Is the Holy Spirit showing us God can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time (Omnipresent|Omniscient)?
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because brother all Living Spirit is of God. It cannot actually die it is eternal so what God is saying is Satan has created an eternal Hell for himself and God is trying to convince us not to follow him there .
all the torment is made for Satan and his angels who rebelled in heaven and tries to stop the messiah.
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
....And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
Matthew 25:41, 46 KJV
it’s not that Godnis wanting anyone to go there , it’s that mankind follows that evil knowledge in thier natire and ends up there because they are following the deceivers will . They are those who are called satans children who serve satans will they aren’t neutral they are enemies of Christ.
“Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
1 John 3:7-10 KJV
That’s really plain it’s a reflection and insight into this that we have talked earlier about what he did in Eden
“He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world;
the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil;
the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
Matthew 13:37-43 KJV
what the thing is is everyone in the lake of fire isn’t going to be there ignorantly , to end up there you have to be serving wickedness willfully , willfully rebelling against God. That’s different from making mistakes or being ignorant of things . Or even being deceived and not understanding what the truth is
I believe there are some very evil souls in this world through time that lives thier lives after the image of the devil and they will join him there .
Gid has truly been warning us from the beginning about what would happen if we obey sin . If we don’t eventually repent what he’s saying is true and the fear of God moves is to repentance
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
we’ve been warned clearly since day one of serving satans will and where that leads to his eternal home of torment .
And we’ve been told the truth about Christ and his eternal home and the glory of repenting and believing the gospel and following after his will and the rewards that are guaranteed in that
and we are free to choose which way to go we can feed in the forbidden and die . Because Satan has is convinced it won’t hurt us
or we can believe what God said and start feeding on all the fruit that is good for us and not on the forbidden deadly fruit like The lord said we are to do and live
it isn’t going to be the lord’s fault of someone’s lost , he has done it all to save us giving the suffering and death of Christ Jesus over for us who were dead in sin to give us a hope
the New Testament punishment is harsher because it’s about the everlasting soul and the blood of Gods son rather than a goat so we’re talking about being stoned to death in the flesh for the goats blood
but eternal damnation for the suffering and blood of Gods son
“Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
Hebrews 10:29-31
All man will be judged by the creator for all we have done we can come to God through Christ and be saved or alone and be lost. We can go to him believing christs judgements in the gospel or we can go there not having the law of liberty which is mercy for the merciful. In that all have sinned and require mercy
as always I remind you that I can only speak freely in my thinking and remind you that it’s nothing official just a person who studies scripture and thinks a lot about it , prays a lot about it talking with a khrrr person who does the same
all the torment is made for Satan and his angels who rebelled in heaven and tries to stop the messiah.
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
....And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
Matthew 25:41, 46 KJV
it’s not that Godnis wanting anyone to go there , it’s that mankind follows that evil knowledge in thier natire and ends up there because they are following the deceivers will . They are those who are called satans children who serve satans will they aren’t neutral they are enemies of Christ.
“Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
1 John 3:7-10 KJV
That’s really plain it’s a reflection and insight into this that we have talked earlier about what he did in Eden
“He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world;
the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil;
the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
Matthew 13:37-43 KJV
what the thing is is everyone in the lake of fire isn’t going to be there ignorantly , to end up there you have to be serving wickedness willfully , willfully rebelling against God. That’s different from making mistakes or being ignorant of things . Or even being deceived and not understanding what the truth is
I believe there are some very evil souls in this world through time that lives thier lives after the image of the devil and they will join him there .
Gid has truly been warning us from the beginning about what would happen if we obey sin . If we don’t eventually repent what he’s saying is true and the fear of God moves is to repentance
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
we’ve been warned clearly since day one of serving satans will and where that leads to his eternal home of torment .
And we’ve been told the truth about Christ and his eternal home and the glory of repenting and believing the gospel and following after his will and the rewards that are guaranteed in that
and we are free to choose which way to go we can feed in the forbidden and die . Because Satan has is convinced it won’t hurt us
or we can believe what God said and start feeding on all the fruit that is good for us and not on the forbidden deadly fruit like The lord said we are to do and live
it isn’t going to be the lord’s fault of someone’s lost , he has done it all to save us giving the suffering and death of Christ Jesus over for us who were dead in sin to give us a hope
the New Testament punishment is harsher because it’s about the everlasting soul and the blood of Gods son rather than a goat so we’re talking about being stoned to death in the flesh for the goats blood
but eternal damnation for the suffering and blood of Gods son
“Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
Hebrews 10:29-31
All man will be judged by the creator for all we have done we can come to God through Christ and be saved or alone and be lost. We can go to him believing christs judgements in the gospel or we can go there not having the law of liberty which is mercy for the merciful. In that all have sinned and require mercy
as always I remind you that I can only speak freely in my thinking and remind you that it’s nothing official just a person who studies scripture and thinks a lot about it , prays a lot about it talking with a khrrr person who does the same
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Okay, I understand why it is infinite now, yikes.
I'm scared, in that, in my attempting to wake people, am I opening them up to the chance of hell?
Are they going to be shown every time someone tried to tell them about Jesus before going in? I think I said this to some unbelievers before. I hope it doesn't come off as pride. I'm also hoping it made the situation more real for them.
So we are living out the Garden of Eden right now ..wow! The forbidden fruit is still satan's word/perception.
I'm scared, in that, in my attempting to wake people, am I opening them up to the chance of hell?
Are they going to be shown every time someone tried to tell them about Jesus before going in? I think I said this to some unbelievers before. I hope it doesn't come off as pride. I'm also hoping it made the situation more real for them.
So we are living out the Garden of Eden right now ..wow! The forbidden fruit is still satan's word/perception.
I can’t guess about how Jesus will judge each one I only know what he said and what he said was that the mercy we treat others with is the measure we will be given , if we don’t go around condemning sinners he said he won’t condemn us , if we don’t judge others unworthy he won’t judge us unworthy ....
one thing Jesus never did brother is condemn anyone you can look thoroughly and he always forgave those who turned to him .
He warned sternly the religious self righteous types , but the sinners who recognized thoer sins and his Love he was always forgiving and healing them , lifting them up who could not stand . While the “ righteous “ stood at a distance and mocked him for associating with sinners , he was forgiving them and teaching them life and spitting word out to the self righteous keepers of the law
those who had judged the “ sinners “ unworthy were being scolded as he ate and associated with those they had cast aside calling them unclean
the only one who can ever judge another living soul is the one who suffered , bled , cried , was spit on and mocked and out to shame for that living soul he laid the price for all thier sins so he is the one who gets to decide about thier souls eternal home that’s all I know for anyone’s judgement that Christ is the judge
“Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Let us not therefore judge one another any more:
but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
Romans 14:4, 8-13 KJV
I fear greatly brother even discussing a others salvation only to the point to at Christ is who is able to save them . This is not what you are saying I know but that subject for me is not something I approach. Only what Jesus said about salvation and how the believer and he himself work it out
my hope is that everyone is saved but my hope is not what will be , but rather his determinate counsel and foreknowledge will be
like the flood Noah was foretold so we are foretold of the coming fire and Christ is sure willing to save us so I hope that I will never be one who makes the gospel hard for another person to enter into but rather my position is being all your flaws and sins to the lord and get real with him and he’s gonna save us from all that terrible business and then we can begin to share it with others so they can decide what they want in the end
I would t think bro that Gods word is ever not right to share it’s true it makes people aware but it also calls Gods children to repentance so they don’t die from lack of knowledge
one thing Jesus never did brother is condemn anyone you can look thoroughly and he always forgave those who turned to him .
He warned sternly the religious self righteous types , but the sinners who recognized thoer sins and his Love he was always forgiving and healing them , lifting them up who could not stand . While the “ righteous “ stood at a distance and mocked him for associating with sinners , he was forgiving them and teaching them life and spitting word out to the self righteous keepers of the law
those who had judged the “ sinners “ unworthy were being scolded as he ate and associated with those they had cast aside calling them unclean
the only one who can ever judge another living soul is the one who suffered , bled , cried , was spit on and mocked and out to shame for that living soul he laid the price for all thier sins so he is the one who gets to decide about thier souls eternal home that’s all I know for anyone’s judgement that Christ is the judge
“Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Let us not therefore judge one another any more:
but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
Romans 14:4, 8-13 KJV
I fear greatly brother even discussing a others salvation only to the point to at Christ is who is able to save them . This is not what you are saying I know but that subject for me is not something I approach. Only what Jesus said about salvation and how the believer and he himself work it out
my hope is that everyone is saved but my hope is not what will be , but rather his determinate counsel and foreknowledge will be
like the flood Noah was foretold so we are foretold of the coming fire and Christ is sure willing to save us so I hope that I will never be one who makes the gospel hard for another person to enter into but rather my position is being all your flaws and sins to the lord and get real with him and he’s gonna save us from all that terrible business and then we can begin to share it with others so they can decide what they want in the end
I would t think bro that Gods word is ever not right to share it’s true it makes people aware but it also calls Gods children to repentance so they don’t die from lack of knowledge
no like all things I believe there was a fruit many fruits they were given for food brother remember ? You may eat of any tree in the garden tree of life included
there is always a physical and spiritual aspect to all thkngs becaise creation is both. The physical forbidden fruit was a representation of the knowledge of evil they heard from Satan
see what I’m saying ? It was a real fruit tree , but the knowledge that corrupted them was to disbelieve God and believe satans word about the fruit
like everything the action of eating the forbidden fruit , came from the deception and temptation on thier heart and mind . The action was a result of what Satan told them and they accepted it ....so came into Mans heart the knowledge of evil
eating the fruit was irrelevant it was disbelieving Gods word about the fruit and believing the knowledge of evil that led them To transgress
all things have a physical and spiritual aspect is my opinion
there is always a physical and spiritual aspect to all thkngs becaise creation is both. The physical forbidden fruit was a representation of the knowledge of evil they heard from Satan
see what I’m saying ? It was a real fruit tree , but the knowledge that corrupted them was to disbelieve God and believe satans word about the fruit
like everything the action of eating the forbidden fruit , came from the deception and temptation on thier heart and mind . The action was a result of what Satan told them and they accepted it ....so came into Mans heart the knowledge of evil
eating the fruit was irrelevant it was disbelieving Gods word about the fruit and believing the knowledge of evil that led them To transgress
all things have a physical and spiritual aspect is my opinion
Because it says "eat" that means it had to be the type of physical fruit we think it is? What do you say to those that say Christ was the Tree of Life? Is that not an analogy? I'm not getting why our situation, in current day, has to be different. It would completely shut down those that say, "well, I didn't eat the apple".
I just take it as the whole situation says fruit
So I’m thinking it’s actual fruit because of the setting and what God says to them
“And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
the tree of life also in the midst of the garden,
and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
...And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Genesis 2:8-9, 15-17
knowledge comes from words or rather words carry knowledge within them
this is the knowledge of good in adams situation
“Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Adam would never eat the fruit with that knowledge
But then came the knowledge of evil they believed and ate. They actually followed the knowledge of evil before they ever ate the fruit
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”
Genesis 3:4-6 KJV
you can literally see her kind change about the fruit from what God said
“And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.”
Genesis 3:2-3
then she accepted the knowledge of evil and her perception of the fruit changed from deadly to Desirable to
Make them Wise and safe to eat and they transgressed believing his word and not Gods
good and evil is our choice with no in between Gods word is always good and dependable satans is always a clever deception followed by a temptation with a promise of pleasure or benifit if we obey him instead of God but it’s always an empty lie
sin feels good for a moment but then it calls us to repeat and sin more to repeat the momentary pleasure to appease the flesh for a Moment . If we drop our inner guard we’re going to always stumble and struggle , if we take the scripture “ guard your mind and hearts in Christ Jesus “ we will experience a freedom and the power of the gospel to begin to empower us
So I’m thinking it’s actual fruit because of the setting and what God says to them
“And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
the tree of life also in the midst of the garden,
and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
...And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Genesis 2:8-9, 15-17
knowledge comes from words or rather words carry knowledge within them
this is the knowledge of good in adams situation
“Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Adam would never eat the fruit with that knowledge
But then came the knowledge of evil they believed and ate. They actually followed the knowledge of evil before they ever ate the fruit
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”
Genesis 3:4-6 KJV
you can literally see her kind change about the fruit from what God said
“And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.”
Genesis 3:2-3
then she accepted the knowledge of evil and her perception of the fruit changed from deadly to Desirable to
Make them Wise and safe to eat and they transgressed believing his word and not Gods
good and evil is our choice with no in between Gods word is always good and dependable satans is always a clever deception followed by a temptation with a promise of pleasure or benifit if we obey him instead of God but it’s always an empty lie
sin feels good for a moment but then it calls us to repeat and sin more to repeat the momentary pleasure to appease the flesh for a Moment . If we drop our inner guard we’re going to always stumble and struggle , if we take the scripture “ guard your mind and hearts in Christ Jesus “ we will experience a freedom and the power of the gospel to begin to empower us
it seems a reference to the early generations in the beginning at creation before the fall God is edifying job to save him from his disposition .
asking job “ where was your understanding when I created the earth and when I made the seas and heavens , when the morning stars sang together
it’s a reference to the “sons of the morning “ is how I take it
“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
Job 38:1, 3-4,
The morning star is a reference to Jesus later in scripture
“I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”
Revelation 22:16
and a reference to the Holy Spirit
“And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”
Revelation 2:28-29
I think also it lands in this reference about Lucifer
“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
Isaiah 14:12 KJV
but in job there it seems to be Gods wisdom shutting jobs mouth and exhorting him to hear the word. God is referring to the beginning generations when creation was and asking job
“ where you there job ? I was there I did those thkngs so Be quiet and listen so you can provide an answer “ in a way I think what God is doing is humbling job and job is very interesting in that he himself is one of three men who were so righteous they could have delivered their own souls
“Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.
Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.”
Ezekiel 14:14, 16
only those three men could have been saved by thier own righteousness that shows us a lot about mankind
what I take from that particular verse is a reference to the beginning. Wrote the earth in heaven began and spread to earth when things were at peace before the fall he’s asking job “ where were you and your wisdom then ?”
job is a fascinating book in that it’s early roots take it back to a time we know so little about a time before the law was given through Moses and just after the floods God is referring job back to thier somewhat recent history then .
as he draws israel
Back to thier deliverance from Egypt to remembrance , as he calls Christians to the remembrance of the deliverance from death through Christ . He often speaks of what he has already done to get a point across to a believer like job
the morning stars in other scripture I believe reference Christ , the Holy Ghost , and Lucifer who went dark as one of the sons of the morning
asking job “ where was your understanding when I created the earth and when I made the seas and heavens , when the morning stars sang together
it’s a reference to the “sons of the morning “ is how I take it
“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”
Job 38:1, 3-4,
The morning star is a reference to Jesus later in scripture
“I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”
Revelation 22:16
and a reference to the Holy Spirit
“And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”
Revelation 2:28-29
I think also it lands in this reference about Lucifer
“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
Isaiah 14:12 KJV
but in job there it seems to be Gods wisdom shutting jobs mouth and exhorting him to hear the word. God is referring to the beginning generations when creation was and asking job
“ where you there job ? I was there I did those thkngs so Be quiet and listen so you can provide an answer “ in a way I think what God is doing is humbling job and job is very interesting in that he himself is one of three men who were so righteous they could have delivered their own souls
“Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.
Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.”
Ezekiel 14:14, 16
only those three men could have been saved by thier own righteousness that shows us a lot about mankind
what I take from that particular verse is a reference to the beginning. Wrote the earth in heaven began and spread to earth when things were at peace before the fall he’s asking job “ where were you and your wisdom then ?”
job is a fascinating book in that it’s early roots take it back to a time we know so little about a time before the law was given through Moses and just after the floods God is referring job back to thier somewhat recent history then .
as he draws israel
Back to thier deliverance from Egypt to remembrance , as he calls Christians to the remembrance of the deliverance from death through Christ . He often speaks of what he has already done to get a point across to a believer like job
the morning stars in other scripture I believe reference Christ , the Holy Ghost , and Lucifer who went dark as one of the sons of the morning
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How could God be talking about Job's time period when He is talking about things before creation?
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."
Lucifer was a star that went dark?! Black Holes used to be called "Dark Stars". Blazars are light from a Dark Star. I think there is something important going on. Like they are the gateway to hell.
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."
Lucifer was a star that went dark?! Black Holes used to be called "Dark Stars". Blazars are light from a Dark Star. I think there is something important going on. Like they are the gateway to hell.
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I’m saying he is speaking to job about the beginning .
the black hole thing And astrology science and everything I’m not familiar enough with I think stars are really cool to look at love telescopes and to wonder as Abraham looked at them in wonder thinking of how very big and vast and beyond my understanding God is whommade the stars even a billion miles from me and also made the earth and all that is
how really incredible he must be to witness his working power as he creates or acts I never come to any conclusion because I think that he is much bigger than our universe as if he is holding it in his wounded palm and it just seems like there’s nine dead to the wonders and knowledge of God
I’m so glad the Bible was spread into the earth it has become an interest over these past two years that I can’t get enough of but I don’t think I actually know much about it yet because the stars are really really far away and really mysterious and God is beyond our reach
I think it leaves us humble to believe the Bible above all else to know how big he is the creator and how small we are as creation bit then , he actually loves us even at our worst while we were still sinners he Gave his life to save us even though he always could have just began again long ago destroying us all and destroying Satan and evil as he will in the end
but he’s given us a message of salvation and a way to believe it in truth and be saved from that end . I believe in God but when I’m talking with you bro I’m just thinking about not as we’re talking trying to figure this stuff out also with you just sharing my take and thought
the black hole thing And astrology science and everything I’m not familiar enough with I think stars are really cool to look at love telescopes and to wonder as Abraham looked at them in wonder thinking of how very big and vast and beyond my understanding God is whommade the stars even a billion miles from me and also made the earth and all that is
how really incredible he must be to witness his working power as he creates or acts I never come to any conclusion because I think that he is much bigger than our universe as if he is holding it in his wounded palm and it just seems like there’s nine dead to the wonders and knowledge of God
I’m so glad the Bible was spread into the earth it has become an interest over these past two years that I can’t get enough of but I don’t think I actually know much about it yet because the stars are really really far away and really mysterious and God is beyond our reach
I think it leaves us humble to believe the Bible above all else to know how big he is the creator and how small we are as creation bit then , he actually loves us even at our worst while we were still sinners he Gave his life to save us even though he always could have just began again long ago destroying us all and destroying Satan and evil as he will in the end
but he’s given us a message of salvation and a way to believe it in truth and be saved from that end . I believe in God but when I’m talking with you bro I’m just thinking about not as we’re talking trying to figure this stuff out also with you just sharing my take and thought
yea that’s an interesting thought about dark stars and dark matter , black hole science it echoes sort of to my thinking because I believe everything we see is only a reflection of the thkngs we don’t see yet
sort of the sun represents God in nature , the center and light of our solar system and then Jesus reflects Gods glory Tony’s while we’re in the darkness of earth in the flesh , the stars represent the angels , the planets other elements I won’t go into lol
what I’m saying is I believe what we can see creation , is a slight and poor reflection of the eternal unseen things . Life here and now I believe is only a shadow or poorly lit reflection of what is in the heavenly realm eternal life
scriptures like this began to make me think hard about a year ago someone shared some of thier studies about the topic and it really changes my thinking a lot
These are a few of the scriptures this study led me to think about
“For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen:
for the things which are seen are temporal;
but the things which are not seen are eternal.”
2 Corinthians 4:16-18 KJV
and then to me scripture like this makes better sense the thkngs we see the earth and heavens the reflections , are going to be destroyed and the real will remain
“And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made,
that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:”
Hebrews 12:27-28 KJV
that’s the grave that saves and what Jesus was teaching about that eternal kingdom not of this world that is surely his word of promise
The thkngs we can’t see but we believe because of Gods promise that’s faith to let those thing be real
sort of the sun represents God in nature , the center and light of our solar system and then Jesus reflects Gods glory Tony’s while we’re in the darkness of earth in the flesh , the stars represent the angels , the planets other elements I won’t go into lol
what I’m saying is I believe what we can see creation , is a slight and poor reflection of the eternal unseen things . Life here and now I believe is only a shadow or poorly lit reflection of what is in the heavenly realm eternal life
scriptures like this began to make me think hard about a year ago someone shared some of thier studies about the topic and it really changes my thinking a lot
These are a few of the scriptures this study led me to think about
“For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen:
for the things which are seen are temporal;
but the things which are not seen are eternal.”
2 Corinthians 4:16-18 KJV
and then to me scripture like this makes better sense the thkngs we see the earth and heavens the reflections , are going to be destroyed and the real will remain
“And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made,
that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:”
Hebrews 12:27-28 KJV
that’s the grave that saves and what Jesus was teaching about that eternal kingdom not of this world that is surely his word of promise
The thkngs we can’t see but we believe because of Gods promise that’s faith to let those thing be real
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