I’m not sure why we would want to argue about the necessary of baptism but I don’t believe that Godnis wanting to throw us away because we didn’t understand baptism I’m not sure why you went to baptism but my own view and that’s all it is is above .
I think we need to learn to believe right because of we do we will begin to act right baptism is a simple offer from God that if you believe what he’s saying and act in that belief he will wash away your sins
yes the simple equation is this in my own opinion , and that’s all it is just my own thoughts about it
I think this scripture
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”
Titus 2:11-14
Grave for Salvation is a call to repentance that we don’t refuse
“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
Luke 5:32 KJV
we need to believe the gospel because it calls us out of sin
I think this scripture
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”
Titus 2:11-14
Grave for Salvation is a call to repentance that we don’t refuse
“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
Luke 5:32 KJV
we need to believe the gospel because it calls us out of sin
Well, thank you. After having read what I've written, I could have made things much clear, but I didn't even proofread it. Runningman, what I have written is at the very Heart of the entire Bible. I hope that it gave you some things to think about and consider. I want you to know that I am not a Prophet, but just a regular person that views himself as something like a Biblical Reporter. I have been studying, cataloging, and organizing the Word of God for years now. I am totally convinced that anyone who does what I have been blessed to do, they too, will come to the same conclusions.
It is amazing, but I have found a way to make the Bible fully reasonable and rational . . . and I believe that these reasons and rationalities are at the True, Core, Heart of the Bible.
It is amazing, but I have found a way to make the Bible fully reasonable and rational . . . and I believe that these reasons and rationalities are at the True, Core, Heart of the Bible.
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They that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Being in Christ, is having His Spirit which we are to walk after. Having His Spirit means you are his
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Being in Christ, is having His Spirit which we are to walk after. Having His Spirit means you are his
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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Nice Work! It's all as clear as a bell (to me). The problem that engulfs the ability to understand God's Holy Word, and I'll use myself as an example, is that I never understood the ultimate Purpose of the entire Bible . . . I hadn't a bloody clue, and why would I? I'd never read the Old Testament, though called myself a sort of "master" regarding certain doctrine. How pathetic was I? Here I was referring to myself as a "master" of Biblical concepts but hadn't even read the Old Testament. It's amazing that God didn't strike my crazy butt down! But the truth is this . . . I thoroughly believed in my Eternal Salvation, and that nothing could keep me from the Love of Christ. Nothing.
But when we understand even the Bigger Picture of the Mysterious Plan of God, as Paul outlines it in its most basic form in Ephesians chapters 2 and 3, the entire Bible becomes absolutely reasonable and rational in just about every way. The Core Doctrine that leads to all of these things? The Doctrine of Circumcised Hearts. I have a link to a video on these matters on Youtube. All are welcome to send me a private message for the link. It just might change a person's life.
But when we understand even the Bigger Picture of the Mysterious Plan of God, as Paul outlines it in its most basic form in Ephesians chapters 2 and 3, the entire Bible becomes absolutely reasonable and rational in just about every way. The Core Doctrine that leads to all of these things? The Doctrine of Circumcised Hearts. I have a link to a video on these matters on Youtube. All are welcome to send me a private message for the link. It just might change a person's life.
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Yes I agree with the circumcision of the heart
Deut 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
And circumcision is that of the heart (made without hands) and done in the spirit "TO love Him" . Its the love of God shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Shows all of these and all the house of Isreal whether circumcised in the flesh or not are uncircumcised in heart.
Jeremiah 9:25-26 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised; Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.
Deut 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
And circumcision is that of the heart (made without hands) and done in the spirit "TO love Him" . Its the love of God shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Shows all of these and all the house of Isreal whether circumcised in the flesh or not are uncircumcised in heart.
Jeremiah 9:25-26 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised; Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.
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You can be in the flesh or in the Spirit, in the former you cannot please God. If we live by the Spirit we should walk by the Spirit and when you walk by the Spirit you will not fulfil the lusts of the flesh.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The one without His Spirit is shown here as not belonging to Jesus Christ
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The one without His Spirit is shown here as not belonging to Jesus Christ
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