Why did the Lord send us the law?
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Good question
To my eyes thr LAW according to Moses is unlike any other governing concept before
True fairness, letting slaves go for instance, healthy diet instructions, a city of refuge, etc
It is so interesting to see that in comparison to Gentile "laws"in of the time it is more clear, fair, and just
As if to say -this us how human society should be ( but can't)
It's interesting
To my eyes thr LAW according to Moses is unlike any other governing concept before
True fairness, letting slaves go for instance, healthy diet instructions, a city of refuge, etc
It is so interesting to see that in comparison to Gentile "laws"in of the time it is more clear, fair, and just
As if to say -this us how human society should be ( but can't)
It's interesting
You say the law is given to Israel, not to us, and that is ridiculous. The law is for mankind, God has never told gentiles they are excluded from His truths. It was from the beginning, part of our world that the Lord created.
The world was in existence for 2,000 years before the flood. Do you think mankind had no law all during this time, also?
The world was in existence for 2,000 years before the flood. Do you think mankind had no law all during this time, also?
That is not at all what I am saying but righteousness nor sanctification comes from obeying the law, neither do we "stay" saved by obeying the law. Nor shall we lose our salvation by transgressing the law.
Here's what Peter said when certain Jews tried to insist that the Gentiles obey Moses
"why are you putting God to the test by putting the yoke of the law upon the Gentiles? since neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear it." James wrote a letter to the Gentiles exonerating them from having to keep the law of Moses. Acts 15.
Here's what Peter said when certain Jews tried to insist that the Gentiles obey Moses
"why are you putting God to the test by putting the yoke of the law upon the Gentiles? since neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear it." James wrote a letter to the Gentiles exonerating them from having to keep the law of Moses. Acts 15.
As I look at it....He set them free after 400 years and as you read we find He meet all their needs yet they kept crying. So something changed when they got to the MTN 
All that God commands us we can do it! Then it changed. Christ fulfilled the law. Now its all about Christ.. grace so forth so on. A new commandment.. we love each other AS He has loved us.
The law was mans ability.. now its GODS ability. Read again everything that happen to Israel before they reached the MTN then read what happen after. As long as we keep fighting with our own strength.. He can't help. Only when we surrender do we then need a savior. He has not changed.. He always wanted to be number one. Always wanted to be their only king.
All that God commands us we can do it! Then it changed. Christ fulfilled the law. Now its all about Christ.. grace so forth so on. A new commandment.. we love each other AS He has loved us.The law was mans ability.. now its GODS ability. Read again everything that happen to Israel before they reached the MTN then read what happen after. As long as we keep fighting with our own strength.. He can't help. Only when we surrender do we then need a savior. He has not changed.. He always wanted to be number one. Always wanted to be their only king.
Of course, this is an eternal basic truth of the Lord., Only the Lord is Holy, we are not, and only the Lord can give forgiveness. There is absolutely no question about this truth.
The problem is the taunting that is given to people who are saved by faith, and do not want to be disobedient They want to obey the law, and I object to posters stating that anyone who wants to obey the law, who repent, are putting themselves under the law. They accuse of that if you want to obey you can not try for obedience for any reason except putting yourself under law for salvation. That is something that simply does not go with obeying because Christ saved, or with repenting of sin.
It can be compared with being accused of being atheist and believing your don't need Christ. I object to being accused of such based on my repentance of sin.
The problem is the taunting that is given to people who are saved by faith, and do not want to be disobedient They want to obey the law, and I object to posters stating that anyone who wants to obey the law, who repent, are putting themselves under the law. They accuse of that if you want to obey you can not try for obedience for any reason except putting yourself under law for salvation. That is something that simply does not go with obeying because Christ saved, or with repenting of sin.
It can be compared with being accused of being atheist and believing your don't need Christ. I object to being accused of such based on my repentance of sin.
It has ALWAYS been about Christ. For about 4,000 years it was the shadow of Christ, and now Christ fulfilled all that was told of that shadow. It was Christ who made that accurate shadow of Him.
If you will study scripture, using your concordance, you will find that it is God who gave grace. Salvation according to eternal law (old and new testament) has never happened through the word of mere men, it takes a holy God to give salvation. Moses and all the saints who slept were preserved in sleep and made alive in Christ.
If you will study scripture, using your concordance, you will find that it is God who gave grace. Salvation according to eternal law (old and new testament) has never happened through the word of mere men, it takes a holy God to give salvation. Moses and all the saints who slept were preserved in sleep and made alive in Christ.
What is your concept of how Christ fulfilled the law? Some say that Christ didn't fulfill it at all, He ended it making all that is said of the law in Psalm 119 cancelled by the lord, erasing that Psalm from scripture. Others say Christ fulfilled every word spoken of Him in the old testament.
I know there are some things that are complete and ended because the purpose of something is fulfilled. However, the purpose of the law is to guide us to Christ, for one thing. That purpose is still useful. A purpose of the law is to guide us away from sin, and to say we are so perfect we don't sin or need guidance would be very wrong.
God told us that He gave us the law because we all have sin. I don't think that God takes back His desire for us to repent of sin because we would be kidding ourselves if we say we don't have any. There is no verse that refutes this, but I don't think this is a reason not to give our will over to the Lord. If we do that, we must will not to sin.
If we say we give our will to Christ and will not to sin is NOT saying we are without sin.
I know there are some things that are complete and ended because the purpose of something is fulfilled. However, the purpose of the law is to guide us to Christ, for one thing. That purpose is still useful. A purpose of the law is to guide us away from sin, and to say we are so perfect we don't sin or need guidance would be very wrong.
God told us that He gave us the law because we all have sin. I don't think that God takes back His desire for us to repent of sin because we would be kidding ourselves if we say we don't have any. There is no verse that refutes this, but I don't think this is a reason not to give our will over to the Lord. If we do that, we must will not to sin.
If we say we give our will to Christ and will not to sin is NOT saying we are without sin.
When you put your faith in Christ's finished work on the cross, it is synonymous with repenting, as stated in this picture on the left hand side
Repentance means change of minds. You are repenting from using your own works to be reconciled with God and putting your faith in Christ's work on the cross instead.
Repentance means change of minds. You are repenting from using your own works to be reconciled with God and putting your faith in Christ's work on the cross instead.