The Invention of Homosexuality

[Tararose]

It is satan who likes to control the population, not God Almighty.
God made the Earth for mankind, and children are a blessing from Him. Not an inconvenience.
He is not someone who fails to plan ahead for the needs of his creation.

Here are some basic maths facts for you that may help... as scripture clearly falls on deaf ears where this topic is concerned... and
using approximates to save you time and lots of numbers.

THE ENTIRE world human population = 8 billion,

The total land surface area of Earth = 58 million sq miles
Of this, 33% is desert and 24% is mountainous.

Subtracting this total of 57%, or 32 million sq miles
still leaves 25 million sq miles (which is 15.77 billion acres) of habitable land.

The average family in the UK lives in 18 sq meters. (I used this example at random as i live in the uk, and think its pretty reasonable)

2 600 000 sq meters = 1 sq mile
so there is 64 000 BILLION sq meters of indisputably INHABITABLE land on the earth. (as explained above)

64 000 Billion divided by 20 sq meters, (to be generous), would provide perfectly adequate living space for 3 200 BILLION people.

I hope that number sinks in.

AND THIS IS ASSUMING NO ONE LIVES IN FLATS, SKY RISE APARTMENT BLOCKS, ON MOUNTAINS, OR IN DESERTS, THAT DESERTS AREN'T NOW SUCCESSFULLY BEGINNING TO BE RESTORED AS VEGETATION PRODUCING LAND, AND THAT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD LIVE ALONE. (AND IGNORING THE FACT THE WORLD AVERAGE FOR FAMILY SIZE IS JUST UNDER 5 PEOPLE.)

EARTH HAS A CAPACITY TO ACOMMADATE AT LEAST 3200 BILLION individuals ... all LIVING AONE ... ARE YOU GETTING THIS?

Yet you are saying we can't see the science,
that the stars are really suns....
well look at the basic arithmetic and swallow your pride.

God has not told you that 8 billion is breaking the seams of the capacity of earth, or that He makes sure there are gay people because there is not enough room for more people.

And I am leaving it there because I refuse to play this game any longer. It is ungodly and it is bad bible, in fact it isn't bible at all.

F A L S E.

Don't tell us we don't have enough room on planet Earth! Don't tell us God needs some form of population control.

 

[Hungry]

Firstly, as unpleasant as it may be to discuss this, animals actually frequently engage in same sex mating acts. For example, I had 2 female ducks, no males present, and they would regularly act out "mating" one another to establish dominance... it is not an unusual occurance. It happens in many animal species. They live by instinct and impulse, that is it. Nothing like the way Humans were designed to live.

Secondly it is GOD ALMIGHTY who joins a man and woman together through marriage, in case you are not aware, there was no ceremony or certificate when He first did that. It was sex that created that union. It is sacred and it is spiritual as I have explained using scripture in my previous posts.

Man would like to be thought of as mere animals so that they are not hep responsible for acting on impulse rather than moral integrity and the word of God. Feel free to agree with the world, but I am very tired of reading this nonsense now. I have shown you the scriptures and yet you ignore them and persist in refusing to acknowledge man is made in the image of God, for is glory of God, as woman s the glory of man and a woman hair is her own glory. Mankind never was and still are not mere animals, however vile they may have become and however much they act like mere animals because of their corrupt and perverse natures.

2 Peter 2:12

New Living Translation
These false teachers are like unthinking animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed. They scoff at things they do not understand, and like animals, they will be destroyed.

English Standard Version
But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction,

Berean Study Bible
These men are like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be captured and destroyed. They blaspheme in matters they do not understand, and like such creatures, they too will be destroyed.

Berean Literal Bible
But these, like irrational animals, having been born as creatures of instinct for capture and destruction, blaspheming in what they are ignorant of, in their destruction also will be destroyed,

King James Bible
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

I’m pretty sure you are using that verse out of context. I’m fully committed to Christ. I fully support marriage and fidelity. You ignore at least 90% of Scripture to support your claim. Polygamy was completely acceptable. There were laws to permit having sex slaves. You can’t deny this. If it is sex that is sacred then the concubine would be just as legitimate as the wife. It is the marriage which protects the heirs of the wife that is sacred. You are so convinced I’m wrong about everything. I’m getting this out of the Bible. I don’t need to misquote anything. Man doesn’t behave instinctually. The animals respond to scents for procreation. They are all naked. It’s not some jungle orgy going on. Law was given because we are out of tune with what is natural as a society. The Christian is not animal and is not man. We are a new creation. The flesh has no mastery over us. All I said was in the Old Testament sex was not what it is today. Neither is marriage. The Bible didn’t change. What we are programmed by society is. Paul suggested to only marry one wife if you are having trouble controlling your urges. To be married to a spouse is to be divided with the Lord. It’s not a sin, but it’s a distraction. Believe what you want.

 

[Hungry]

It is satan who likes to control the population, not God Almighty.
God made the Earth for mankind, and children are a blessing from Him. Not an inconvenience.
He is not someone who fails to plan ahead for the needs of his creation.

Here are some basic maths facts for you that may help... as scripture clearly falls on deaf ears where this topic is concerned... and
using approximates to save you time and lots of numbers.

THE ENTIRE world human population = 8 billion,

The total land surface area of Earth = 58 million sq miles
Of this, 33% is desert and 24% is mountainous.

Subtracting this total of 57%, or 32 million sq miles
still leaves 25 million sq miles (which is 15.77 billion acres) of habitable land.

The average family in the UK lives in 18 sq meters. (I used this example at random as i live in the uk, and think its pretty reasonable)

2 600 000 sq meters = 1 sq mile
so there is 64 000 BILLION sq meters of indisputably INHABITABLE land on the earth. (as explained above)

64 000 Billion divided by 20 sq meters, (to be generous), would provide perfectly adequate living space for 3 200 BILLION people.

I hope that number sinks in.

AND THIS IS ASSUMING NO ONE LIVES IN FLATS, SKY RISE APARTMENT BLOCKS, ON MOUNTAINS, OR IN DESERTS, THAT DESERTS AREN'T NOW SUCCESSFULLY BEGINNING TO BE RESTORED AS VEGETATION PRODUCING LAND, AND THAT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD LIVE ALONE. (AND IGNORING THE FACT THE WORLD AVERAGE FOR FAMILY SIZE IS JUST UNDER 5 PEOPLE.)

EARTH HAS A CAPACITY TO ACOMMADATE AT LEAST 3200 BILLION individuals ... all LIVING AONE ... ARE YOU GETTING THIS?

Yet you are saying we can't see the science,
that the stars are really suns....
well look at the basic arithmetic and swallow your pride.

God has not told you that 8 billion is breaking the seams of the capacity of earth, or that He makes sure there are gay people because there is not enough room for more people.

And I am leaving it there because I refuse to play this game any longer. It is ungodly and it is bad bible, in fact it isn't bible at all.

F A L S E.

Don't tell us we don't have enough room on planet Earth! Don't tell us God needs some form of population control.

You speak too loudly to hear anyone but yourself. Your math is ridiculous. You should just invite all of the people in China and India to move to Russia. I never said the planet is too small. I stated when an area can’t support the population living there it becomes stressful. Stress is a testosterone killer. I’m not an idiot. I’m not a false prophet. I never even said I was a prophet. We can speak to the Lord and if you ask Him a question He will answer you...if you just shut up long enough to listen. I tested James. I prayed for wisdom continually fully believing. The scriptures opened up to me. Whether you accept all of them is up to you.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

What do people think about Psalms 51:5?

5 Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Do you think this could explain why it could be interpreted that some people are born gay? It's not because of genes but because of the original sin.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

The Bible does not say XY makes one a man. Do you think Moses or Jesus would consider someone with female parts to be a male because she did was sterile?

It sounds like you want these women to become Trans and have a sex change operation.

We can speak all day hypothetically, but it does not change the fact that God designed as evident in the DNA for males to be XY. It is natural as in the regular route of gender identity. God created the skills necessary to do science and left His creation available to study and learn more about the creator.

someone with female parts to be a male because she did was sterile

You are operating on a presumption that XY with disorders is not a male.

It sounds like you want these women to become Trans and have a sex change operation.

They are not women, as I keep saying. You are presuming it is a woman just because it was born with some female parts. It could also have the parts of a male too.

 

[Tararose]

You speak too loudly to hear anyone but yourself. Your math is ridiculous. You should just invite all of the people in China and India to move to Russia. I never said the planet is too small. I stated when an area can’t support the population living there it becomes stressful. Stress is a testosterone killer. I’m not an idiot. I’m not a false prophet. I never even said I was a prophet. We can speak to the Lord and if you ask Him a question He will answer you...if you just shut up long enough to listen. I tested James. I prayed for wisdom continually fully believing. The scriptures opened up to me. Whether you accept all of them is up to you.

For the record, I NEVER mentioned the words idiot or false prophet - other than in a scripture referring to men being like animals. Not asking why you brought it up as it doesn't really matter and is distracting from the main point. You can test James all you like but your initial premise is wrong. It is not the Lord.

I TOO ask the Lord for wisdom, it does not mean I am infallible nor can I assume that that everything I hear is of the Lord. However convinced I may be. You may well think that you cannot be wrong because you asked for wisdom, but that dismisses as dis-ingenuine, every believer who also asks the Lord for wisdom and disagrees with your premise. And that cannot be right.

Calling it a day on our interactions, I will leave you to it.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

What do people think about Psalms 51:5?

5 Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Do you think this could explain why it could be interpreted that some people are born gay? It's not because of genes but because of the original sin.

Born gay doesn't have roots in Christian theology but came about 30 to 40 years ago as LGBT activists started trying to promote the narrative that they are beyond the scope of controlling their actions due to being born gay. They also led away Christians to believe God must have made them that way or, as some Calvinist think, they're not of the chosen predestined folks, so they are destined to be hopeless sinners. The scientists kicked in high gear, hoping to find a gay gene but eventually failed. It came back to the environment as environmental factors can affect specific genes. You become what you eat type of imagery. You are primarily affected by what environment you grow up in. One common trend in lgbt is child abuse, including sexual abuse.

Sinners from birth don't necessarily point to a specific sin but the original sin. Through Adam, we were cursed. So this curse flows through all of us immediately at conception.

 

[Hungry]

For the record, I NEVER mentioned the words idiot or false prophet - other than in a scripture referring to men being like animals. Not asking why you brought it up as it doesn't really matter and is distracting from the main point. You can test James all you like but your initial premise is wrong. It is not the Lord.

I TOO ask the Lord for wisdom, it does not mean I am infallible nor can I assume that that everything I hear is of the Lord. However convinced I may be. You may well think that you cannot be wrong because you asked for wisdom, but that dismisses as dis-ingenuine, every believer who also asks the Lord for wisdom and disagrees with your premise. And that cannot be right.

Calling it a day on our interactions, I will leave you to it.

It’s not that I think I can’t be wrong. When the Lord explains things to me it leaves nothing unanswered. There is no gap in logic or blind faith. Just that you are so blind to even not see that the regulation of testosterone is controlled by outside environmental stimuli cripples your arguments. If I’m wrong, I hope you can logically demonstrate. Throwing down irrelevant verses of scripture does not prove anything except that you (meaning those who do this) don’t really understand scripture or can’t fathom my claim. Of course God is concerned with population control. That is the number one argument against His character. When people doubt there is an all loving merciful God that is what they point to. Why does He let innocent children starve to death? Why are people born crippled and to abusive parents and yes gay (I disagree but that’s what they ask)? Man has circumvented the checks and balances the Lord programmed into us. Instead of allowing starving populations to die as a mercy, we feed them and perpetuate the anguish. Again we create medicine (witchcraft according to scripture) that lengthens lives and perpetuates weakness and bad genetics. Also it alters genetics creating greater problems. We are far from God’s design as a society, even in the church. If we can’t even identify what His design is then how much more lost are we? Man has successfully accomplished being their own god.

 

[kaylagrl]

It’s not that I think I can’t be wrong. When the Lord explains things to me it leaves nothing unanswered. There is no gap in logic or blind faith. Just that you are so blind to even not see that the regulation of testosterone is controlled by outside environmental stimuli cripples your arguments. If I’m wrong, I hope you can logically demonstrate. Throwing down irrelevant verses of scripture does not prove anything except that you (meaning those who do this) don’t really understand scripture or can’t fathom my claim. Of course God is concerned with population control. That is the number one argument against His character. When people doubt there is an all loving merciful God that is what they point to. Why does He let innocent children starve to death? Why are people born crippled and to abusive parents and yes gay (I disagree but that’s what they ask)? Man has circumvented the checks and balances the Lord programmed into us. Instead of allowing starving populations to die as a mercy, we feed them and perpetuate the anguish. Again we create medicine (witchcraft according to scripture) that lengthens lives and perpetuates weakness and bad genetics. Also it alters genetics creating greater problems. We are far from God’s design as a society, even in the church. If we can’t even identify what His design is then how much more lost are we? Man has successfully accomplished being their own god.

Oh wow! Now God is allowing people to starve on purpose. You're getting worse and worse. Now you're agreeing with Darwins "Survival of the Fittest" dogma. So abortion is God's way of regulating the population. smh No, you're just utterly wrong. Totally against what the Bible teaches. And it wouldn't matter what proof anyone could show you, you're determined that God gave you knowledge He gave no one else. It's simply and utterly wrong. On every level, you're wrong.

 

[Hungry]

What do people think about Psalms 51:5?

5 Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Do you think this could explain why it could be interpreted that some people are born gay? It's not because of genes but because of the original sin.

Being born into sin is being born into society. Don’t think literal, think abstract. The tree of knowledge of good and evil (learning right from wrong). The fruit that knowing right from wrong produces, guilt. The only animals capable of “sin” are ones we train, like dogs. They are domesticated. That is why they do not live instinctually. They have the capacity for guilt. Sin/guilt separates us from God. Forgiveness restores us, the elimination of guilt. Society trains us teaching us right and wrong, giving us sin/guilt. I think Romans 9(?) explains it best when a Paul is stating he wouldn’t know what sin was apart from the law. Because he knows now he sins.

 

[Hungry]

Oh wow! Now God is allowing people to starve on purpose. You're getting worse and worse. Now you're agreeing with Darwins "Survival of the Fittest" dogma. So abortion is God's way of regulating the population. smh No, you're just utterly wrong. Totally against what the Bible teaches. And it wouldn't matter what proof anyone could show you, you're determined that God gave you knowledge He gave no one else. It's simply and utterly wrong. On every level, you're wrong.

You worship some god of your own design. Of course He lets them starve, otherwise they wouldn’t be starving. Do you think children will be judged as adults?

 

[kaylagrl]

You worship some god of your own design.

Ahhh, no. I follow the Word, you should try it.

Of course He lets them starve, otherwise they wouldn’t be starving. Do you think children will be judged as adults?

Let's provide some verses to back up this idea...

 

[Hungry]

Ahhh, no. I follow the Word, you should try it.


You don’t need a verse. Either He is capable or incapable, willing or unwilling. I believe He is capable so why is He unwilling?




Let's provide some verses to back up this idea...

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Ahhh, no. I follow the Word, you should try it.







Let's provide some verses to back up this idea...

What's the point. He has shown himself to be anathema. He don't care what the word of God says, he cares what the pagans, atheists, and hate filled mongrels teach. Because they have given themselves titles like doctor or prophesor.

 

[Hungry]

What's the point. He has shown himself to be anathema. He don't care what the word of God says, he cares what the pagans, atheists, and hate filled mongrels teach. Because they have given themselves titles like doctor or prophesor.

Yeah that’s clearly the answer. Since I believe the Bible is true and that the Holy Spirit teaches us through ways we can understand using modern day analogy I must be a heretic. This is why people hate “Christians”. Forget all logic, ignore all history save OT, throw out any scientific breakthrough. If David sings a song that God stitched him together in the womb, then there you have it, the infallible word. We are stitched together in the womb. Anyone who dares speak against it is listening to demons.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Yeah that’s clearly the answer. Since I believe the Bible is true and that the Holy Spirit teaches us through ways we can understand using modern day analogy I must be a heretic. This is why people hate “Christians”. Forget all logic, ignore all history save OT, throw out any scientific breakthrough. If David sings a song that God stitched him together in the womb, then there you have it, the infallible word. We are stitched together in the womb. Anyone who dares speak against it is listening to demons.

Contradicting the bible and redefining it's terms does not reflect believing the Bible.
People hate Christians because they hate Christ, it is a sinful state of the world, and he points out their sin. And yes to some extended we don't buy into their lies and justifications for their sinful way. And yes God does grow us in the womb, he puts together the man's seed and the woman's egg and then forms us. This is why abortion is murder. We are created in his image.
So yes you are indeed a heretic, a false prophet, a false teacher, and are teaching your rot here. Thank God none here accept your foul blather.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Yeah that’s clearly the answer. Since I believe the Bible is true and that the Holy Spirit teaches us through ways we can understand using modern day analogy I must be a heretic. This is why people hate “Christians”. Forget all logic, ignore all history save OT, throw out any scientific breakthrough. If David sings a song that God stitched him together in the womb, then there you have it, the infallible word. We are stitched together in the womb. Anyone who dares speak against it is listening to demons.

Lol we don't ignore history we see it for what it is, the decline of man due to selfworship until now look at the sick condition of society, mostly from these scientific breakthroughs. Yep humans have created a terrible mess of this world.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Scientific breakthroughs that cause the advanced parts of the world to fight wars in distant lands so we can have their natural resources, and these wars cause famine and human suffering of the worst kind to the people who already live in, what is by our standards, rough conditions. Science that brought industrialization, and destroyed the family farm and gave rise to industrial farming, and destroyed communities and now destroys the family unit. Yep we really need to look to them for answers.
The Amish who have rejected modernity are still going fine, but it has infiltrated their communities and is doing harm to them as well.

 

[Hungry]

Contradicting the bible and redefining it's terms does not reflect believing the Bible.
People hate Christians because they hate Christ, it is a sinful state of the world, and he points out their sin. And yes to some extended we don't buy into their lies and justifications for their sinful way. And yes God does grow us in the womb, he puts together the man's seed and the woman's egg and then forms us. This is why abortion is murder. We are created in his image.
So yes you are indeed a heretic, a false prophet, a false teacher, and are teaching your rot here. Thank God none here accept your foul blather.

By your own definition you are being heretical. It doesn’t state uniting the sperm and the egg. Clearly it states stitch. Are we created in a physical image or spiritual image?

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

By your own definition you are being heretical. It doesn’t state uniting the sperm and the egg. Clearly it states stitch. Are we created in a physical image or spiritual image?

Actually it says
תְּ֝סֻכֵּ֗נִי tə-suk-kê-nî, You covered me.
basically it actually says God covered him in his mother's womb, and it is the idea of upholstery.
The whole verse says you formed my inner parts, and you covered them in the womb.
So what we take away is that God formed all the inner parts and the covering skin as well. Creating the whole person. The whole psalm in context is how well God knows him from begining to end.
Again you prove yourself to be an abomination, twisting the scripture in your willful ignorance, and go forward in your self worship assuming to know what you do not understand.