Israeli spy, Jonathon Pollard, says American jews have dual loyalties and should leave the USA

[surfer14]

I found this article interesting. I think he's correct. I think he's being honest here. I can see why he's a hero in Israel. Anyway, here's the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty/

 

[Deuteronomy]

Hello @surfer14, if an American Jew feels that being loyal to Israel necessitates joining one of our national intelligence agencies and spying on America, than I agree with Jonathan Pollard too, they need to leave our shores and move to Israel immediately. That said, most American Jews do not believe that espionage is required to be loyal to Israel.

~Deut

 

[Adstar]

I found this article interesting. I think he's correct. I think he's being honest here. I can see why he's a hero in Israel. Anyway, here's the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty/

Well using the same thought process should Christians leave The USA because they have divided loyalty between the USA and the LORD Jesus Christ?

 

[surfer14]

Well using the same thought process should Christians leave The USA because they have divided loyalty between the USA and the LORD Jesus Christ?

Fair question.
Yes. If there was a nation specifically made as a Christian homeland, then yes we should go there. The USA basically started out as Christians leaving their European homelands and making a culturally Christian nation.

 

[GiveThanks]

Fair question.
Yes. If there was a nation specifically made as a Christian homeland, then yes we should go there.

A christian homeland for all denominations? Or only the Christians who believe the same as you do?

Can Mexican and Israeli Christians as well as Christians from every nation come there as well? Will they need a visa?

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

A christian homeland for all denominations? Or only the Christians who believe the same as you do?

Can Mexican and Israeli Christians as well as Christians from every nation come there as well? Will they need a visa?

They will need a visa to pay for the trip

 

[Nehemiah6]

Will they need a visa?

A vaccine passport will suffice. What an absolute farce.

What we see in America is that (a) there are very few politically conservative Jews, (b) the liberal Jews have been undermining America for decades, (c) billionaires are primarily Jewish, and they have also been undermining America for decades (morally, spiritually, politically, financially), (d) the Communist traitors in America in the past were primarily Jewish, (c) Hungarian Jew George Soros and American Jew Bill Gates are presently the greatest menace to all societies and free countries. The life ambition of Soros is the destruction of America, and he has largely succeeded.

There is a cabal of Jewish billionaires who are only loyal to Satan and bent on bringing the whole world under Satanic slavery and domination. They control the central banks, the media, the governments, and the educational systems. They are behind the Great Reset leading to the New World Order. The COVID tyranny has proved that the application of the Mark of the Beast will be a piece of cake. 99.9% of the world's population has gone along with this COVID hoax. And it is entirely possible that vaccinations may be used to administer the Mark.

 

[Reformed1689]

Well using the same thought process should Christians leave The USA because they have divided loyalty between the USA and the LORD Jesus Christ?

I think it would be better to subdue the land and take dominion over it, like God commanded us.

 

[kaylagrl]

I found this article interesting. I think he's correct. I think he's being honest here. I can see why he's a hero in Israel. Anyway, here's the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty/

And the re- gathering continues...

 

[surfer14]

A vaccine passport will suffice. What an absolute farce.

What we see in America is that (a) there are very few politically conservative Jews, (b) the liberal Jews have been undermining America for decades,

I've got a friend that's racially jewish. He has renounced judaism and become Christian. Perhaps the smartest person I've ever known. I asked him once his opinion on why jews vote for the left so predominantly. He said it's because jews associate anything on the right (including republicans) with Christianity. So it's really that they're voting against Christianity. I thought that was quite insightful.

(c) billionaires are primarily Jewish, and they have also been undermining America for decades (morally, spiritually, politically, financially), (d) the Communist traitors in America in the past were primarily Jewish, (c) Hungarian Jew George Soros and American Jew Bill Gates are presently the greatest menace to all societies and free countries. The life ambition of Soros is the destruction of America, and he has largely succeeded.

There is a cabal of Jewish billionaires who are only loyal to Satan and bent on bringing the whole world under Satanic slavery and domination. They control the central banks, the media, the governments, and the educational systems. They are behind the Great Reset leading to the New World Order. The COVID tyranny has proved that the application of the Mark of the Beast will be a piece of cake. 99.9% of the world's population has gone along with this COVID hoax. And it is entirely possible that vaccinations may be used to administer the Mark.

Let me ask you if you've considered this...
Paul warned repeatedly in the Bible to be wary of infiltrators to the faith. If there is a satanic cabal of very powerful people, wouldn't it make sense that they would try to infiltrate Christianity? I mean, if I was them, that's exactly what I would do. I do believe I can see evidence of such infiltration going back for centuries.





I

 

[Nehemiah6]

Let me ask you if you've considered this...
Paul warned repeatedly in the Bible to be wary of infiltrators to the faith. If there is a satanic cabal of very powerful people, wouldn't it make sense that they would try to infiltrate Christianity? I mean, if I was them, that's exactly what I would do. I do believe I can see evidence of such infiltration going back for centuries.

Since they ultimately control everything (governments, media, industries, etc.) they would not need to infiltrate Christianity. Take the COVID restrictions for example. They are already controlling the churches, and there is a rare church or pastor standing against COVID tyranny.

 

[iamsoandso]

I found this article interesting. I think he's correct. I think he's being honest here. I can see why he's a hero in Israel. Anyway, here's the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty/

What most are misunderstanding about Judaism is that the vast majority of Jews in other nations do not see the "state of Israel"(created by man) as "Israel". To them Israel will be set up when the Messiah comes and will be governed "by the Messiah" and it's laws will not be "secular" like the "other governments" but instead the Israel then will use the Torah as the law they follow. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-zionism-among-jews

So to them the "state of Israel" is a "forgery" set up by mankind, those who are Jew/Hebrew(race) and are Christian(by faith) see it as fulfillment of https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13.htm the earth saying "let us make an image of the beast that received the deadly wound"(ad70) and it then ascended from the pit in 1948 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17-8.htm

 

[TabinRivCA]

Whatever, God has chosen Israel and the Jews as His chosen people. Israel has been ordained by God and He will inhabit the New Jerusalem. Prophesy revolves around Israel and God loves us all who turn to Him.

 

[surfer14]

Since they ultimately control everything (governments, media, industries, etc.) they would not need to infiltrate Christianity. Take the COVID restrictions for example. They are already controlling the churches, and there is a rare church or pastor standing against COVID tyranny.

Hmmmm...try this on and tell me what you think.

Satan's primary goal is to capture as many souls possible. Christianity is perhaps THE biggest impediment to satan's goal. It doesn't matter if they control everything else, infiltrating Christianity would be satan's biggest coup since the fall. What if the nature of that infiltration was to create a heresy - a heresy not so big and obvious that we would all reject it, but instead something more subtle that would just make Christianity a lot less powerful and thus reduce its effectiveness in acting against satan's final solution for human souls? If God was seeing to it that this couldn't happen, then why would Paul have thought it necessary to warn us against it?

 

[Nehemiah6]

It doesn't matter if they control everything else, infiltrating Christianity would be satan's biggest coup since the fall.

Do you recall the parable of the Wheat and the Tares? Satan has been un to his mischief all along, even while the apostles were on earth. The letters to the seven churches give us a clear understanding.

 

[gb9]

What most are misunderstanding about Judaism is that the vast majority of Jews in other nations do not see the "state of Israel"(created by man) as "Israel". To them Israel will be set up when the Messiah comes and will be governed "by the Messiah" and it's laws will not be "secular" like the "other governments" but instead the Israel then will use the Torah as the law they follow. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-zionism-among-jews

So to them the "state of Israel" is a "forgery" set up by mankind, those who are Jew/Hebrew(race) and are Christian(by faith) see it as fulfillment of https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13.htm the earth saying "let us make an image of the beast that received the deadly wound"(ad70) and it then ascended from the pit in 1948 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17-8.htm

let's also not confuse the jewish people who live in Israel with the zionest regime that is in charge of their government .

they are oppressive, interfering, overreaching.


so, try to separate the people from the governmnet.

 

[DJZawada]

[QUOTE="So to them the "state of Israel" is a "forgery" set up by mankind, those who are Jew/Hebrew(race) and are Christian(by faith) see it as fulfillment of https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13.htm the earth saying "let us make an image of the beast that received the deadly wound"(ad70) and it then ascended from the pit in 1948 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17-8.htm[/QUOTE]

oh boy.

 

[Platosgal]

I found this article interesting. I think he's correct. I think he's being honest here. I can see why he's a hero in Israel. Anyway, here's the article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty/

I smell Antisemitism
And it stinks

 

[Reformed1689]

I smell Antisemitism
And it stinks

Revelation 2:9 “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

The bible is kind of anti-semitic by modern standards. Maybe you should put away buzz words and stick to the issue.

 

[Reformed1689]

I smell Antisemitism
And it stinks

I made an amazingly beautiful chart that should help explain a lot of concerns in this thread.