Not By Works

[Phoneman-777]

Many OSAS believers in Jesus do not want to sin all the time. I find comfort in the doctrine of eternal security. I trust in Jesus and his promise to not turn away those who come to him( John 6:37). It is His character and actions that prove that He can be trusted. I never see Jesus turn anyone away in the Gospels who desired something of him.

Of course they don't want to sin all the time...just some of the time. They want to abide in the Vine, yes, but occasionally want to break themselves off and go down to street and spend some time attached to Satan's Holly tree.

But, listen to God's will for us:
Deuteronomy 5:29 KJV "O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all My commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!"wh

The fact is, if we're going to be a saint in heaven, we must first be a saint on Earth. While the blood of Jesus provides mercy for our mistakes as we "grow in grace", deliberate, known, habitual sin will not be found among God's true people on Earth any more than it is found among them in heaven.

 

[Phoneman-777]

Nope

He is talking about people who claim because they said some prayer they are saved. And can live like the world.

James calls them licentious.

Your trying to put people who hold to eternal security with them. Your wrong.

Its time to get off your OSAS trip. Lets talk about eternal security based on faith in Christ.

You're eternal security is in a License to Sin and you need to examine why you need such a License, when Jesus has already promised you victory over sin if you will to have it.

 

[Phoneman-777]

Amen

Jude speaks of these people

4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness, and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Bible speaks of all kinds of evil. The presence of hypocrites in the church mean there aren't sincere, weak Christians who are deceived by false ideas like OSAS and blind to Power Jesus provides along with Pardon.

 

[Phoneman-777]

Your the one rewriting the bible my friend

The tax collector Got on his knees and cried out. And god saved him

He did not get on his knees and promise to do all these things.

You have to be saved BEFORE God will change you.

Again. Paul calls your gospel foolish. Trying to perfect your salvation in the flesh

Well, then please say "amen" to 1 John 5:3 KJV:

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"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments (plural) and His commandments (plural) are not grievous."​

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You Licensees don't realize that when you say, "We can't keep the law", you are actually saying, "His commandments are too grievous."

They say, "find something to do that you love and you'll never work a day for the rest of your life". So, why is serving Jesus so difficult to some that they must acquire a OSAS License to Sin? The problem and the answer have to do with the same thing: love for Jesus.

 

[Phoneman-777]

Nope

He is phony who calls himself man 777, tryng to act like a child of God but denying its power to change people. Who is angry at people like EG. Because they trust God who said he will complete his work. Will do it. And not might do it..

I say "amen" to the whole of Scripture, unlike the doctrine of OSAS

 

[Phoneman-777]

No matter how much you scream..I do not believe otherwise.

Trus faith will Produce true works.

Yes, and doesn't require a OSAS License to Sin, but those who want to obtain by dead faith that which can only be obtained by living faith - eternal life - require such a license, but they will never obtain that either.

 

[gb9]

have you ever heard this concept- the Bible is a mirror to look at your own reflection in, and work on the flaws you see in you.

it is not a window to look at others and point out their flaws.

read and apply accordingly.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You're eternal security is in a License to Sin and you need to examine why you need such a License, when Jesus has already promised you victory over sin if you will to have it.

Nope

You just hate that my security is in Christ. And I believe he will (not might) change people

Its ok. The pharisees hated Jesus too. So I am in good company

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I say "amen" to the whole of Scripture, unlike the doctrine of OSAS

yet you deny the power of God to changed people.

My bible says he who negan a good work WILL COMPLETE it.

You change it and say he meant to say MIGHT complete it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes, and doesn't require a OSAS License to Sin, but those who want to obtain by dead faith that which can only be obtained by living faith - eternal life - require such a license, but they will never obtain that either.

your have failed to make sense. Because your truth is being exposed.

Good day sir

 

[Phoneman-777]

have you ever heard this concept- the Bible is a mirror to look at your own reflection in, and work on the flaws you see in you.

it is not a window to look at others and point out their flaws.

read and apply accordingly.

Are you referring to the mirror James speaks of; the Law of Liberty?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

have you ever heard this concept- the Bible is a mirror to look at your own reflection in, and work on the flaws you see in you.

it is not a window to look at others and point out their flaws.

read and apply accordingly.

He pumps his chest. then denys it.

He hates those who trust in CHrist. While claiming he does. yet showing total lack of proof his faith is in Christ.

 

[Phoneman-777]

yet you deny the power of God to changed people.

My bible says he who negan a good work WILL COMPLETE it.

You change it and say he meant to say MIGHT complete it.

LOL I believe salvation changes us...OSAS denies that, claiming the only thing salvation causes to change is God's opinion of my iniquity that remains.

 

[Phoneman-777]

He pumps his chest. then denys it.

He hates those who trust in CHrist. While claiming he does. yet showing total lack of proof his faith is in Christ.

You mad bro because you found out the OSAS License to Sin you thought came out the Bible actually came out a gumball machine?

 

[Phoneman-777]

your have failed to make sense. Because your truth is being exposed.

Good day sir

"He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him."

 

[eternally-gratefull]

LOL I believe salvation changes us...OSAS denies that, claiming the only thing salvation causes to change is God's opinion of my iniquity that remains.

Nope. OSAS does not deny this man

Thanks for once agaon proving you have no idea of the doctrine you are fighting.

You have you view. You view is in error. because your root issue is false.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You mad bro because you found out the OSAS License to Sin you thought came out the Bible actually came out a gumball machine?

Nope

Your the one who has the license. You claim your sins do not stink, You just argue against these certain sins while denying your own

I own up all my sins man, every one, no matter how small. I take them to God.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him."

Yep..
I believe this..

He who sins has NEVER seen or known God

You see. You think one can be saved, Know god today, Then turn to sin, and no longer know God.

You make John out to be a liar

 

[VCO]

Well, then please say "amen" to 1 John 5:3 KJV:

​

"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments (plural) and His commandments (plural) are not grievous."​

​

You Licensees don't realize that when you say, "We can't keep the law", you are actually saying, "His commandments are too grievous."

They say, "find something to do that you love and you'll never work a day for the rest of your life". So, why is serving Jesus so difficult to some that they must acquire a OSAS License to Sin? The problem and the answer have to do with the same thing: love for Jesus.

Pure HOGWASH! You have NO IDEA what we TEACH. It is Pure AGAPE LOVE, the only Pure Motive, is why we serve GOD. Something I doubt that You know anything about.

Apparently, You only Know how to Hate.


Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

Romans 3:28 (GWT)
28 We conclude that a person has God's approval by faith, not by his own efforts.

1 John 3:14 (HCSB)
14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Pure HOGWASH! You have NO IDEA what we TEACH. It is Pure AGAPE LOVE, the only Pure Motive, is why we serve GOD. Something I doubt that You know anything about.

Apparently, You only Know how to Hate.


Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

Romans 3:28 (GWT)
28 We conclude that a person has God's approval by faith, not by his own efforts.

1 John 3:14 (HCSB)
14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death.

I think we have established quite clearly he has no idea what we believe.

I am done wasting my time with those who are unable to listen.