Yup, it has" two horns like a lamb and speaks like a dragon" - Rev 13:11 -
christians speaking out of their fleshly nature.
christians speaking out of their fleshly nature.
Keep an eye on post #10.Wow thanks. I have to refer back to this when I study.
That is what the pope would like everyone to think...Yes I understood the Pope to be the head of all the religions.
That is what the pope would like everyone to think...
But, it is not true - not even close.
the pope is just one of the many antichrists - I John 2:18
right, the Man of Lawlessness "that sitteth (Now) in the temple of God"While it is true that there are and will be many false Messiah's, there is one specific man who will be the antichrist. The first beast is the antichrist, while the false prophet will be the second beast, who will mostly likely be one of the future pope's. Scripture speaks of the beast/antichrist and the second beast/false prophet as two individual persons:
"But the beast was captured along with the false prophet, who on his behalf had performed signs deceiving those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. Both the beast and the false prophet were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur."
I think we're close too - I'm struggling to piece together what I do know. Revelations was always hard - although God gives the understanding. I was never in a good bible study that explained it. I used to listen to it but it never really opened up to where I could grasp it clearly.
Yes I understood the Pope to be the head of all the religions. So you think this is the last generation?
right, the Man of Lawlessness "that sitteth (Now) in the temple of God"
I admit that although I've studied Scripture for over 40 years that I still don't know Revelations well. That's all changing fast and I'm scrambling to learn it.
That said, I know enough that I can see the Beast system arising around us. I not only see it - I sense its evil. Has anyone else had this uneasy feeling? We are now in a Police State. Police have been militarized (are tanks and takers and war equipment necessary against the American people?) and every day we read of accounts of police badly abusing and killing innocent citizens. This was perhaps driven home more to me since I experienced it: police shot to death my neighbors unarmed grandson. I learned about how they protect their own. A judge threw the family's lawsuit out - most likely because he was white. Blacks do have an advantage because they stick together and there is an uproar if a black is abused or killed. It still goes on unabated however as I spoke with a young black man in the hospital who told me that he and his friends are constantly abused by police. Very nice young man. It made me sick.
Not only that but my brother was beat up and robbed by police and my friend's daughter was sexually assaulted by them. They are now a system of thuggery in some places. So we have a beast system built around us and if you haven't experienced it yet...you will. Matt Agorist at The Free Thought Project carries unbelievable stories of police abuse of citizens. I'd like to make a point here that >>>this is a sign of a Nazi-like regime where the citizens have no power against the beast system.
Next there is technocracy: everything you say and do is captured by the beast government to use against you later. Cameras record many of your activities, license-plate readers record your whereabouts, and the coming ID 2020 will control even more.
The idea is that the state - or beat system - can turn off your access to money if you don't comply with the beast.
Chuck Baldwin said this is going to be a difficult year ahead: 2021. We'll be facing the beast.
Perhaps someone else well-versed in the end times can explain where we are on the spectrum of end times. Are we in the tribulation right now?
@PennEd:Soooooooooo ----- Daniel's 70 weeks are really just weeks and not weeks-of-years?
Are you suggesting that "this unique period of time" - which many claim is Daniel's 70th week - is really just an actual 7-day week? Because scripture expresses it as a week? So we wouldn't declare that it was really some other span of time not equal to exactly one 7-day week?
The Great Tribulation period is really only seven 24-hour days long????
Have not forgotten. Been busy, tired, etc.Thanks, I would love to see an example of this. That is exactly what I had in mind with the word 'proof'. As in are there verifiable cases of this in the Scripture elsewhere.
Hey Gary. I’m pretty aware of your position on this. I disagree with quite a bit. I’m certainly not going to convince you and you aren’t going to convince me.@PennEd:
I wrote this because the same English translation(s) that use the words 'year', 'month', and 'day' also uses the word 'week' in a place where very few believe that it is actually [only] a week. So - why are you so sure that every place where the other words are used cannot [possibly] represent any other span of time other than what the base word itself means?
Pretty-much everybody believes that the "time, times, and half" phrases equate to (1 + 2 + 0.5) x [something].
If it is days/weeks/months/years, why doesn't scripture [just] say 3-and-one-half days/weeks/months/years?
"God has His reasons."
God does sometimes use terms other than the base word...
It is up to us to pay very close attention to the context and details of a passage to see what it will tell us.
Or 1260 centuries. Playing fast and loose with Scripture has resulted in a lot of nonsense. In fact the Hebrew text does not even allow such changes.I could just say the 1260 days is actually 1260 weeks.
I think you just started a new historicism movement potentially. We got long way to go stillOr 1260 centuries. Playing fast and loose with Scripture has resulted in a lot of nonsense. In fact the Hebrew text does not even allow such changes.
Hello saintrose!
Whether or not we are in the last generation is not even in question, as it is overwhelming obvious!
Besides all of the other indications, we have the information within Revelation regarding the mark of the beast, which will eventually be the only way of buying and selling (electronic crediting and debiting) and which comes about in the middle of that last seven years when that beast/antichrist proclaims himself to be God and begins to reign.
The seven years will be ushered in when, according to Daniel 9:27, he establishes a seven year covenant with Israel, making it possible to build their temple and once again to make sacrifices and offerings, which he causes to cease in the middle of the seven years and is also when he sets up that abomination within the temple. This is also when the Woman/Israel of Revelation 12, flees out into the wilderness where she will be cared for by God for 1260, which is the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period.
Now, I have said all that to say this: if the mark of the beast becomes the only way of buying and selling and which takes place in the middle of the seven years and the mark of the beast technology has already been revealed in this generation, then how close are to the Lord appearing to gather His church, since that event must take place prior to seven years. Watch the following secular videos on what is happening in regards to this mark of the beast technology. Always keep in mind the criteria for the mark of the beast which is that it will be located on the hand or the forehead and that without it, no one will be able to buy or sell.
The very fact that this technology has come about is no coincidence, but checks all of the boxes regarding the coming mark.
I Put A Payment Chip In My Hand To Replace My Wallet - Bing video
Why human microchipping is so popular in Sweden | ITV News - Bing video
You seem to be struggling with what the vast majority of centrist, moderate members of the geopoltical populous are struggling with. The issue really is where does one attribute the blame? Is it a fall from grace? Is it secularism? Is it tollerance? Is it populism? Is it Woke?
The spiritually guided believe it to be a fall from grace with an additional dose of secularism, tollerance and Woke. The non-spiritualists believe it to be just the human condition at work...the inevitability that those in need will vote into power those who promise us a better life regardless. The two sides rarely engage in meaningful debate and those who lied to gain power suffer nothing.
It shouldn't be forgotten that for thousands of years, religion has been politicised as a form of crowd control by those in power and that grip has loostened over that time. That seems to have left spritual humans to fear for their belief systems and non-spiritualist humans to be angered by the political system we've ended up with via those thousands of years.
Were 'End Times' truly upon us (as many have said through hundreds of generations, usually to retain or gain power) it might be less ambiguous than it is now. Covid, populism, liberalism, conservatism...they're all playing a roll in a changing world but does it mean 'End Times'? or is it an arc of a swinging pendulum?
For now we have not to worry about passports, the majority do not have one.I wish I had studied Revelations because now I'm in a crash course seeing what is happening. I am afraid of the microchips as I read about an inventor from Georgia who was chipped >>>without his consent by a government agent. He developed a cancerous tumor at the site and when doctors went in they took out the microchip.
But I'm trying to discern whether the mark is a microchip. They're coming out with vaccine passports to show you've been vaccinated and that sounds very close to the mark of the beast to me. People can't buy or sell...
Do others see this?
For now we have not to worry about passports, the majority do not have one.