The Invention of Homosexuality

[Hungry]

Lol we don't ignore history we see it for what it is, the decline of man due to selfworship until now look at the sick condition of society, mostly from these scientific breakthroughs. Yep humans have created a terrible mess of this world.

By scientific breakthroughs I mean seeing just how beautifully and wonderfully we are engineered. From how He created our DNA from amino acids to the programming of the mind, our Lord gives us continual reason to revere Him. Sadly yes, we have completely dropped the ball on Earthly stewardship.

 

[Hungry]

Actually it says
תְּ֝סֻכֵּ֗נִי tə-suk-kê-nî, You covered me.
basically it actually says God covered him in his mother's womb, and it is the idea of upholstery.
The whole verse says you formed my inner parts, and you covered them in the womb.
So what we take away is that God formed all the inner parts and the covering skin as well. Creating the whole person. The whole psalm in context is how well God knows him from begining to end.
Again you prove yourself to be an abomination, twisting the scripture in your willful ignorance, and go forward in your self worship assuming to know what you do not understand.

You think that makes more sense? The word also means weave, FYI. Regardless, the point fell on deaf ears. Where’s the love bro? If you knew me you wouldn’t accuse me of being an abomination. I have pointed only to Christ to worship. I know what I am saying might not be popular. Of course as soon as you suggest the Lord responds then obviously that means you’re either crazy or a false prophet. My conscience is clear. I know His voice.

 

[MoonCresta]

Ok

Agreed

Ok English Chick - we've seen pretty much eye to eye on every forum on which we've posted together.

Homosexuality is something I'm fuzzy on myself - their lifestyle and how it fits in with God's plan for humanity. I believe God condemns it. My own feeling is not phobic towards the subject, but homoNauseum.

I do have two gay friends - one is a Catholic christian and appears to be dedicated to his faith. I get along with both well. I've noted idiosyncracies in their youth and life that I hypothesize pushed them toward the other team. I do believe young girls are peer pressured into a gay lifestyle when they're young and that may have been what happened to you. I believe (just my opinion, mind you) that young men are pushed toward other men because there is a very real fear about the other gender.

It's not a subject I spend a lot of time thinking about, since it doesn't concern me at all. So why am I posting?? I haven't a clue!

 

[GiveThanks]

Homosexuality has been and remains to be a topic of strong opinion. One of the reasons many object to God being loving and merciful is, why would He judge people for being homosexual when they were born that way? Those who defend God’s character suggest homosexuality is a choice. That is the only way that they can justify it. However, it is clear that some dudes are just born feminine. They don’t act the same or think the same as those born masculine and vice versa for women. So, did He in fact create homosexuality? I asked Him. This is how He explained it to me.

All creation is balanced, or created to be balanced. When there is imbalance, the scales tip and something gets triggered to bring it back. Populations are controlled by food in general. There is natural thinning of the herds. Top predator populations are controlled by hormones. Alphas procreate. Females determine which suitors get to pass on their genes. When human populations increase too rapidly for an area the scales tip. First food shortages may cause the group to divide in search for greener pastures. Too many alphas may cause battles to force natural selection. When neither happens then stress and poor nutrition cause testosterone levels to drop in populations. This causes females to find less suitable men to pass on their genes, creating less birth to death ratio. Since humans glorify sex and celebrate it and allow it to define them, it becomes problematic. Rather than a dude following instincts and being celibate, he adopts the taught programming that all people will be unfulfilled if they don’t find the love of their life. God invented sex but He didn’t invent sexuality, how one defines their expression of hormonal urges. Sex is the procreative mechanism designed to perpetuate humanity so strong healthy populations survive while weak ones thin. It’s a mercy. It’s balance. When He sent Israel on military campaigns to destroy populations, it was to maintain balance. Who knows what might have happened if He didn’t? He does. Anyways, the point is this. Sexuality is psychological. It is how one formulates input, emotions and programming to compute a rationale regardless of logic. He did design a system that causes some men to be less manly and some women to be less feminine. It was man however that interpreted that input incorrectly. What?! Sex wasn’t designed to define us and make us whole? Nope. It’s not some sacred gift we give to another, making us one with them? Not exactly. Eliminate the programming from your thoughts, all of it. Allow He who designed us renew your mind. Don’t even listen to me. Listen to Him who told me.

From when did you start thinking this way? Did you have these beliefs all along? What happened why you have this view? Did you read a book that got you thinking this way or was it a voice that you heard?

 

[Hungry]

From when did you start thinking this way? Did you have these beliefs all along? What happened why you have this view? Did you read a book that got you thinking this way or was it a voice that you heard?

I didn’t hear a “voice”. I didn’t read a book. When I’m curious about something, I pray/meditate about it, then it’s just explained to me. It’s not a voice as much as a download. I assume it be the transforming of the mind. It kind of piggybacked on a bunch of other things that were downloaded earlier. Sometimes I just sit in silence for hours and ask Him to teach me what He wants to teach me. Then I just listen. So far not many people are hearing what I’m saying. I am being accused of promoting homosexuality or propagating a gay gene. That’s not accurate. Why do you ask?

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

You think that makes more sense? The word also means weave, FYI. Regardless, the point fell on deaf ears. Where’s the love bro? If you knew me you wouldn’t accuse me of being an abomination. I have pointed only to Christ to worship. I know what I am saying might not be popular. Of course as soon as you suggest the Lord responds then obviously that means you’re either crazy or a false prophet. My conscience is clear. I know His voice.

I have no love for false prophecy, false teaching, contradiction of scripture.
I have not prophecied or said that the Lord told me anything out side of scripture.
Of course your seared conscience doesn't bother you.
I don't have to know you I read your falseness in what you wrote. And your defenses of your statement. Your words are a dumpster fire.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

From when did you start thinking this way? Did you have these beliefs all along? What happened why you have this view? Did you read a book that got you thinking this way or was it a voice that you heard?

He claims God told him. Which makes him a false prophet.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Homosexuality is a sin bondage, just like any other sin bondage (many of which are sexual in nature; pornography, adulterous lusts are examples, there are other types too, like alcholoism, or other addictions).
The book of Romans is clear why God gave them over to it. (Nothing to do with population; God said be fruitful and multiply, and subdue the earth) (the earth is not over populated.)
There are Christians who struggle with this temptation we are compassionate to anyone who struggles with sin.
Our goal is to lead captives free.

 

[Hungry]

I have no love for false prophecy, false teaching, contradiction of scripture.
I have not prophecied or said that the Lord told me anything out side of scripture.
Of course your seared conscience doesn't bother you.
I don't have to know you I read your falseness in what you wrote. And your defenses of your statement. Your words are a dumpster fire.

Please explain what you think Romans 1 is stating and why you think I disagree. Are you stating God made people gay because they refused to honour Him? I would disagree with you on that because God doesn’t make people sin. Or, you are agreeing with me and people without fear of God and reverence to Him merely do what feels good and can easily be manipulated into sin. All I stated that was explained to me was that our testosterone levels are manipulated from environmental stimuli. When it gets too crowded and stressful and nutrition is poor people are born with less desire for the opposite sex. In a God fearing society this just means fewer babies get born. In the godless, oversexed society we live in that brainwashes people into thinking that to be without a partner and to live a life of abstinence is Hell, people are easily led astray. They do every abominable act in search of anything that gives them pleasure.

 

[GiveThanks]

I didn’t hear a “voice”. I didn’t read a book. When I’m curious about something, I pray/meditate about it, then it’s just explained to me. It’s not a voice as much as a download. I assume it be the transforming of the mind. It kind of piggybacked on a bunch of other things that were downloaded earlier. Sometimes I just sit in silence for hours and ask Him to teach me what He wants to teach me. Then I just listen. So far not many people are hearing what I’m saying. I am being accused of promoting homosexuality or propagating a gay gene. That’s not accurate. Why do you ask?

If you didnt hear a voice then what were you listening to, and how does this download of information take place? One minute you say you know his voice and he speaks to you, the next minute you say you didnt hear a voice. Your views arent biblical and even you must examine where they came from. The "he" that you referred to is not God.

 

[Hungry]

If you didnt hear a voice then what were you listening to, and how does this download of information take place? One minute you say you know his voice and he speaks to you, the next minute you say you didnt hear a voice. Your views arent biblical and even you must examine where they came from. The "he" that you referred to is not God.

So you think there is some audible voice we are supposed to hear? Thanks for the advice. Every time I examine what He teaches, it is always in line with scripture or explaining it more fully. I’m not sure what part isn’t Biblical; that when we ask we receive; He increases wisdom; He renews our minds; He has engineered us wonderfully; man takes what God has made for good and distorts it? I’m pretty sure when Christ said my sheep hear my voice sheep wasn’t literal so maybe just maybe neither was the term voice used literally.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Please explain what you think Romans 1 is stating and why you think I disagree. Are you stating God made people gay because they refused to honour Him? I would disagree with you on that because God doesn’t make people sin. Or, you are agreeing with me and people without fear of God and reverence to Him merely do what feels good and can easily be manipulated into sin. All I stated that was explained to me was that our testosterone levels are manipulated from environmental stimuli. When it gets too crowded and stressful and nutrition is poor people are born with less desire for the opposite sex. In a God fearing society this just means fewer babies get born. In the godless, oversexed society we live in that brainwashes people into thinking that to be without a partner and to live a life of abstinence is Hell, people are easily led astray. They do every abominable act in search of anything that gives them pleasure.

Giving over, to does not mean to make them do anything. It means removed restraints so they fulfill their own wickedness.
He didn't do it to them, they wanted sin so he pulled back from them. This allowed their imagination to create every evil abomination and lust. Not because over population, but because just as Romans says, they did not honour God. Instead they worshiped all the things listed in Romans. They chose idolatry and self worship and therefore God turned them over to their own abominations. Again not because of population.
Homosexuality was an abomination thousands of years ago when the population was far less than it is now. The Benjamites in judges 19 not a population issue, an issue of sinful men doing what jaded sinful men do.
You claim God told you a thing that according to scripture is not true. According to the record of human history is not true. More importantly and really the only thing that matters is that you claim God told you this. Which is not true. You down loaded it from the babel you are fed daily from babylon; the science you claim is so wonderful but has caused more human suffering than any other form of self worship, and your own imagination.

 

[Hungry]

Giving over, to does not mean to make them do anything. It means removed restraints so they fulfill their own wickedness.
He didn't do it to them, they wanted sin so he pulled back from them. This allowed their imagination to create every evil abomination and lust. Not because over population, but because just as Romans says, they did not honour God. Instead they worshiped all the things listed in Romans. They chose idolatry and self worship and therefore God turned them over to their own abominations. Again not because of population.
Homosexuality was an abomination thousands of years ago when the population was far less than it is now. The Benjamites in judges 19 not a population issue, an issue of sinful men doing what jaded sinful men do.
You claim God told you a thing that according to scripture is not true. According to the record of human history is not true. More importantly and really the only thing that matters is that you claim God told you this. Which is not true. You down loaded it from the babel you are fed daily from babylon; the science you claim is so wonderful but has caused more human suffering than any other form of self worship, and your own imagination.

So you think all atheists are homosexuals?

 

[Hungry]

Giving over, to does not mean to make them do anything. It means removed restraints so they fulfill their own wickedness.
He didn't do it to them, they wanted sin so he pulled back from them. This allowed their imagination to create every evil abomination and lust. Not because over population, but because just as Romans says, they did not honour God. Instead they worshiped all the things listed in Romans. They chose idolatry and self worship and therefore God turned them over to their own abominations. Again not because of population.
Homosexuality was an abomination thousands of years ago when the population was far less than it is now. The Benjamites in judges 19 not a population issue, an issue of sinful men doing what jaded sinful men do.
You claim God told you a thing that according to scripture is not true. According to the record of human history is not true. More importantly and really the only thing that matters is that you claim God told you this. Which is not true. You down loaded it from the babel you are fed daily from babylon; the science you claim is so wonderful but has caused more human suffering than any other form of self worship, and your own imagination.

...or those who honour God and worship Him should never be tempted or be effeminate?

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

So you think all atheists are homosexuals?

False dichotomy read the scripture

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

...or those who honour God and worship Him should never be tempted or be effeminate?

Another straw man read the scripture

 

[oldman]

The sad thing about threads like this is that younger believers (babes) will be influenced by incorrect teaching.

"I'm right! You're wrong."

Ignore box checked.

 

[kaylagrl]

The sad thing about threads like this is that younger believers (babes) will be influenced by incorrect teaching.

"I'm right! You're wrong."

Ignore box checked.

Only the Word is right. Follow that and there will be no issues.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

The sad thing about threads like this is that younger believers (babes) will be influenced by incorrect teaching.

"I'm right! You're wrong."

Ignore box checked.

That's why bad teaching and false prophets must be confronted.

 

[Hungry]

That's why bad teaching and false prophets must be confronted.

Ok so according to you no matter what I state I’m wrong because unless you agree I’m listening to demons. It’s been a slice. I will let you keep telling all of the people who aren’t born like you it’s a figment of their imagination. They only developed femininity because God decided to hand them over. God according to you isn’t an engineer, He’s a vindictive monster making people gay because they don’t worship Him. According to you that’s the Bible. Sad...just sad.