Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?

[DWR]

yes, I believe it does as I said there are scriptural references to support mainly the PRe-Trib and Post Raptures. YET they are non-essentials for salvation as I also said and it has been the NORMAL doctrine of the soon return of the Lord known as the Doctrine of imminence. You choose to attack those who disagree with you. That is the difference between you and others who hold the doctrine of the pre-trib rapture.

Then you have to create a false narrative that is causing false hope. They have provided scriptures that support the understanding

The very History of God supernaturally saving those from Judgement HIS Judgement is well seen.

Noah is the most notable. The crossing of the Red sea but I bet you have a Medial explanation or a different weather report than the word of God..

Noah was not taken out but had to ride out the storm on a boat that he built according to God's instructions.
Just saying.

 

[CS1]

I don't understand Israel, you would have thought the survivors of the holocaust would be empathic towards the Palestinians. Instead they have created hell on earth there. No I don't support Israel's war especially as a cease fire was offered

please you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Truth7t7]

Hey 7t7,
I had thought that the 70 weeks things was that a week was 7 years and that it was describing Jesus since He put an end to sacrifices. Then the Romans come in and destroyed the temple a little bit afterwards. What's the deal with that viewpoint? What, in your opinion, is the error with that viewpoint?

Don't be afraid to dummy down your answer. hahaha

The view you present is Preterism in 1st century fulfillment, a mainstream teaching in reformed churches in (Historicism) as they have different teachings of their Antichrist, Nero, Titus, Vespasian, etc, and the temple destruction was the end of the law etc

The main point evolves around their false teaching in deception that the Antichrist seen in Daniel has been fulfilled, when scripture clearly teaches this human man is future, and will be present on earth until the second coming and consummation in final judgement (The End)

The Little Horn/Antichrist present on earth to the second coming, final judgement seen below

Daniel 7:9-11KJV
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

The Antichrist seen below, will be present on earth to the consummation (The End)

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The future Antichrist seen below in Daniel 11:37 will be a Jew/Hebrew in decent, his fathers worshipped the true Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.

2 Chronicles 33:12-13KJV
12 And when he was in affliction, he besought the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers,
13 And prayed unto him: and he was intreated of him, and heard his supplication, and brought him again to Jerusalem into his kingdom. Then Manasseh knew that the Lord he was God.

 

[CS1]

Noah was not taken out but had to ride out the storm on a boat that he built according to God's instructions.
Just saying.

God gave Noah the plan how to make it a type of Passover, Moses crossed the Red Sea a type of Passover, The angel of death saw the blood a type of Passover Jesus was literally taken up and said I go to prepare a place for you that were I am there you may be also John Chapter 14. God has repeatedly saved his people with HIS Mighty Power and HE will do it again. The Bible I read says I have not been subject to Wrath.

 

[DWR]

I don't understand Israel, you would have thought the survivors of the holocaust would be empathic towards the Palestinians. Instead they have created hell on earth there. No I don't support Israel's war especially as a cease fire was offered

NO!!! The Palestinians brought hell on earth on their own people when the fired the first rocket at Israel civilians.
This will never end as long as Islam continues its efforts to kill all Jews.
They have stated that as their goal many times for many years.

 

[CS1]

Noah was not taken out but had to ride out the storm on a boat that he built according to God's instructions.
Just saying.

when he got done riding everyone else was dead LOL. You don't understand The Noah event, but Jesus explained it.

AS the days of Noah were so shall be when the Son of Man comes. They partied all the way up until Noah entered the Ark Jesus said.
Guess what there were no boats made before then because it had not rained before and those on the earth during Noah's day Mocked and scoffed at him 120 years. They too did not believe in the flood to come.

There is more talk about a UFO on a US Navy Camera and the possibility of people from Outerspace than God's ability to save his people.

 

[soberxp]

我 只 支持 耶稣 基督，当爱 你的 仇敌。
I only support Jesus Christ, love your enemies.

 

[SoulSearcher]

please you don't know what you are talking about.

A ceasefire was offered before this escalated

 

[DWR]

God gave Noah the plan how to make it a type of Passover, Moses crossed the Red Sea a type of Passover, The angel of death saw the blood a type of Passover Jesus was literally taken up and said I go to prepare a place for you that were I am there you may be also John Chapter 14. God has repeatedly saved his people with HIS Mighty Power and HE will do it again. The Bible I read says I have not been subject to Wrath.

And God has saved many from His wrath while still on this earth.
Many have and will die and God has and will bring through those He choses to bring through.
I just hope that when the man of sin is revealed and the great tribulation that Jesus spoke of begins that those who have been mislead to believe in a pre-trib rapture do not act as the Apostles did the night Jesus was arrested.

 

[soberxp]

Open Door - Mike Shinoda

Yeah they tell you that you should quit trying

You are too small that you are too young

They tell you the chance is too slim

The world is too big but you say "how come"

I'm ready to light a new fire

Raise a new flag to cross a new sea

And if I'm ever the one in your way

Then put your head down and run right through me

So why keep settling for so much less

Don't take what's given just demand what's next

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

Some way to get out of here

A plot twist that we didn't see coming

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

And when we get out of here we'll

No no we'll never stop running

It's something like a shadow in the valley colossal

Open up your eyes young one and be watchful

Behind closed doors trying to write a new gospel

They are not God they're not even apostles

I come with the dumb drum banging you breathless

Enemies freeze left bent and defenseless

Straight for the chest of anybody against us

The more they resist it the more that they tempt us

So why keep settling for so much less

Don't take what's given just demand what's next

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

Some way to get out of here

A plot twist that we didn't see coming

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

And when we get out of here we'll

Take off and never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

When we get that open door

Open door open door

So why keep settling for so much less

Don't take what's given just demand what's next

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

Some way to get out of here

A plot twist that we didn't see coming

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

And when we get out of here we'll

Take off and never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

When we get that open door

No no no never stop running

No no no never stop running

No no no never stop running

When we get that open door

No no no never stop running

 

[soberxp]

我 只 支持 耶稣 基督，当爱 你的 仇敌。
I only support Jesus Christ, love your enemies.
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Open Door - Mike Shinoda

Yeah they tell you that you should quit trying

You are too small that you are too young

They tell you the chance is too slim

The world is too big but you say "how come"

I'm ready to light a new fire

Raise a new flag to cross a new sea

And if I'm ever the one in your way

Then put your head down and run right through me

So why keep settling for so much less

Don't take what's given just demand what's next

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

Some way to get out of here

A plot twist that we didn't see coming

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

And when we get out of here we'll

No no we'll never stop running

It's something like a shadow in the valley colossal

Open up your eyes young one and be watchful

Behind closed doors trying to write a new gospel

They are not God they're not even apostles

I come with the dumb drum banging you breathless

Enemies freeze left bent and defenseless

Straight for the chest of anybody against us

The more they resist it the more that they tempt us

So why keep settling for so much less

Don't take what's given just demand what's next

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

Some way to get out of here

A plot twist that we didn't see coming

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

And when we get out of here we'll

Take off and never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

When we get that open door

Open door open door

So why keep settling for so much less

Don't take what's given just demand what's next

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

Some way to get out of here

A plot twist that we didn't see coming

We're looking for an open door

Something we didn't see before

And when we get out of here we'll

Take off and never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

No no we'll never stop running

When we get that open door

No no no never stop running

No no no never stop running

No no no never stop running

When we get that open door

No no no never stop running

 

[DWR]

A ceasefire was offered before this escalated

Sure it was.
Sent in rockets and kill civilians and then ask for a ceasefire before Israel can respond.
If some one attacks my family I will take them out.

 

[CS1]

A ceasefire was offered before this escalated

you do not attack innocent people then cry for a cease-fire. That is a coward. They hide their rockets where children play and the possibility of collateral damage to make other Muslims incited to hate and join the cause.

 

[Truth7t7]

Hey 7t7,
I had thought that the 70 weeks things was that a week was 7 years and that it was describing Jesus since He put an end to sacrifices. Then the Romans come in and destroyed the temple a little bit afterwards. What's the deal with that viewpoint? What, in your opinion, is the error with that viewpoint?

Don't be afraid to dummy down your answer. hahaha

A great deception is the teaching of a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth, where a physical Jesus, returns to earth taking a throne of David in Jerusalem, as many teach this, who will this be?

Correct it will be the future Man of Sin the Antichrist, and the supposed tribulation will be erased, as the false prophet performs miracles in the sight of the Beast as the decieved receive the mark, and worship the image

Jesus Christ warned the Church of this future deception, and many are taking the Millennial Kingdom teaching, hook, line, and sinker, that is preparing the way for this evil human man, (The Beast) "Beware"!

"Go Not Forth" "Believe It Not"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[CS1]

And God has saved many from His wrath while still on this earth.
Many have and will die and God has and will bring through those He choses to bring through.
I just hope that when the man of sin is revealed and the great tribulation that Jesus spoke of begins that those who have been mislead to believe in a pre-trib rapture do not act as the Apostles did the night Jesus was arrested.

true and HE will save many by taking them out of the earth too as HE did Enoch, Elijah, and the Lord Jesus who said HE would come and receive us unto Himself.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God currently has no covenant with National Ethnic Israel, it's this point you dont want to accept

Gods covenant made to Israel was FOREVER (gen 12, 15 and 17)

Genesis 12:1–2 (NKJV): Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
2 I will make you a great nation;

Genesis 15:18–21 (NKJV): To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates—19 the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”

Genesis 17:8 (NKJV): Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

FOEVER has not ended last I looked. And the land is still there last I looked.,

It is this fact you refuse to acknowledge

 

[soberxp]

you do not attack innocent people then cry for a cease-fire. That is a coward. They hide their rockets where children play and the possibility of collateral damage to make other Muslims incited to hate and join the cause.

STOP THE NONESENCE ！
我 只 支持 耶稣 基督，当爱 你的 仇敌。
I only support Jesus Christ, love your enemies.

 

[DWR]

when he got done riding everyone else was dead LOL. You don't understand The Noah event, but Jesus explained it.

AS the days of Noah were so shall be when the Son of Man comes. They partied all the way up until Noah entered the Ark Jesus said.
Guess what there were no boats made before then because it had not rained before and those on the earth during Noah's day Mocked and scoffed at him 120 years. They too did not believe in the flood to come.

There is more talk about a UFO on a US Navy Camera and the possibility of people from Outerspace than God's ability to save his people.

Well, I believe you don't understand so we will have to agree to disagree.
In my opinion. we will soon see who is correct.

 

[CS1]

Sure it was.
Sent in rockets and kill civilians and then ask for a ceasefire before Israel can respond.
If someone attacks my family I will take them out.

there is a bunch of Israel-hating people here. I heard that anti-semantics were increasing in the church but I did not know they were so prevalent. sad. hiding a professing Christians now.

 

[CS1]

Well, I believe you don't understand so we will have to agree to disagree.
In my opinion. we will soon see who is correct.

the word of God is