Why do we get sick? Coronavirus?

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3angelsmsg

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Blik said:
You have a mind that is finely tuned to analyze and criticize, If your aim was to show a better way, instead of aiming to tear down, you would be a blessing to everyone. Perhaps this thought is behind your criticism?
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I like your thinking. The purpose for the thread is to get us to think rather than just accepting the status quo about disease and sickness as reported by the media and scientists and their recommendations. In order that we are not deceived ourselves. There must be a way to escape the deception. And my point was to better understand ourselves and the law of nature. Because laws of nature are normally fixed.
 
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Why do we get sick?
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You can a bit of a study Here on divine healing which also contains the causes of sickness...
 
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3angelsmsg

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Now for being in the health crisis for more than year. What are the conclusions, we can draw from the events that has transpired? Do masks still work? And if mask do work why do we have to social distance?
 
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3angelsmsg said:
Now for being in the health crisis for more than year. What are the conclusions, we can draw from the events that has transpired? Do masks still work? And if mask do work why do we have to social distance?
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Think in terms of "probabilities" when it comes to mask wearing and social distancing. These actions lower the probability of transmission.

If people refuse to wear them properly or still want to crowd around, obviously the probabilities do not get lower, but it is not the fault of these restrictions.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Because of sin these bodies of flesh will indeed die; sickness, pain, injury, weakness, hair going grey, eyes going dim, warts, moles, wrinkles, sagging bit, scars; are a daily reminder of this impending inevitable reality. However if we be in Christ, ( that is Jesus) though this body fall away we shall live, and he shall resurrect our bodies, made whole and perfect, so we shall be whole and perfect.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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As far as masks and all that nonsense goes, it fear mongering for those who are already dead in trespass and will not ever live. So don't come to me with your identity veiled and fear in your eyes. I will know you are doomed and I will morn for you as you yet breath.
And if God's will is that some virus mortify this walking corps, meh, that's his call.
 
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3angelsmsg said:
Now for being in the health crisis for more than year. What are the conclusions, we can draw from the events that has transpired? Do masks still work? And if mask do work why do we have to social distance?
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I think that what we can conclude is that we are doing something wrong or we would be able to create an immune system that would protect us. Our immune system if strong when we have a good diet and we are spiritually mature.

Our Standard American Diet (SAD) is made up of foods that have been changed from the way they were created. We need to someway find regular food. When creation happened, food was created to work with our bodies. Now all grains are changed, no meat is range fed, even our milk is changed. Fermentation was used to preserve food, now even yogurt is pasteurized so there are no natural cultures in it and sugar is added. Same with sauerkraut.

Our spiritual growth is fed by TV, not scripture. Even our ministers spend more time being taught by the media than being taught by scripture.

Those who give up that new car and fancy house and invest is real food instead, who get rid of their TV and feed their spirits with real spiritual food will not get sick.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Blik said:
I think that what we can conclude is that we are doing something wrong or we would be able to create an immune system that would protect us. Our immune system if strong when we have a good diet and we are spiritually mature.

Our Standard American Diet (SAD) is made up of foods that have been changed from the way they were created. We need to someway find regular food. When creation happened, food was created to work with our bodies. Now all grains are changed, no meat is range fed, even our milk is changed. Fermentation was used to preserve food, now even yogurt is pasteurized so there are no natural cultures in it and sugar is added. Same with sauerkraut.

Our spiritual growth is fed by TV, not scripture. Even our ministers spend more time being taught by the media than being taught by scripture.

Those who give up that new car and fancy house and invest is real food instead, who get rid of their TV and feed their spirits with real spiritual food will not get sick.
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Pure humanist Nonsense!
Christians have gotten sick in all eras, before tv, before cars, before processed foods, when scripture was the only reading.
Paul even told Timothy to drink wine for his frequent illness.
He even gave Timothy instructions on how to deal with other people when they get sick, by bringing them to the elders and anoint them with oil, lay hands on them and pray.
 
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Blik said:
I think that what we can conclude is that we are doing something wrong or we would be able to create an immune system that would protect us. Our immune system if strong when we have a good diet and we are spiritually mature.

Our Standard American Diet (SAD) is made up of foods that have been changed from the way they were created. We need to someway find regular food. When creation happened, food was created to work with our bodies. Now all grains are changed, no meat is range fed, even our milk is changed. Fermentation was used to preserve food, now even yogurt is pasteurized so there are no natural cultures in it and sugar is added. Same with sauerkraut.

Our spiritual growth is fed by TV, not scripture. Even our ministers spend more time being taught by the media than being taught by scripture.

Those who give up that new car and fancy house and invest is real food instead, who get rid of their TV and feed their spirits with real spiritual food will not get sick.
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You're immune system has zero to do with your spiritual position. There are many physically healthy spiritually dead people walking around.
 
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breno785au said:
You're immune system has zero to do with your spiritual position. There are many physically healthy spiritually dead people walking around.
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This post is about Coronavirus, not spiritual maturity. I do think that if God guided the world then man would not think it best to change the food God created. Almost all foods have been changed. Wheat and most grains have been processed and changed. Foods are homogenized. the foods given animals is not as God designed them to eat, and foods are changed so they are "instant" to cook. Each change of God's ways has affected our immune system until a virus has taken over our world.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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This post is about Coronavirus, not spiritual maturity. I do think that if God guided the world then man would not think it best to change the food God created. Almost all foods have been changed. Wheat and most grains have been processed and changed. Foods are homogenized. the foods given animals is not as God designed them to eat, and foods are changed so they are "instant" to cook. Each change of God's ways has affected our immune system until a virus has taken over our world.
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A virus hasn't taken over the world. Propaganda about a virus has.
 
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Did Adam have an immune system before the fall, before sin entered the world?
 
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3angelsmsg said:
In our world today and in the science world, even the christian view also. We have separated sin and sickness from each other. The cause for sickness is no longer as result of sin. We have narrowed it down to virus as the cause of sickness. Could this really be the truth? Do we believe scientists above the law of nature and the holy scriptures?

We have stopped to think through information for ourselves, we have come to point in our history where we do not prove things for ourselves any longer. We accept the word of another and run with it. We are daily bombarded with information. Do we know how trustworthy is the information and what measurement can we use to evaluate whether we could trust the information given us. How can we know if the information is truth or error?
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I trust science because it can directly studied observed and tested. Also you don’t have to take the word of people within the scientific community. You can look up these sciences on the web and see for yourself.
 
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Adam lived 930 years, what an immune system he must have had.
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No humans lived that long. In fact just 80 years ago the average human lifespan was 62. The Adam and Eve story is a myth. It’s a proven fact of genetics that no two of anything can breed a viable population. The Adam and Eve myth is not even originally from the Bible but the much older story of the Summerian Gilgamesh.
 
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No humans lived that long. In fact just 80 years ago the average human lifespan was 62. The Adam and Eve story is a myth. It’s a proven fact of genetics that no two of anything can breed a viable population. The Adam and Eve myth is not even originally from the Bible but the much older story of the Summerian Gilgamesh.
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Before the flood, it is believed that the oxygen level in the atmosphere is much greater than the 21% we have now.
 
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TammyGray

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Guojing said:
Before the flood, it is believed that the oxygen level in the atmosphere is much greater than the 21% we have now.
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There was no such biblical flood, that flood myth is also from the much older story of the Summerian Gilgamesh, all studied and factual earth science totally refutes it. Where did 572% water needed from such a flood come from and where did it go ? To cover the planet as in the biblical flood myth it would have had to rain down 3.824 feet of water over the entire surface of the earth 40 days and nights. That’s the output of a fire hose over every square foot of the planet an hour
 
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There was no such biblical flood, that flood myth is also from the much older story of the Summerian Gilgamesh, all studied and factual earth science totally refutes it. Where did 572% water needed from such a flood come from and where did it go ? To cover the planet as in the biblical flood myth it would have had to rain down 3.824 feet of water over the entire surface of the earth 40 days and nights. That’s the output of a fire hose over every square foot of the planet an hour
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TammyGray

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Such a massive amount of water would have added so much mass to the planet it would have displaced the earth from its orbital position around our star.
 
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