Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??

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Truth7t7

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I am sorry my friend.....I do not accept that in any way. YOU may be uttering soem kind of noise and I do not mean to disrespect you but I do not know how else to describe what I see other than that word.

The Scriptures are clear that the Apostles spoke in tongues and when the last one died they ended.

IF YOU are doing it, then you are doing it because YOU are choosing to do it no matter what the Scriptures say. No one today can rightly claim to speak in tongues by God’s power today.

I believe that YOU would agree that Among those ‘speaking in tongues’ today are Pentecostals and Baptists, also Roman Catholics, Episcopalians, Methodists, Lutherans, and Presbyterians.

I think that you would also agree that Jesus said, “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth …” !

YOU said YOU speak in tongues and I am not asking you if you are Baptist or Pentecostal but I am asking you - who “speak in tongues”....... are YOU then suggesting that the Roman Catholics, who “speak in tongues” have been ‘guided into all the truth,’ by the Holy Spirit, as YOU as a Protestant have been????????

You see, you can not have it both ways. BY YOUR own words, since YOU speak in tongues and Roman Catholics speak in tongues then YOU BOTH have been guided into ALL TRUTH. That means YOU agree with the RCC teachings of Mary as the Co-Redeemer, The Immaculate Conception of Mary, The Assumption of Mary, Purgatory, the Rosary and about 30 more NON-BIBLICAL RCC false teachings.

Again...YOU can not have it both ways!

If modern-day “speaking in tongues” is truly, the same as the first century, and it is evidence, proof that a person has Holy Spirit; then, all of the above groups I mentioned would equally have to be the true path to God.

You probably had not considered that but now that YOU know......what is your opinion?????????
As stated, you follow the Baptist false teaching that the sign gifts died with the Apostles, (Wrong)

I have shared my testimony with the forum several times, and I dont beg for approval

All gifts of the Spirit are alive today, the Baptist have this one wrong

In Love
 

notuptome

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As stated, you follow the Baptist false teaching that the sign gifts died with the Apostles, (Wrong)

I have shared my testimony with the forum several times, and I dont beg for approval

All gifts of the Spirit are alive today, the Baptist have this one wrong

In Love
Show me where your testimony trumps the word of God. Your experience is greater than Gods word?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Truth7t7

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Show me where your testimony trumps the word of God. Your experience is greater than Gods word?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
The Lords last words to the Church, prior to his ascension to the right hand of God.

Signs that follow them that believe, and no this didn't cease with the Apostles as Baptist falsely teach.

Mark 16:17-20KJV
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
 

notuptome

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The Lords last words to the Church, prior to his ascension to the right hand of God.

Signs that follow them that believe, and no this didn't cease with the Apostles as Baptist falsely teach.

Mark 16:17-20KJV
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Drinking poison and playing with deadly serpents is not wise.

The new tongues speaks to the new creature in Christ. A regenerated tongue that declares the glory of God and the joy of knowing Christ as Savior. The signs which are for Jews is a testimony of Christ the Redeemer by grace and through faith.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Truth7t7

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Drinking poison and playing with deadly serpents is not wise.

The new tongues speaks to the new creature in Christ. A regenerated tongue that declares the glory of God and the joy of knowing Christ as Savior. The signs which are for Jews is a testimony of Christ the Redeemer by grace and through faith.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
The gift of speaking in (Unknown Tongues) is a sign to those who don't believe

As for poison and serpents, it's protection by chance of one being bitten or poisoned unaware, not intentional drinking of poison or snake handling, tempting the Lord God, as Pentecostal hillbillies do.

Paul being a prime example, with the viper bite at the camp fire unaware, no harm fell upon him

Enough Said, The Horse Is Dead :)

1 Corinthians 14:22 & 27-28KJV
22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

Romans 8:26-27KJV
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
 

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It all depends on what YOU mean by ...."women are to prophesy". If YOU mean by that that women can TEACH then yes that is Biblical.
The New Test. identifies to "PROPHESY" as giving FORTH the truth which is TO TEACH and does not mean to FORETELL anything.

Women can teach children, other women and even men when the authority of men are NOT UPSURPED or by that, a qualified man is NOT bypassed in favor of a woman.

If you are trying to say that women can PASTOR a church then you are wrong. That is exactly what the Bible does not say.
Hey :) were going with what the Bible says..ok wise. How were women treated in Christs/Pauls day? We can listen to I think its "One for Israel" and how Rabbis talked and think about women today, it was not nice at all. There are times in the word where we need to understand what was happening right then. Like there is no more sacrifice for sin. Now what was going on right then and to whom was the Holy Spirit by Paul talking to? Take it for just what is written.. holy Jesus.. were all in trouble.

What was going on was some Jewish people that were saved when they sinned would try to go back and offering something for that sin. He was telling them ...there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Christ can not die again. So with women back then they were not part of religious or political and many other things. Back then they were not that educated. Head on to Iran and see how it has not changed for thousands of years. GOD had no hand in that. So women can't preach yet God did call some as Prophets.

May I in love say lets watch how we speak on things about the sweet holy Spirit. Verses we can take for exactly what they say is "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

There is no if ands or buts about that. Its strange at what we choose to believe. We shall (will accompany) in the name of me.. cast out demons....we can stop right there. Are we/you doing this? What all demons that can't die all gone now? Those new tongues again will accompany those having to believe.

See another key word here "believe". If you doubt you have nothing to worry about you will never see these things. Don't take my word for it ..its written. So back to women preaching.. I am old enough to know this has been debated longer then I have been alive so nothing whatsoever is going to happen or change after this thread. Me? I will not get in His way. I not their God I have not been given any authority over them so I say nothing. Not me/man they have to please but the GREAT I AM!

I don't any more but I can break more verses down be it Hebrew Greek and then unlike hmm some few most give BOTH sides to this lol debate? I truly can see both sides here. In the end I have no say. Not once has He asked for my advice.. which HELLO GOD is very wise right? HAHA Praise GOD glory to JESUS for all those He calls...the few that answer that call.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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One more comment I'll add, regarding the thread title: strictly speaking, "women pastors" are not biblical; there aren't any women identified as pastors in the New Testament. However, the New Testament does not have any record of a male who was identified as a pastor either. ;)
What was Timothy?
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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The Lords last words to the Church, prior to his ascension to the right hand of God.

Signs that follow them that believe, and no this didn't cease with the Apostles as Baptist falsely teach.

Mark 16:17-20KJV
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Church with a big C is not biblical, at least as far as I can tell.

They shall speak with new tongues. Here is fulfillment.

As of September 2020 the full Bible has been translated into 704 languages, the New Testament has been translated into an additional 1,551 languages and Bible portions or stories into 1,160 other languages. Thus at least some portions of the Bible have been translated into 3,415 languages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations#:~:text=The Bible has been translated,stories into 1,160 other languages.
 

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Read Joel 2:17-18 with precision and you will see the actual context.

Yes the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh but the prophecy then restricts prophecy, dreams and visions to a very specific group. Additionally I Cor 13:8 teaches that along with tongues prophecy ends. This is the direct revelation of God given to the apostles to write down the word of God so we can have it today. If scripture is approached with a capricious and superficial attitude the genuine meaning remains hidden.

Of course if one endeavors to prophecy today and the prophecy fails as it will then those who support the practice must move to stone the prophet as a false prophet.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

reading Joel with precision? I prefer Context and confirmation which was provided by the Holy Spirit through Peter in Acts chapter two.

NO, 1corthinians 13:8 does not say " tongues have ceased or prophesying. You think that the 1cor 13:8-10 is speaking of the canonization of the bible. it is not. You cecessionist were wrong on that but too prideful to admit it.

everything else you said was and is unbiblical.
 

CS1

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Show me where your testimony trumps the word of God. Your experience is greater than Gods word?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Still waiting for you to show me where it says "Tongues have stopped in 1cor 13.
 

CS1

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Timothy was never called a "pastor" in Scripture, nor was any other man. Yet people complain stating that a woman was never a pastor in Scripture. It's a double standard.
Dino did he not do the work of one?
 

CS1

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Let's start with what the Bible does and does not specifically say.
come on Dino,

are you saying because the word Pastor was not said about a person in the Bible yet the work they did was of one from what we see in the New Testament account means they were not one? I guess there is no trinity then huh? The word doesn't say it.

I have you ever heard of the Pastoral epistles? who wrote them and to who were they written?
 

Dino246

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come on Dino,

are you saying because the word Pastor was not said about a person in the Bible yet the work they did was of one from what we see in the New Testament account means they were not one? I guess there is no trinity then huh? The word doesn't say it.
I'm not going to play Jordan Peterson to your Cathy Newman.
 

CS1

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I'm not going to play Jordan Peterson to your Cathy Newman.
how about the word of God to the question and stop being so condescending

with your pee wee Herman voice

"Let's start with what the Bible does and does not specifically say. "
 

Dino246

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how about the word of God to the question and stop being so condescending

with your pee wee Herman voice

"Let's start with what the Bible does and does not specifically say. "
Hypocrite.
 

Dino246

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Ok if you say so LOL. I guess that means you never heard of Pastoral epistles? I will take that as your final answer LOL.
I'm not interested in your ignorant assumptions either. When you decide to stop being a jackdonkey, we may continue the discussion.