Visualization in Prayer
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Do you not own a dictionary? To them who are evil, all things are evil.
Romans
14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in [his] brother's way.
14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that [there is] nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him [it is] unclean.
Romans
14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in [his] brother's way.
14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that [there is] nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him [it is] unclean.
The Bible never says to pray wearing trousers or polyester. Is it forbidden to do so?
I already gave an example, that the Bible commands rejoicing, which involves the emotions. Regarding visualization,
Matthew 23:37 says,
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
I already gave an example, that the Bible commands rejoicing, which involves the emotions. Regarding visualization,
Matthew 23:37 says,
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
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I laid out my caser well in a previous post.
Here is a web page on the issue. Some points are weaker than others.
https://www.cwgministries.org/blogs/bible_visualization_imagination
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You misuse scripture to make it wrong to correct someone engaged in mysticism, that passage is not about dangerous sinful idolatry. It's about food and drink and days of celebration, what we call legalism.
Abuse of scripture, and the position that it's wrong to issue correction, these are just evidence of how wrong you are.
Abuse of scripture, and the position that it's wrong to issue correction, these are just evidence of how wrong you are.
The OP is not out of order. Your vicious attacks and accusations are what is out of order here.
Revelation
12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Revelation
12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
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I immediately read at the top of the linked page..."Unlock the Meaning in all your Dreams...even the Crazy Ones"/ "Free Video Event ...Hearing God Through Your Dreams".
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Dream Your Way to Wisdom Complete Discounted Package
Rubbish!
Jeremiah 23:28-29 (KJV) The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
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Dream Your Way to Wisdom Complete Discounted Package
Rubbish!
Jeremiah 23:28-29 (KJV) The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
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That's a new agey version of it. Picturing something in your mind is also visualizing. Some people do that automatically. It is also normal to do this when reading certain passages, like about the temple.
I did not catch the part about the package they were selling, but God speaking through dreams is certainly a Biblical concept.
In Job 33 we read about how God warns men about their was in Dreams. In the last days old men will dream dreams.
I did not catch the part about the package they were selling, but God speaking through dreams is certainly a Biblical concept.
In Job 33 we read about how God warns men about their was in Dreams. In the last days old men will dream dreams.
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Dreams have no authority compared to God's Word. I don't trust hucksters trying to peddle their cheap wares about dreams visions, revivals, ponzi schemes, visualizations etc.
Again...
Jeremiah 23:28-29 (KJV) The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
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Colossians 2:18-19 (KJV) Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Again...
Jeremiah 23:28-29 (KJV) The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
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Colossians 2:18-19 (KJV) Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
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How absurd. Accusing others of your actions is called gaslighting, it's one of the psychological abuse characteristics.
I don't pretend to attempt to create images of God, much less pray to them.
So let's see what Jesus said when he taught his disciples to pray.
'Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” And he said to them, “When you pray, say: “Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.”
Luke 11:1-4 ESV
I don't see a directive to "imagine, or visualize" or any type of conjuring of "images'' . I see him direct them to "say" words .
It's almost as if praying is talking to God. Away for God to conform our thinking to his will via a conversation. not some kind of exercise of the imagination to create images and visualizations by which to sensualize ourselves.
I don't pretend to attempt to create images of God, much less pray to them.
So let's see what Jesus said when he taught his disciples to pray.
'Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” And he said to them, “When you pray, say: “Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.”
Luke 11:1-4 ESV
I don't see a directive to "imagine, or visualize" or any type of conjuring of "images'' . I see him direct them to "say" words .
It's almost as if praying is talking to God. Away for God to conform our thinking to his will via a conversation. not some kind of exercise of the imagination to create images and visualizations by which to sensualize ourselves.
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You should read the whole Bible. If you really believed it, you would believe the parts that show that God communicates through dreams.
There were false prophets in Jeremiah's time who told dreams from their own flesh.
Read Job 33 and Acts 2. Paul had a vision and so did Peter. He was not opposed to them. The issue is the source.
There were false prophets in Jeremiah's time who told dreams from their own flesh.
Read Job 33 and Acts 2. Paul had a vision and so did Peter. He was not opposed to them. The issue is the source.
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