Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?

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Truth7t7 said:
The promise in Genesis 9 is that God wont flood the earth again, and the rainbow is a sign of this promise

Do I believe the word covenant should be promise, yes
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So He won't flood the earth again. That covenant stands, which means that as believers we are part of at least two covenants with God.

That's all :)
 
posthuman said:
affectionately known as 'Jack' ;)
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How many innocent people do you think you caused to be banned
by saying someone is Jack? When they were not Jack?
How many innocent people have been banned because
they were mistaken for this Jack person?
I know of several. Do you know how I know?

I am thinking this is not going to set well with the living God.
 
I am thinking that there shall be a punishment issued from heaven somewhere down the road
for all those who have partaken of this terrible evil.

Hey but what do I know?
I will watch and see.
 
0000000 said:
How many innocent people do you think you caused to be banned
by saying someone is Jack? When they were not Jack?
How many innocent people have been banned because
they were mistaken for this Jack person?
I know of several. Do you know how I know?

I am thinking this is not going to set well with the living God.
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What was your name before you changed it? real simple don't worry I don't think you are "Jack" I may be wrong
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0000000 said:
I am thinking that there shall be a punishment issued from heaven somewhere down the road
for all those who have partaken of this terrible evil.

Hey but what do I know?
I will watch and see.
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yes banning people is a very serious thing did you hear they even did to the POTUS? the Law broken thou shall not banned
 
Truth7t7 said:
It appears that you have two different peoples of God, a wife and a betrothed bride?
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Doesn't scripture say that same?

Deuteronomy 32:21
They have provoked Me to jealousy by [what] is not God; They have moved Me to anger by their foolish idols. But I will provoke them to jealousy by [those who are] not a nation; I will move them to anger by a foolish nation.

Romans 10:19
But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says: [" I will provoke you to jealousy by] [those who are] [not a nation,] [I will move you to anger by a] [foolish nation."]


How does He make her jealous without a second people? Who is made jealous if there is no more Israel?
 
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posthuman said:
But He did.
Philippians 2:3 for example.
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God did not tell me to follow Philippians

He told me this....

The anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you,
and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things,
and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God,
and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying,
Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest.

Whose soever sins ye remit,
they are remitted unto them;
and whose soever sins ye retain,
they are retained.

WAS HE LYING TO ME?
 
0000000 said:
How many innocent people do you think you caused to be banned
by saying someone is Jack? When they were not Jack?
How many innocent people have been banned because
they were mistaken for this Jack person?
I know of several. Do you know how I know?

I am thinking this is not going to set well with the living God.
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No one was ever banned for being affectionately called 'jack'

You know who you are and why you're really here. We're not as stupid as you suppose.

Come drink of the waters
 
0000000 said:
God did not tell me to follow Philippians

He told me this....

The anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you,
and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things,
and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God,
and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying,
Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest.

Whose soever sins ye remit,
they are remitted unto them;
and whose soever sins ye retain,
they are retained.

WAS HE LYING TO ME?
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How does the lame, blind, leprous, destitute beggar in the gutter wind up with a luxurious tailored wedding garment in the twinkling of an eye?

Do you know?
 
iamsoandso said:
The nation of Israel that we as Christians see coming(Revelation and other books), will have the Lord Jesus as it's king and ruler over it and not a secular type prime minister,and it's laws will be religious in nature(a theocracy) and not a man made set of laws. Remember what was said on the first page about the man of sin rising up first and ruling and then(afterwards) the Lord comes and sets up the nation your thinking of,,,but first an imposter comes and many wonder after it and worship it's image. Look at it and compare it's laws and structure of government with the one in the Scriptures.
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Yeah I agree with this, let me rephrase my question. Do you believe the return of Israel to be a fulfilled prophecy?
 
Truth7t7 said:
The Church is the Israel of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

They Which Are The Children of The Flesh (Jews) These Are Not The Children Of God

Roman's 9:6-8KJV
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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The above person keeps spouting things but refuses to answer the points made. This by definition proves he has no answer. And why I refuse to play his game anymore
 
posthuman said:
How does the lame, blind, leprous, destitute beggar in the gutter wind up with a luxurious tailored wedding garment in the twinkling of an eye?

Do you know?
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I will give you the correct answer.
If the answer I give you is correct.
You give me one of your blessings,
one of my choosing.

Do I know?
How much do you want to find out
if I know?
 
posthuman said:
Was He not born a Jew?
Why was He born a Jew?
In order to forsake them?
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We know that Jesus got no genetic material from Joseph. If He got genetic material from Mary, then the answer would be "yes". If He didn't get genetic material from either Mary or Joseph, then the answer would be "no". I'm not the greatest Bible scholar. I don't know. If He did get genetic material from Mary, then I think Mary would have had to be very, very special indeed. Her genetics would have had to been able to produce a son without any defect at all so that Jesus could be the perfect sacrifice. So if Jesus was genetically a Jew, then maybe the Catholics are onto something about Mary. But if Mary was just a surrogate, then Jesus would have totally unique perfect genetics, and I'd guess the protestants are correct about Mary being of no real significance. I truly don't know. For real. But I do think that it is apparent that He was at least raised as a jew. And regardless of His genetics, I think it's safe to say that He was born OF the jews and thus fullfilled the prophesy to Abraham regarding how all people will be blessed through his seed.

I don't think God foresook the jews at all. I think they have fulfilled their purpose that God had for them. I think if jews want to go to heaven, they need to trust in Jesus, just like anyone else. I don't buy into this idea of two sets of rules - one for jews and one for everyone else.

Edit:
Sorry for the potential thread drift. That's not the intent. Just trying to answer the question as best I can.
 
surfer14 said:
If He got genetic material from Mary, then the answer would be "yes".
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i can help with that:

Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
(Galatians 4:1-4)
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i'm not much of a scholar either. but God kind of gave me a knack for visual & verbal memory -- i don't remember the numbers of the verses; i remember the words and search them. that kind of thing makes good grades in school easy, and education trains a person in how to recognize and find pertinent information, but all that doesn't necessarily reflect intelligence or wisdom -- i'm still a fool and an idiot. ;)
 
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