Can a Christian Have a Devil?

[CS1]

I'm always on my high white horse in the heavenlies - I notice you did not address Romans 8:13.
Ignoring Romans 8:13 does not make it any less true.

right your a legend in your own mine lol. That is not white horse you are on now it is a Donkey more like a mule. and I did address it Rom 8:13

For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

and the context of 8:13 is not in that one verse Rom 8 context starts in chapter 6 and all thorough chapter 8.

Paul is saying as a Christian we are to consider ourselves dead to sin and a live in Christ. Yet nothing in the passages say there would not be a physical death of the body but before that day happens you need to be saved and die to the sinfully nature and made alive in Christ.

 

[HighPremise]

right your a legend in your own mine lol. That is not white horse you are on now it is a Donkey more like a mule. and I did address it Rom 8:13

For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

and the context of 8:13 is not in that one verse Rom 8 context starts in chapter 6 and all thorough chapter 8.

Paul is saying as a Christian we are to consider ourselves dead to sin and a live in Christ. Yet nothing in the passages say there would not be a physical death of the body but before that day happens you need to be saved and die to the sinfully nature and made alive in Christ.

Romans 8:13
For if you live according to the flesh you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Tell me, what is the difference between dying and living?

 

[crossnote]

You'd think not, yet they bow to the flesh and die all the time - Romans 8:13.
You're merely not clued-in on to what the Devil is. Most all are not - they hold on to superstitions, legends and folklore.

Rom 8:13 is not the Christian's predicament. Earlier we read...

Romans 8:9 (KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

In Rom 8:13 Paul is referring to a hypothetical 'IF'.

 

[CS1]

If the devil is 3rd dimensional entity, tell me where the snake is slithering about today -
"That Old Serpent who IS THE DEVIL AND SATAN" - Rev 12:9 and 20:2

FYI if you read REV the devil aka Satan is called the old serpent and red dragon why? because those names speak to the action they he did.

Satan = adversary
Devil = false accuser

Jesus called him a Murderer, comes but for to steal kill and destroy. WHere is the devil today you ask?

in the church with lying devil who try to lead people into deception and from the word of God. he is in the governments and working to cause lawlessness and rivaling and rebellions'. I'm shocked you do not know his workings they are clearly seen by those who discern.

 

[HighPremise]

FYI if you read REV the devil aka Satan is called the old serpent and red dragon why? because those names speak to the action they he did.

Satan = adversary
Devil = false accuser

Jesus called him a Murderer, comes but for to steal kill and destroy. WHere is the devil today you ask?

in the church with lying devil who try to lead people into deception and from the word of God. he is in the governments and working to cause lawlessness and rivaling and rebellions'. I'm shocked you do not know his workings they are clearly seen by those who discern.

On a scale from 1 to 10 how 'shocked' are you?
Yup, the devil is stealing killing and destroying christians every day - which is why they "perish" and do not reap the "Life of the Ages" - greek in John 3:16.

 

[CS1]

Romans 8:13
For if you live according to the flesh you will die;
but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Tell me, what is the difference between dying and living?

again rom 8:13 is not the full context you neeed to read the whole chapter in ver 12 and 14 which you comp[ltely do not look at yet you accuse other of doing so says:

12. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.


IF you are led by the Spirit you are an eternal son of God which means you have eternal life because God is eternal

Now in rom 8 starting at verse one you see even more

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

This is speaking of the eternal death which is condemnation

 

[CS1]

On a scale from 1 to 10 how 'shocked' are you?
Yup, the devil is stealing killing and destroying christians every day - which is why they "perish" and do not reap the "Life of the Ages" - greek in John 3:16.

First off every born again Christian is victorious in Christ period. Eph. 6 says this and nothing can separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

You are completely unbiblical in this point.

 

[HighPremise]

Rom 8:13 is not the Christian's predicament. Earlier we read...

Romans 8:9 (KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

In Rom 8:13 Paul is referring to a hypothetical 'IF'.

Unfortunately, the Spirit does not dwell in the Soul of most all christians, only by the spirit - so they die physically. No "being made whole spirit, SOUL AND BODY" (I Thess 5:23) for them.
They are not "clothed upon" but "found naked" -II cor 5: 3-4

 

[HighPremise]

again rom 8:13 is not the full context you neeed to read the whole chapter in ver 12 and 14 which you comp[ltely do not look at yet you accuse other of doing so says:

12. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. 13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.


IF you are led by the Spirit you are an eternal son of God which means you have eternal life because God is eternal

Now in rom 8 starting at verse one you see even more

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

This is speaking of the eternal death which is condemnation

Oh right, 'Eternal Death'- never seen or read that in the BIBLE. People just add it.
News flash for you - IF the wages of sin was ETERNAL DEATH, Jesus never paid the price for sin.
No brainer.

 

[HighPremise]

First off every born again Christian is victorious in Christ period. Eph. 6 says this and nothing can separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

You are completely unbiblical in this point.

God will always love you - but you choose to "live after the flesh, you will die".
Just like Galatians 6:8 "Liveafter the flesh and from the flesh reap corruption, live after the spirit and from the spirit reap the LIFE OF THE AGES"
Did Bill Graham perish or reap the LIFE OF THE AGES?

 

[NotmebutHim]

 

[CS1]

Oh right, 'Eternal Death'- never seen or read that in the BIBLE. People just add it.
News flash for you - IF the wages of sin was ETERNAL DEATH, Jesus never paid the price for sin.
No brainer.

then stop suggesting Christian don't have it

 

[CS1]

God will always love you - but you choose to "live after the flesh, you will die".
Just like Galatians 6:8 "Liveafter the flesh and from the flesh reap corruption, live after the spirit and from the spirit reap the LIFE OF THE AGES"
Did Bill Graham perish or reap the LIFE OF THE AGES?

that is true when we sin as Christians it is a choice. Yet we are told the Christian God is faithful and just to cleans us from our sin if we repent and ask HIM for forgiveness. And Billy Graham Body is Buried right now yet HE will be raised UP in the last day by the resurrected POWER of Christ. Billy Graham is with Jesus right now until Jesus call forth the body and it is glorified

 

[HighPremise]

that is true when we sin as Christians it is a choice. Yet we are told the Christian God is faithful and just to cleans us from our sin if we repent and ask HIM for forgiveness. And Billy Graham Body is Buried right now yet HE will be raised UP in the last day by the resurrected POWER of Christ. Billy Graham is with Jesus right now until Jesus call forth the body and it is glorified

You sound just like Martha talking about Lazarus -
Jesus said, " I am the resurrection and life" - John 11:25-26
Yup, Ol' Bill perished - he "lived after the flesh and died" - Romans 8:13.
Just so you can breathe, his "spirit returned to God who gave it" - Ecc 12:7

 

[HighPremise]

then stop suggesting Christian don't have it

I'm not suggesting anything, I'm emphatically saying, "live after the flesh and die" Romans 8:13.
See, salvation is "Spirit Soul AND BODY" - I Thess 5:23.
Those with Rapture Fever, never read the next chapter.

 

[CS1]

Yup, but Bill perished - he "lived after the flesh and died" - Romans 8:13.
Just so you can breathe, his "spirit returned to God who gave it" - Ecc 12:7

what is your point ? first you speak evil of all Christians in a half cocked rage

"the devil is stealing killing and destroying christians every day ".

 

[CS1]

I'm not suggesting anything, I'm emphatically saying, "live after the flesh and die" Romans 8:13.
See, salvation is "Spirit Soul AND BODY" - I Thess 5:23.
Those with Rapture Fever, never read the next chapter.

that is an opinion and it is wrong too.

 

[HighPremise]

that is an opinion and it is wrong too.

It's the WORD OF GOD in your face! -
No "Being Transformed by the Renewing of the Mind" for @CS1 - As is all those in the Wide Gate to Death with all the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing (Matthew 7:13-15).
How long have you been in your "covenant with death and hell"? - Isaiah 28:15

 

[Aidan1]

Jesus is the Resurrection -
Wrong again - you obviously are in cognitive dissonance concerning the obvious in Romans 8:13.
Here is another one - "He that keeps my sayings shall never see death" - John 8:51

Well, so who will resurract to eternal life?
But one thing I have to Note. Attacking people personell, tovstrenghten his own position is for me more a sign that somebody is fleshmindet instead of spiritmindet.

 

[Nehemiah6]

So, 'Can a christian have a devil? Yup, if they want to - live after the flesh.

That is false and unscriptural.