Perhaps A Way To Read Prophecy?

[Kafziel]

I've come to the realization that prophecy never tells you when something is going happen exactly. It tells you if it's going to happen.

So bear with me on this. You could technically speak a prophecy with enough wisdom. Nature and destiny are intertwined in a way, that which has a nature has a destiny. So then, if you know the nature of things, you can determine a destiny. It will certainly not be when it occurs but if at some point it occurs.

"The meek shall inherit the earth" for example. If then a parent is like it's child and the cautious tend to survive then humans will eventually grow to have cautious nature.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I've come to the realization that prophecy never tells you when something is going happen exactly. It tells you if it's going to happen.

So bear with me on this. You could technically speak a prophecy with enough wisdom. Nature and destiny are intertwined in a way, that which has a nature has a destiny. So then, if you know the nature of things, you can determine a destiny. It will certainly not be when it occurs but if at some point it occurs.

"The meek shall inherit the earth" for example. If then a parent is like it's child and the cautious tend to survive then humans will eventually grow to have cautious nature.

Let us remember that prophecy is quite accurate just not on the time. Read the Isaiah suffering servant prophecy. It is so accurate that no one honestly could deny it is Jesus.

The meek shall inherit the earth wasn't a prophecy. Wisdom literature in scripture is to guide us in the wisdom of God not necessarily prophecy of events to come.

Just because I know the nature of weather and can predict the rain, doesn't classify it as prophecy.

 

[Rondonmon]

I've come to the realization that prophecy never tells you when something is going happen exactly. It tells you if it's going to happen.

So bear with me on this. You could technically speak a prophecy with enough wisdom. Nature and destiny are intertwined in a way, that which has a nature has a destiny. So then, if you know the nature of things, you can determine a destiny. It will certainly not be when it occurs but if at some point it occurs.

"The meek shall inherit the earth" for example. If then a parent is like it's child and the cautious tend to survive then humans will eventually grow to have cautious nature.

That's not really true, it just takes a keen person to understand the whens.....like the three Wisemen or King Herod's men who understand the birth of Jesus was prophesied and thus they tried to kill baby Jesus.

Should we look for a date of the Rapture? No, we can't know the day nor hour, but a keen man understand the Day of the Lord event happens 3.5 years into the 70th week, and thus the Mountain (Asteroid) that is cast into the Sea in Rev. 8 should be looked for, not the Rapture and then by subtracting 3.5 years you can get the Season of the Rapture. Now we know why Jesus told us to look to the skies. We can see these things years in advance now, so how can a SPACE ROCK slam into us without us knowing it's a possibility? It can't, so, we need to look for the Signs in the Skies, and Apophis is scheduled to come within 19 k miles of the earth on April 13, 2029, and that is 10 TIMES closer than the moon !! By looking around me, I can see it is time for the Lord to show up, so why would I not see Apophis as being the DOTL ? And thus 3.5 years before that would be the FALL of 2025. I am expecting to be on my way to heave in the fall of 2025. I hope very much that this comes to pass, I despise this evil world.

 

[Dino246]

"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20-21)

Genuine prophecy is from God, not from the mind of man, no matter how wise.

 

[Jocund]

Biblically, dreams were often a vehicle for prophesy.

Taking a dive into the deep end for a moment... If God works in mysterious ways, what if time is non-linear and events in prophesies are actually just segments of time that have already occurred?

 

[OrphanedRepublican]

That's not really true, it just takes a keen person to understand the whens.....like the three Wisemen or King Herod's men who understand the birth of Jesus was prophesied and thus they tried to kill baby Jesus.

Should we look for a date of the Rapture? No, we can't know the day nor hour, but a keen man understand the Day of the Lord event happens 3.5 years into the 70th week, and thus the Mountain (Asteroid) that is cast into the Sea in Rev. 8 should be looked for, not the Rapture and then by subtracting 3.5 years you can get the Season of the Rapture. Now we know why Jesus told us to look to the skies. We can see these things years in advance now, so how can a SPACE ROCK slam into us without us knowing it's a possibility? It can't, so, we need to look for the Signs in the Skies, and Apophis is scheduled to come within 19 k miles of the earth on April 13, 2029, and that is 10 TIMES closer than the moon !! By looking around me, I can see it is time for the Lord to show up, so why would I not see Apophis as being the DOTL ? And thus 3.5 years before that would be the FALL of 2025. I am expecting to be on my way to heave in the fall of 2025. I hope very much that this comes to pass, I despise this evil world.

While what you said is very interesting, I just have to ask you, why do you expect the expected? For instance, the asteroid. You have an expectation that we'll see it coming or we know it's coming. But, God has declared that he has set everything in the heavens in its place and what is to stop him from just picking up a rock (or a mountain sized chunk of iron) and hurling it at the Earth while we're expecting another one to hit us later from another part of the sky?

 

[Kafziel]

"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20-21)

Genuine prophecy is from God, not from the mind of man, no matter how wise.

Ah thank you. Perhaps I was wrong but I think that's the best man can do anyway. Destiny through intrinsic qualities.

 

[OrphanedRepublican]

Biblically, dreams were often a vehicle for prophesy.

Taking a dive into the deep end for a moment... If God works in mysterious ways, what if time is non-linear and events in prophesies are actually just segments of time that have already occurred?

I have been wondering the same thing.

The event in the garden when Moses and Elijah were seen speaking with Jesus. Technically, that could not have happened because Jesus is the first begotten of the dead. It's not possible for Moses to be standing there speaking to him in sight of people.

Was this a slice of a future event that God allowed the disciples to witness in their time period?

 

[Truth7t7]

Biblically, dreams were often a vehicle for prophesy.

Taking a dive into the deep end for a moment... If God works in mysterious ways, what if time is non-linear and events in prophesies are actually just segments of time that have already occurred?

In Gods spiritual realm the future has occurred, the Lord Jesus Christ is the Alpha/Omega

Looks like Philip below, was transmitted to another city by God below, beam me up Scotty

Perhaps our prayer to beat rush time traffic could be a reality?

Acts 8:39-40KJV
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

 

[laymen]

I've come to the realization that prophecy never tells you when something is going happen exactly. It tells you if it's going to happen.

So bear with me on this. You could technically speak a prophecy with enough wisdom. Nature and destiny are intertwined in a way, that which has a nature has a destiny. So then, if you know the nature of things, you can determine a destiny. It will certainly not be when it occurs but if at some point it occurs.

"The meek shall inherit the earth" for example. If then a parent is like it's child and the cautious tend to survive then humans will eventually grow to have cautious nature.

Hello kafziel

The book 1Cor 14:22 tells us that Prophecy is for the believer not the unbeliever. Focus on the Prophecy's that have come to pass. Our faith should grow knowing that What God says he will do he does . So knowing he was faithful then he will be faith in his own time in the future.

Satan can speak prophecy with wisdom so we should take heed only to get our Prophecy from Gods word. And test any one clamming to have a Prophecy by the word.

 

[Kafziel]

Hello kafziel

The book 1Cor 14:22 tells us that Prophecy is for the believer not the unbeliever. Focus on the Prophecy's that have come to pass. Our faith should grow knowing that What God says he will do he does . So knowing he was faithful then he will be faith in his own time in the future.

Satan can speak prophecy with wisdom so we should take heed only to get our Prophecy from Gods word. And test any one clamming to have a Prophecy by the word.

Well God is no present in the minds of all as far as I understand it. People need discerning tools to live better. It helps us discern good actions from bad actions. Not everything is covered in the bible as to what we should or should not do.

 

[Truth7t7]

Well God is no present in the minds of all as far as I understand it. People need discerning tools to live better. It helps us discern good actions from bad actions. Not everything is covered in the bible as to what we should or should not do.

God's words of truth is all that is needed for the believer

2 Timothy 3:16-17KJV
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[Nehemiah6]

If God works in mysterious ways, what if time is non-linear and events in prophesies are actually just segments of time that have already occurred?

If something has already occurred, then it is past. A major aspect of Bible prophecies is future events, and there is a whole raft of events to occur in the future.

At the present time Christendom (all denominations) are generally in a state of apostasy, which was predicted by Paul already. So the next event on God's calendar is the Resurrection/Rapture, which will then make way for the Antichrist to take total control. Nano-technology will be a weapon in his hands (as it is presently in the hands of his minions, the globalist elites). But the divine Restrainer (the Holy Spirit) must be "taken out of the way" (which also means that the Church will be taken out of the way). Only then can the whole world be under "strong delusion".

 

[Truth7t7]

At the present time Christendom (all denominations) are generally in a state of apostasy, which was predicted by Paul already. So the next event on God's calendar is the Resurrection/Rapture, which will then make way for the Antichrist to take total control. Nano-technology will be a weapon in his hands (as it is presently in the hands of his minions, the globalist elites). But the divine Restrainer (the Holy Spirit) must be "taken out of the way" (which also means that the Church will be taken out of the way). Only then can the whole world be under "strong delusion".

Your claim of a pre-trib rapture is found no place in the scripture, and the resurrection takes place on the (Last Day)

The main scripture used by supporters of the Pre-Trib Rapture is 1 Thess 4:15-17 below, this is nothing more than the (Second Coming) (Last Day) resurrection, not a Pre-Trib rapture, don't be deceived

1. Is a resurrection of the believer seen in 1 Thess 4:15-17 below, 100% yes!

2. Does this resurrection take place on the (Last Day) as Jesus Christ taught below in John 6:39-40, 100% yes!

3. Is the (Last Day) the time of final judgement as Jesus Christ taught in John 12:48 below, 100% yes!

Many deny the truth of Gods words below, that are simple, clear, and very easy to understand.

(THE SECOND COMING, LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17KJV
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

(THE LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

(THE LAST DAY JUDGEMENT)

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[OrphanedRepublican]

If something has already occurred, then it is past. A major aspect of Bible prophecies is future events, and there is a whole raft of events to occur in the future.

At the present time Christendom (all denominations) are generally in a state of apostasy, which was predicted by Paul already. So the next event on God's calendar is the Resurrection/Rapture, which will then make way for the Antichrist to take total control. Nano-technology will be a weapon in his hands (as it is presently in the hands of his minions, the globalist elites). But the divine Restrainer (the Holy Spirit) must be "taken out of the way" (which also means that the Church will be taken out of the way). Only then can the whole world be under "strong delusion".

If you say that the churches are all in a state of apostasy (which I fully agree with) then isn't the abomination of desolation already there standing in the place where it ought not be?

 

[Truth7t7]

If you say that the churches are all in a state of apostasy (which I fully agree with) then isn't the abomination of desolation already there standing in the place where it ought not be?

No the Abomination of Desolation isn't a symbolic representation of the Church and Apostasy as you suggest

It will be a future event, when the individual human man (Little Horn/Man Of Sin/The Beast/The Antichrist) takes his seat and power in Jerusalem

(He Shall Make It Desolate)

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Nehemiah6]

If you say that the churches are all in a state of apostasy (which I fully agree with) then isn't the abomination of desolation already there standing in the place where it ought not be?

No. The abomination of desolation is the image of the Beast (Rev 13). And it must stand in the Holy Place of a future temple in Jerusalem (Mt 24:15). To God, all idols are abominations (because they stink in His nostrils), but since the Beast (the Antichrist) also claims to be God, this is an abomination which triggers the judgments of God as described unto the 7th seal. The lead to desolations on the earth.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Your claim of a pre-trib rapture is found no place in the scripture, and the resurrection takes place on the (Last Day)

It is found in at least a half-dozen places, and the Last Day resurrection is the resurrection unto damnation (the ones whos names are absent from the Book of Life). It has nothing to do with the resurrection of the saints.

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; [resurrected] and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Rev 20:12)

 

[Truth7t7]

It is found in at least a half-dozen places, and the Last Day resurrection is the resurrection unto damnation (the ones whos names are absent from the Book of Life). It has nothing to do with the resurrection of the saints.

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; [resurrected] and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Rev 20:12)

Your claim is false, the believer is resurrected on (The Last Day)

(THE LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

(THE LAST DAY JUDGEMENT)

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[posthuman]

Destiny through intrinsic qualities.

isn't this called 'discernment' ?