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Salvation by fait alone not by work
It doesn't mean as long as you have faith keep killing and rob the bank you save
Faith have a fruit, and the fruit of faith is the same of the fruit of Holy Spirit. The fruit of Holy Spirit is loving work, not killing.
1 John 4:20
“If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
How can a man have a faith not have love?
It doesn't mean as long as you have faith keep killing and rob the bank you save
Faith have a fruit, and the fruit of faith is the same of the fruit of Holy Spirit. The fruit of Holy Spirit is loving work, not killing.
1 John 4:20
“If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
How can a man have a faith not have love?
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Tosh absolutely tosh.
Who on earth who has true faith will keep on killing and rob a bank?
Sin is sin and even though those who have genuine faith will sin, yet not want to.
You like others mention the big sins of commission yet neglect the small sins like lies and gossip.
Also reject the sins of omission. Yet it's still a sin.
Look up where Jesus rejected those who commits sins of omission.
Matthew 25:41-45
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
Who on earth who has true faith will keep on killing and rob a bank?
Sin is sin and even though those who have genuine faith will sin, yet not want to.
You like others mention the big sins of commission yet neglect the small sins like lies and gossip.
Also reject the sins of omission. Yet it's still a sin.
Look up where Jesus rejected those who commits sins of omission.
Matthew 25:41-45
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
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It seem, people in Matt 25 rejected because they don't have love.
Not help the hungry, poor indicate font have love.
In my country people love to help the rich, and proud to be a friend of rich.
It seem, real love is when we love and help the poor.
In Matt 25 Jesus also bless and respect people that help and love the poor, stranger etc.
Love stranger or not racism . According to Matt 25 racism also sin that make us to hell, a lot of time we not aware that racism is serious sin .
It seem there is serious sin that is no love and non serious sin.
Whe we have in Jesus, to the point to invite Jesus come to our heart, I believe it will produce the fruit of love
It may not perfect yet, the more we let Jesus led us the more love we produce.
I believe In Matt 25 Jesus reject people on the left, because they not produce love at all.
People with real faith may not perfect, but if we read Matt 25, real faith produce love.
For some people, it may accept the Lord, and die in the next second. I believe they save, they don't have a time to show love to other, but they have love, because as soon as Jesus in people heart, it produce love.
For some people love may don't mean feed the hungry, love is in the heart, it may undetected by human. But God know.
Matt 25 seem to say faith will produce love, not because salvation by helping the poor, but savation produce love
The formula not
Salvation > by faith and workbut
Faith > salvation + love
And if we have time love will produce helping the poor as said in Matt 25
Not help the hungry, poor indicate font have love.
In my country people love to help the rich, and proud to be a friend of rich.
It seem, real love is when we love and help the poor.
In Matt 25 Jesus also bless and respect people that help and love the poor, stranger etc.
Love stranger or not racism . According to Matt 25 racism also sin that make us to hell, a lot of time we not aware that racism is serious sin .
It seem there is serious sin that is no love and non serious sin.
Whe we have in Jesus, to the point to invite Jesus come to our heart, I believe it will produce the fruit of love
It may not perfect yet, the more we let Jesus led us the more love we produce.
I believe In Matt 25 Jesus reject people on the left, because they not produce love at all.
People with real faith may not perfect, but if we read Matt 25, real faith produce love.
For some people, it may accept the Lord, and die in the next second. I believe they save, they don't have a time to show love to other, but they have love, because as soon as Jesus in people heart, it produce love.
For some people love may don't mean feed the hungry, love is in the heart, it may undetected by human. But God know.
Matt 25 seem to say faith will produce love, not because salvation by helping the poor, but savation produce love
The formula not
Salvation > by faith and workbut
Faith > salvation + love
And if we have time love will produce helping the poor as said in Matt 25
It is not an easy proble here.
If you love God to the point invite Him into your heart, than I believe you save.
Yes I agree you can't have a faith in God but hate God.
And if you love God you will love other.
To me, more likely, faith produce salvation and love not
Love and faith produce salvation.
There is a verse say salvation by grace through faith, not by work.
But it doesn't mean no matter what you do, for ex hate God and hate other, as long as you believe Jesus you save.
Matt 25 tell that people that not help the poor not go to heaven or not save.
Is that mean salvation by helping the poor?
I dont think so.
Salvation by faith, but faith produce love.
More likely Matt 25 talking about correlation between salvation and work
The more you have faith, the more love you bear, because Jesus in you is a master of love.
If you love God to the point invite Him into your heart, than I believe you save.
Yes I agree you can't have a faith in God but hate God.
And if you love God you will love other.
To me, more likely, faith produce salvation and love not
Love and faith produce salvation.
There is a verse say salvation by grace through faith, not by work.
But it doesn't mean no matter what you do, for ex hate God and hate other, as long as you believe Jesus you save.
Matt 25 tell that people that not help the poor not go to heaven or not save.
Is that mean salvation by helping the poor?
I dont think so.
Salvation by faith, but faith produce love.
More likely Matt 25 talking about correlation between salvation and work
The more you have faith, the more love you bear, because Jesus in you is a master of love.
Faith alone is not enough, you must also be obedient to God. The entire New Testament talks about the consequences for an immoral life. You need faith and obedience to be saved.
The only time in the whole New Testament where “faith” and “alone” are used in the same sentence says “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” James 2:24
The only time in the whole New Testament where “faith” and “alone” are used in the same sentence says “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” James 2:24
Playing games with words is playing games.
James 2; 14 .....What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?.....
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
There are many more references.
If you are suggesting that we can do no works in our effort to be righteous then you are teaching ...new age religion bible interpretation.
A false teaching and a violation of Rev 22; 18,19, et al books.
Please study the KJV 1611 edition and see the truth vs your new age religion bible.
I believe obedience is part of faith, say I have a car, it's mean I have an engine, tire etc, because engine is a part of car.
In the same manner you can't have faith in God and hate God in the same time. have faith in God also love God, and love God mean obey to God and obey to God mean love other. You can't obey god and murder other or rob the bank.
If a man say love God and hate other, he is lie.
In the same manner you can't have faith in God and hate God in the same time. have faith in God also love God, and love God mean obey to God and obey to God mean love other. You can't obey god and murder other or rob the bank.
If a man say love God and hate other, he is lie.
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