Real pandemic vs fake pandemic

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EnglishChick

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It may be that the covid threat has been hyped up. I can accept that.

What I can't accept is that it's completely faked as some agenda for population control

Because if it is.then those behind it are v stupid because less than %1 of the population dying is not gonna make even a tiny dent in the population. So I don't believe that.

And for some countries the covid restrictions are actually lessening. Whereas in other countries not so much.

I am not trying to belittle the countries who are still suffering . But I don't think this "the sky is falling attitude is v helpful .

If this is the start of the NWO, yes that is scary but doesn't it mean Jesus is coming back to rescue us??!!

Why are so many Christians in fear for themselves? Believers go to heaven when they die or when Jesus comes. We have a glorious hope ahead.of us! This is a time of joy not fear!
 

GaryA

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If this is the start of the NWO, yes that is scary but doesn't it mean Jesus is coming back to rescue us??!!
Not 'physically'.

If you were taught 'pre-trib' rapture - you need to understand that it is not biblical.

Why are so many Christians in fear for themselves?
Many believers cannot accept that they may one day be beheaded for not worshipping the beast.
 

EnglishChick

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Not 'physically'.

If you were taught 'pre-trib' rapture - you need to understand that it is not biblical.


Many believers cannot accept that they may one day be beheaded for not worshipping the beast.
Oh I know about the beheading

I.can understand the fear

but we are going to be with Jesus whatever happens. I don't know when He comes. Whether before the tribulation not.

But we Will be with Jesus whatever happens. and we know that every day His coming is closer!

PErfect love casts out our fear..

He doesn't want us to have fear but perfect peace and assurance of our safety in Him
 

EnglishChick

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Not 'physically'.

If you were taught 'pre-trib' rapture - you need to understand that it is not biblical.


Many believers cannot accept that they may one day be beheaded for not worshipping the beast.

Also the tribulation hasn't started yet and there is so much room and gloom already! Surely we need to be fixing our eyes on the hope we have . Life in earth is uncertain but our future isn't

if we.are crumbling over.the small troubles we.are living through now how will we cope when the real tribulation starts? pEOple.are.acting as though the mark is already here.
 

GaryA

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Also the tribulation hasn't started yet and there is so much room and gloom already! Surely we need to be fixing our eyes on the hope we have . Life in earth is uncertain but our future isn't

if we.are crumbling over.the small troubles we.are living through now how will we cope when the real tribulation starts? pEOple.are.acting as though the mark is already here.
How do you know that it hasn't started yet?

What biblical indicator do you base it on?

Your question is a very valid one for every Christian to consider.

It seems particularly probable that we could be getting very close to the mark now...
 

gb9

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and this is why the vaccine passports are here.


this a a precursor to the actual mark...
 

Aidan1

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How do you know that it hasn't started yet?

What biblical indicator do you base it on?

Your question is a very valid one for every Christian to consider.

It seems particularly probable that we could be getting very close to the mark now...
Well, that we are still here, shows that it has not begun yet
 

Aidan1

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The Bible does not support that conclusion - why do you believe it?
Well, it depend on the way you interprete the scriptue. You find verses which support the rapture and that the church is not on earth while tribulation.
My expierience is, that it not fruitful to discuss about eschatologie issues.
I believe it, if I am wrong then I am wrong.
Doesnt matter. Many Christians till today are suffering and die because they belong to Jesus. Stephan was the first one. I know that Jesus is with us, till the end of the days. So with ore without rapture.
 

EnglishChick

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How do you know that it hasn't started yet?

What biblical indicator do you base it on?

Your question is a very valid one for every Christian to consider.

It seems particularly probable that we could be getting very close to the mark now...

Because before the tribulation starts there is a time of trouble in Israel known as Jacobs Trouble meaning out and out war between Israel and surrounding nations

The beast comes and sets up a new world order with a mark which means those who refuse it will be killed. This is still to come. Maybe very soon but it hasn't actually started. The technology is there in Sweden but it hasn't been rolled out as compulsory
 

EnglishChick

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Well, it depend on the way you interprete the scriptue. You find verses which support the rapture and that the church is not on earth while tribulation.
My expierience is, that it not fruitful to discuss about eschatologie issues.
I believe it, if I am wrong then I am wrong.
Doesnt matter. Many Christians till today are suffering and die because they belong to Jesus. Stephan was the first one. I know that Jesus is with us, till the end of the days. So with ore without rapture.

You are.right and we will drive ourselves insane trying to work out things which can only be revealed to us by God personally

Am bowing out now

Goodnight everyone and God bless
 

Aidan1

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You are.right and we will drive ourselves insane trying to work out things which can only be revealed to us by God personally

Am bowing out now

Goodnight everyone and God bless
Have a god night an be blessed too
 

GaryA

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Because before the tribulation starts there is a time of trouble in Israel known as Jacobs Trouble meaning out and out war between Israel and surrounding nations
Why do you believe that 'Jacob's Trouble' is pre-trib?
 
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Fake
Fake
Fake
All fake

It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he is being fooled
 
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Most people at least feel that something is wrong despite the medias fear campaign

I personally know no onw who has even had covid but everyone i know has been hurt by these BS lockdowns loosing jobs, homes and even young lives so screw this fakness and any dill trying to justify such BS
 

GaryA

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Well, it depend on the way you interprete the scriptue. You find verses which support the rapture and that the church is not on earth while tribulation.
I find verses to support rapture, but not pre-trib timing. I find verses that say church on earth during trib. I find verses that say we are in trib now.

My expierience is, that it not fruitful to discuss about eschatologie issues.
Sometimes - but seldom - I will agree.

Many Christians till today are suffering and die because they belong to Jesus.
I agree.
 

GaryA

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Why do you believe that 'Jacob's Trouble' is pre-trib?
My Bible Study has yielded the result that 'Jacob's Trouble' is Armageddon - which is post-Second-Coming-of-Christ - at/near the end of the Wrarh of God being "poured out" upon the earth.
 

Nehemiah6

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Most people at least feel that something is wrong despite the medias fear campaign
Here's your answer. The world has been massively hoaxed.

Scientific American Admits It: COVID Made Flu ‘Disappear’
https://principia-scientific.com/scientific-american-admits-it-covid-made-flu-disappear/

Since this is true, and CDC will not even be reporting flu statistics for 2020-21, it is proof positive that there was a conspiracy to used coronavirus against the populations of the world, so that bogus vaccines would be promoted to make billions for the conspirators.

And the micro-needles are designed to deposit nano-particles which can track the victims and track their vaccination histories. So if they can track vaccination histories, there is no barrier for them to track medical records, and personal histories. Which brings us to the Mark of the Beast.