Daniel 11:37, The Future Antichrist Will Be A Jew/Hebrew In Decent

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Truth7t7

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The (Little Horn) or Antichrist Of Daniel Will Be A Jew/Hebrew, His Ancestry Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.


2 Kings 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.


2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.
 

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The (Little Horn) or Antichrist Of Daniel Will Be A Jew/Hebrew, His Ancestry Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.


2 Kings 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.


2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.
Glad to see all are aware, the future (Man of Sin/Antichrist) will be a (Jew/Hebrew) in decent, "Beware":)
 

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The (Little Horn) or Antichrist Of Daniel Will Be A Jew/Hebrew, His Ancestry Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Although the Pope still remains restricted to celibacy, the rule for priests in the Catholic Church is a topic of debate nowadays. ... He issued a defence of priestly celibacy in a book co-authored with Cardinal Robert Sarah.
https://www.vaticancitytours.it/blog/do-popes-marry/#:~:text=Although the Pope still remains,a topic of debate nowadays.&text=He issued a defence of,authored with Cardinal Robert Sarah.

Pope claims to be: Holy Father, High Priest, Judge of the Faithful, Supreme Lawgiver, and King.

2 Kings 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.



2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.

2 Kings 21:7
Manasseh even made a carved image of Asherah and set it up in the Temple, the very place where the LORD had told David and his son Solomon: “My name will be honored forever in this Temple and in Jerusalem—the city I have chosen from among all the tribes of Israel.

What is an Asherah?
Asherah /əˈʃɪərə/,[a] in ancient Semitic religion, is a mother goddess who appears in a number of ancient sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah

The Shrine of Our Lady of Czestochowa
https://czestochowa.us/


Your entire post points to the Roman Church - then and now. Catholicism is Old Testament Judaism.
 

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Although the Pope still remains restricted to celibacy, the rule for priests in the Catholic Church is a topic of debate nowadays. ... He issued a defence of priestly celibacy in a book co-authored with Cardinal Robert Sarah.
https://www.vaticancitytours.it/blog/do-popes-marry/#:~:text=Although the Pope still remains,a topic of debate nowadays.&text=He issued a defence of,authored with Cardinal Robert Sarah.

Pope claims to be: Holy Father, High Priest, Judge of the Faithful, Supreme Lawgiver, and King.




2 Kings 21:7
Manasseh even made a carved image of Asherah and set it up in the Temple, the very place where the LORD had told David and his son Solomon: “My name will be honored forever in this Temple and in Jerusalem—the city I have chosen from among all the tribes of Israel.

What is an Asherah?
Asherah /əˈʃɪərə/,[a] in ancient Semitic religion, is a mother goddess who appears in a number of ancient sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah

The Shrine of Our Lady of Czestochowa
https://czestochowa.us/


Your entire post points to the Roman Church - then and now. Catholicism is Old Testament Judaism.
The anti Christ cannot be a Pope. Every Pope has believed the Messiah was Jesus. That’s dogma. Dogma cannot be changed once it is promulgated.

It’s simply impossible for a future Pope to be that either. There is no way a priest can spend decades and decades doing his job while at the same time rejecting the divinity of Christ. There is no way that priest would not be expelled much less become a Cardinal that could be considered for election to the Bishop of Rome.
 

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The (Little Horn) or Antichrist Of Daniel Will Be A Jew/Hebrew, His Ancestry Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)



Daniel 11:37KJV

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
It doesn't say the God of Daniel's fathers.
It says the God of ((the antichrist's)) fathers.

So this passage is not proof that he will be a Jew. You're eisegeseting to say it does.
Your statement does not necessarily follow as fact by the scriptures you put.


I say this even while my position is that Judas will return and be that Evil Thing. And Judas, a Jew.
So the particular turn of phrase used in Daniel 11:37 may be corroborative but it isn't proof of your assertion.
 

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I say this even while my position is that Judas will return and be that Evil Thing. And Judas, a Jew.
So the particular turn of phrase used in Daniel 11:37 may be corroborative but it isn't proof of your assertion.
I’m very interested in hearing this. Are you saying Judas will be bodily resurrected, reincarnated, or possessing someone?
 

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Why not? Plenty of preachers do it =/
A Priest has very similar Sunday job functions as a Pastor in any Protestant Church. Are you saying your congregation wouldn’t be able to tell after decades of listening to him preach during the week and teach in Sunday school that he didn’t believe Jesus is the Messiah?
 
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Abraham had two sons mentioned in Scripture by name.
The man of sin will be a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham by the hand maid not Isaac the son of promise.
He will not be a Jew, nor a Pope. He will be from Islam.
 

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A Priest has very similar Sunday job functions as a Pastor in any Protestant Church. Are you saying your congregation wouldn’t be able to tell after decades of listening to him preach during the week and teach in Sunday school that he didn’t believe Jesus is the Messiah?
i'm saying many congregations also don't believe Christ is God. that's not the same as saying Christ isn't the Messiah -- the key is that the Messiah is God Himself, manifest in flesh. see John 8:24 ;)


there are plenty of people even here in these forums who don't believe that
 

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Abraham had two sons mentioned in Scripture by name.
The man of sin will be a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham by the hand maid not Isaac the son of promise.
He will not be a Jew, nor a Pope. He will be from Islam.
in which case @Truth7t7 "not regard the God of his fathers" can be referring to not worshipping Allah, because if DWR is right then it is Allah that was the God of his fathers, not YHWH.

so you see it is not proof that he will be a Jew. it is proof that he will reject the traditions and beliefs of his people, that's all. maybe he's a muslim who rejects Mohammed; that would satisfy Daniel 11:37
 

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Are you saying your congregation wouldn’t be able to tell after decades of listening to him preach during the week and teach in Sunday school that he didn’t believe Jesus is the Messiah?
my particular church, no way. every sermon our pastor tells us Christ is God about 15 times, at least. we call it "rule #1" for interpreting scripture: Christ is never not God. we are trained to spot denying that within 5 minutes

:)
 

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i'm saying many congregations also don't believe Christ is God. that's not the same as saying Christ isn't the Messiah -- the key is that the Messiah is God Himself, manifest in flesh. see John 8:24 ;)


there are plenty of people even here in these forums who don't believe that
I get what you’re saying. But someone that believed Christ wasn’t divine or the Messiah couldn’t get past any Trinitarian church (Catholic or Protestant) for very long before they got the boot. I could see the anti christ coming from a Unitarian type church.
 

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I get what you’re saying. But someone that believed Christ wasn’t divine or the Messiah couldn’t get past any Trinitarian church (Catholic or Protestant) for very long before they got the boot. I could see the anti christ coming from a Unitarian type church.
before i was convinced it is Judas, i always thought a mormon is more likely than a pope.

the mormons even have a specific prophecy (('white horse prophecy')) about someone taking control of the US government & also being enthroned in a mormon temple, and holding power over the whole world from there. and they believe they themselves become gods, that Jesus was only an exalted human, that He is different from YHWH and that YHWH was also once a human under another god, who became exalted to be god over planet earth.

some segment of American Christianity has always called every pope and every non-Republican president the antichrist. i'm very suspicious of those kinds of people.
 

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my particular church, no way. every sermon our pastor tells us Christ is God about 15 times, at least. we call it "rule #1" for interpreting scripture: Christ is never not God. we are trained to spot denying that within 5 minutes

:)
You must be a Jehovah's Witness Then?
 

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before i was convinced it is Judas, i always thought a mormon is more likely than a pope.

the mormon's even have a specific prophecy about someone taking control of the US government & also being enthroned in a mormon temple, and holding power over the whole world from there. and they believe they themselves become gods, that Jesus was only an exalted human, that He is different from YHWH and that YHWH was also once a human under another god, who became exalted to be god over planet earth.

some segment of American Christianity has always called every pope and every non-Republican president the antichrist. i'm very suspicious of those kinds of people.
The future Antichrist is going to be a Hebrew/Jew and King/Ruler

The Mormons also believe and teach, the New Jerusalem is going to be in Independance Missouri of all places?

If your going to have the earthly dream, why not Hawaii?
 

posthuman

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If your going to have the earthly dream, why not Hawaii?
because Brigham Young died in 1877 and Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959

also because they were forcibly kicked out of Missouri. knowing some facts is useful :)