To all of you non flat earthers.

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kinda

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And, you have not seen me criticize or insult you in the slightest for your expression of it - correct?
As long as it's rational criticism and have a valid point, go for it. Deny it all you want, but at least give a reason. I want someone to prove it wrong, no one has even come close. People are just confused and don't even know where to begin with addressing it.

Do me a favor and prove concave hollow earth theory wrong, I proved your theory wrong, at least return the favor.
 

GaryA

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It's relatively easy to provide answers to your questions.

However, I will ask you one question first: How are your questions relevant to this thread topic?
Of course, it is not my intent to derail the thread. I just think it is "high time" that the "loud mouth" Ball Earth folks answer my questions for a change...
 

Aidan1

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I am asking for a Ball Earth explanation to my question.

And, I am presently inclined to ignore all of the negative remarks until and unless someone can give me a good sound explanation to my question.

If you are not interested in discussing the thread topic, why are you even in the thread???
This is a nice way to avoid giving answers. In my eyes you are the one who should give answers. But because you cant, you through the ball to the others. Thats why it makes no sense to discuss with you.
 

GaryA

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..., and you have ignored them indefinitely.
I don't really mean to ignore you. I hadn't given you any replies because I hadn't decided how I wanted to reply yet.

You are not by any means at the center of what my most recent posts are about. You "sorta happened along" and posted your views "at a bad time" relative to what is going on with me.

Because of that, I may try to give you a limited response.

I will think about it...

I have written many many many posts - trying to discuss and explain the Flat Earth model without argument or debate.

I am sick-and-tired of being "trashed" for having made such an effort.

If no one really wants to have any respectable discussion about Flat Earth - okay - [that is] fine - let us discuss Ball Earth instead.

I have some questions.

If nearly everyone on earth is so absolutely certain that modern science never lies and "has it all figured out" - then - "everyone, their mother, and their dog" should be able to give a good, solid, scientific answer to any question I might ask on the topic.

So - it is time for me to ask some questions and others to give some answers. And, if no good, solid, scientific answers are forthcoming - then - a-whole-lotta-people have a-whole-lotta-faith in a-whole-lotta-[something] that is not real science.
 

GaryA

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I see flat earthers reasoning as fantasty and people need an escape from reality.
I am quite sure that an honest world-wide poll would reveal that the absolute majority consider Hollow Earth to be a lot more far-fetched than Flat Earth.

Why won't someone question the convex (hollow) earth theory?
See answer above...
 

GaryA

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If this satisfies you for an answer, would like you to come up with an answer on why the sailboat goes out of sight, bottom first, in a flat earth model? Airline flights would be a huge one to over come as well with a flat earth.
There are plenty of flat earth videos out there that explain these things.
 

kinda

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There are plenty of flat earth videos out there that explain these things.

Alright Gary, if this is your response, any questions you have for now on, just go to your video site, and have your own discussion in your mind.

Do we have to say, please for you to post your amazing videos, that prove the flat earth to be correct?!?!

 

kinda

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This is a nice way to avoid giving answers. In my eyes you are the one who should give answers. But because you cant, you through the ball to the others. Thats why it makes no sense to discuss with you.
This like hide and seek.

I'm out, had enough of this garbage.
 

GaryA

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Me too!

Unless someone quotes one of my posts, or does a '@' reference on my name, you will most likely not see me in this thread again...?
 

Moses_Young

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Does anyone correct you if you say the sun rose or set?

Do you likewise endlessly correct others when they speak of such?

Because the language used to describe the apparent movement of the
sun is really talking about the motion of the earth in relation to the sun.


You better get busy, and start correcting everybody's idioms.
The sun rising and setting is an idiom. The sun and/or moon stopping is not. No need to correct idioms, especially ones that don't exist. :)
 

Moses_Young

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On a flat earth map, the East direction is counterclockwise, the West direction is clockwise.

The sun, moving "from East to West", is moving clockwise in a circular path.
Oops. Thanks. I must've been having a bad day! :)
 

Magenta

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The sun rising and setting is an idiom. The sun and/or moon stopping is not. No need to correct idioms, especially ones that don't exist. :)
You have no way of proving that... It is simply an assumption you make.
 

Moses_Young

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Be honest, is ISS an fake? Ore is flying this Station around the earth? How it comes that a plane which is flying from London east to reach india. And then in the same direction to the eastcost of USA and then in the same direction accross the country to the westcost
and from there to London? This is proofable. And not possible if the earth is flat.
All the Planet we see are in the sky are rund ore flat? It makes no sense that all Planet are rund like a Ball, except the earth.
Also you have to consider that not all scripture is literal to understand.
There's something there, alright. But I doubt it's a space station. How do you know how high it is, and how fast it is travelling? I don't have that kind of faith in an organisation that is guilty of lies and murder.
 

Moses_Young

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You have no way of proving that...
The sun and moon stopping occurred once in history. No idiom is invented for something that happens once. The sun rises and sets every day. Hence the idiom to describe it.
 

Magenta

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The sun and moon stopping occurred once in history. No idiom is invented for something that happens once. The sun rises and sets every day. Hence the idiom to describe it.
Non sequitur. Probably a whole host of other logical fallacies, also :oops:
 

Aidan1

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There's something there, alright. But I doubt it's a space station. How do you know how high it is, and how fast it is travelling? I don't have that kind of faith in an organisation that is guilty of lies and murder.
If you dont trust to an Organisation, that is guilty of ließ and Murder, then you cant trust any goverment ore there Opposition in this World.
For me it makes no sense to believe that enemies like russia, China, USA and Europa work together for to hide that spaceyourneys to the moon and into the Orbit are fake.
Also nobody of the flat earthers can tell me how this flat earth is looks like. Where are his ends? How is it possible to travel east and reaching the startplace from West?
 

GaryA

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Also nobody of the flat earthers can tell me how this flat earth is looks like. Where are his ends? How is it possible to travel east and reaching the startplace from West?
Have you tried to do an internet search on 'Flat Earth Map'???

(I have tried to add one to this post - but, alas, am not able to right now for some reason.)
 

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Well, have you some verses which proof that the earth is flat? I mean how is it possible that when you drive straith in one direction
( f.e. west) you will Artikel the place you startet again?
You have also to consider that not all biblical Text is literal to understand.
Accordin to scripture the earth is flat with 4 corners,

Revelation 20:7-8 “And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.”

Isaiah 11:12 “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”