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Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?
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Ultra Orthodox Jews That Are Anti Zionism, that support Iran and the Arabs, That Deny Jesus Christ As Messiah, And Are In Bondage To The Law?
They In Themselves Are A Complete Mess, However They Do Appear To Hold Conservative Values, A Good Thing
That is incorrect. And we need to look well beyond modern Israel. The Bible is crystal clear that God has an ETERNAL plan and purpose for Israel on earth, apart from the Church. Indeed the Lord Jesus Christ promised His apostles that in the future they would sit on twelve thrones ruling the twelve tribes of Israel. I could quote scores of Scriptures to back that up, but all Christians should do their due diligence before making remarks as seen above.
Even the fact that the nation-state of Israel has survived 70 years of enmity, hatred, and attacks by Arabs and Muslim should give us pause. If God's hand had not been upon Israel, it would have been wiped out by now. And had the UN not intervened (conveniently) for a cease fire the day after Israel defeated all its enemies in the Six Day War, there would be no Palestine today. Israel would be in total control of that whole region. But because they backed off from total and complete victory, they are being harassed by terrorists today (with the help of Iran).
However, Israel and the Jews must go through "the time of Jacob's trouble" and only 1/3rd of worldwide Jewry will be saved after the Second Coming of Christ. And after that Israel will become the leading nation on earth, and Jerusalem will become the center of worldwide true worship. It is all there in the Bible.
Paul has warned believing Gentiles to not be high-minded about unbelieving Jews, since they have been judicially blinded by God for their rejection of Christ. While Christians should not directly involve themselves in the conflicts between Israel and its neighbors, they should also condemn the nonsense of boycotting Israel (as the Leftists seek to do). Therefore they must support government policies which seek to protect Israel from its hate-filled neighbors.
One of the very positive things about the Trump administration (as opposed to the Obama administration) was total and unequivocal support of Israel (which was under attack by just about every nation on earth in the UN, EU, etc). And Trump was the only one with the guts to declared Jerusalem as the capital of Israel (which is exactly the biblical position). Christians are to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
In contrast to Trump, Biden and his handlers (Obama, Rice, etc) are doing their utmost to encourage the enemies of Israel to destroy it. But Israel is showing Biden that he made a huge mistake in allying himself with evil Iran. From the Jerusalem Post:
Israel keeps up pressure on Hamas with non-stop bombings of Gaza
Some 2,000 rockets fired since fighting began on Monday.
Senate Republicans to Biden: End negotiation with Iran
Your claim made in bold red above is (Dual Covenant Theology) a "False Teaching" found within Dispensationalism
God has one covenant with man, the shed blood upon Calvary, and salvation through repentance and acceptance of this finished work of Jesus Christ (Period)
Aint it amazing how these folks cant let Israel have that ONE PERCENT? Plus lets not forget, there are ARAB political parties within Israel, IN the knesset. So this idea of an apartheid state is just ridicilous propaganda and 100% lies. With the way things are going Israel is gonna have a majority arab knesset soon lol, they are reproducing way faster than the jews. Also, the arabs are treated better in Israel than they are in their own countries. But hey, its hip to hate on Israel.
Yes, and the blinders are the false teachings of John N. Darby and Adulterer C.I. Scofield known as Dispensationalism, in Christian Zionism and Dual Covenant Theology
Ok. I kinda respect these guys.
But the irony at 4:13 is rich. "If you don't like it, go somewhere else." LOLOL! I can't believe he said that (actually I totally can). He's in England! How about acting like a guest instead of like you own the place? Imagine allowing someone to come visit your home, and they immediately sit on your sofa, kick their feet up on the coffee table, demand a sandwich, and start telling you how you should run your household? They should be living in the middle east, whether or not the state of Israel exists.
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eternally-gratefull
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The church is not Israel
the church was not promised land
the church was not told if they sin God will tear down it’s high places, make them slaves of foreigners, and scatter them all over the world
the church was never promised a remnant
and the church was not told when they repent, they will be restored to all that was promised to them.
remove your own blinders, before you tell others to remove theirs
Democratic divide over Israel on full display as Jewish state clashes with Hamas terrorists
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-divided-israel-hamas-biden-ocasio-cortez-ilhan-omar
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-divided-israel-hamas-biden-ocasio-cortez-ilhan-omar
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kaylagrl
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I haters are all over FB. The problem is like you say, propaganda. As soon as someone says Israel is an apartheid state, I know they know nothing about what the are talking about. I just had to gently chide my young cousin about it. She's very PC about everything. Very millennial. On top of that, so few know about the Holocaust. The news always slants against Israel. And as you said, people don't know that Arabs are treated better in Israel than in their own Hamas run country.
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kaylagrl
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Yes, but brother, that is where the blinders from Romans 11 come off. That's when the scales will be removed and the Jews will recognize they were betrayed and that Christ is/was their Messiah and they will mourn, the Bible says. This is where they will repent and be saved.
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kaylagrl
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Yes!! I'm on track. Yes we should support Israel, yes this still holds true. Israel lost use of the land because of sin, but they never lost the deed. God deeded it to them in an everlasting promise. He hasn't broken it. Yes, this is still relevant today!!
Thats the thing.
Nations are already testing biden.
....and laughing
We have become a toothless giant.
Very dangerous thing to put weak and feeble insane gutless and immoral freaks into office.
We need a miracle
God, help us your people. Save us from these devil democrats.
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kaylagrl
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The Church is the Israel of God, Children Of The Promised Seed
They Which Are The Children of The Flesh (Jews) These Are Not The Children Of God
Roman's 9:6-8KJV
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
So that entire grafting back in in romans is baloney?
God stepped outside his own purpose and now has cast away forever his wayward wife and covenant people?