Woman can't teach in the congregation
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1 Cor 14:27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
40Let all things be done decently and in order.
The context makes it obvious that both men and women were told to keep silent in the church when it came to doing things that were out of order.
1) Speaking in tongues without an interpreter... be silent in the church
2) When it was someone elses turn to speak... hold his peace (be silent in the church)
3) Asking questions out of order... this is a shame...keep silent in the church.. and ask their husbands at home.
Not everyone is so stupid that they cannot understand context and authorial intent. So attempting to bludgeon people with bad hermeneutics just screams "I CAN"T UNDERSTAN AUTHORIAL INTENT" or "I AM BEING BELIGERANTLY DENOMINATIONALY INTELLECTUALLY DIHONEST" That is what we see when we read these posts.
29Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
40Let all things be done decently and in order.
The context makes it obvious that both men and women were told to keep silent in the church when it came to doing things that were out of order.
1) Speaking in tongues without an interpreter... be silent in the church
2) When it was someone elses turn to speak... hold his peace (be silent in the church)
3) Asking questions out of order... this is a shame...keep silent in the church.. and ask their husbands at home.
Not everyone is so stupid that they cannot understand context and authorial intent. So attempting to bludgeon people with bad hermeneutics just screams "I CAN"T UNDERSTAN AUTHORIAL INTENT" or "I AM BEING BELIGERANTLY DENOMINATIONALY INTELLECTUALLY DIHONEST" That is what we see when we read these posts.
Women should not Teach or Usurp authority over the man but they are allowed to teach the Bible to a man as Pricilla did to Apollos and she was not usurping authority over him by doing so. The bad interpretation that has been a virus all these years is reading into the text "teach the Bible" or "teach the bible to a man" This is not what he said. He said "Teach or usurp authority over a man." The Greek word translated Teach hear appears only in this one instance in the New Testament. It means Usurp authority over a man. It is a type of teaching that usurps authority over a man. In other words you don't really have to know Greek to understand it since Paul explains what kind of attitude of teaching he is meaning by being verbose and saying "or usurp authority over a man".
If we stick to the text and don't try to apply it to a scenario Paul did not have in mind we can understand it as "Teach / Usurp authority over the man" which is not what happens when a woman teaches the bible to a man. So what scenario would he be talking about? "It is when a woman uninvited take upon herself to teach a man. That would be usurping authority. I am going to teach you what is correct and you must listen to me and do what I say. And the man does not want to hear it. That is something that wives have a problem with. 1 Pet 3 is speaking about the same subject. 1 Pet 3 makes it clear what Paul was talking about because Peter uses the exact same wording as 1 Tim 2:11.
So a woman must not Teach/Usurp authority over a man but a woman can teach the Bible to a man if he wants her to.
You're welcome! I think the light just turned on for some folks.
If we stick to the text and don't try to apply it to a scenario Paul did not have in mind we can understand it as "Teach / Usurp authority over the man" which is not what happens when a woman teaches the bible to a man. So what scenario would he be talking about? "It is when a woman uninvited take upon herself to teach a man. That would be usurping authority. I am going to teach you what is correct and you must listen to me and do what I say. And the man does not want to hear it. That is something that wives have a problem with. 1 Pet 3 is speaking about the same subject. 1 Pet 3 makes it clear what Paul was talking about because Peter uses the exact same wording as 1 Tim 2:11.
So a woman must not Teach/Usurp authority over a man but a woman can teach the Bible to a man if he wants her to.
You're welcome! I think the light just turned on for some folks.
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Men are to keep silent in the church also. 1 Cor 14:28... let him keep silence in the church; There it is. It's that simple.
If you say that context is necessary for verse 28 but not in verse 34 you are being a deceiver. Not a very good one since most people would not fall for it, but some who are willing to ignore authorial intent are willing to read something into the text that they want to be true and will ignore the context and join you in your belligerence, pretending to have a scripture to back up their erroneous prejudice and hate. But they cannot fool God. He knows the hearts and motives.
Context is necessary for them both. If it means women cannot speak in the church then it means men cannot speak in the church as they both say the same thing.
14:28... let him keep silence in the church;
14:34Let ...women keep silence in the churches:
Both require context. You have no right to divorce 34 from context. If you do so you must divorce verse 28 from context and have both men and women remain silent in the churches.
If you say that context is necessary for verse 28 but not in verse 34 you are being a deceiver. Not a very good one since most people would not fall for it, but some who are willing to ignore authorial intent are willing to read something into the text that they want to be true and will ignore the context and join you in your belligerence, pretending to have a scripture to back up their erroneous prejudice and hate. But they cannot fool God. He knows the hearts and motives.
Context is necessary for them both. If it means women cannot speak in the church then it means men cannot speak in the church as they both say the same thing.
14:28... let him keep silence in the church;
14:34Let ...women keep silence in the churches:
Both require context. You have no right to divorce 34 from context. If you do so you must divorce verse 28 from context and have both men and women remain silent in the churches.
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Do a deep deep study on context, history and linguistics and Greek words and meanings and you might learn something new.
Women should not Teach or Usurp authority over the man but they are allowed to teach the Bible to a man as Pricilla did to Apollos and she was not usurping authority over him by doing so. The bad interpretation that has been a virus all these years is reading into the text "teach the Bible" or "teach the bible to a man" This is not what he said. He said "Teach or usurp authority over a man." The Greek word translated Teach hear appears only in this one instance in the New Testament. It means Usurp authority over a man. It is a type of teaching that usurps authority over a man. In other words you don't really have to know Greek to understand it since Paul explains what kind of attitude of teaching he is meaning by being verbose and saying "or usurp authotoover a man".
If we stick to the text and don't try to apply it to a scenario Paul did not have in mind we can understand it as "Teach / Usurp authority over the man" which is not what happens when a woman teaches the bible to a man. So what scenario would he be talking about? "It is when a woman uninvited take upon herself to teach a man. That would be usurping authority. I am going to teach you what is correct and you must listen to me and do what I say. And the man does not want to hear it. That is something that wives have a problem with. 1 Pet 3 is speaking about the same subject. 1 Pet 3 makes it clear what Paul was talking about because Peter uses the exact same wording as 1 Tim 2:11.
So a woman must not Teach/Usurp authority over a man but a woman can teach the Bible to a man if he wants her to. You're welcome! I think the light just turned on for some folks.
If we stick to the text and don't try to apply it to a scenario Paul did not have in mind we can understand it as "Teach / Usurp authority over the man" which is not what happens when a woman teaches the bible to a man. So what scenario would he be talking about? "It is when a woman uninvited take upon herself to teach a man. That would be usurping authority. I am going to teach you what is correct and you must listen to me and do what I say. And the man does not want to hear it. That is something that wives have a problem with. 1 Pet 3 is speaking about the same subject. 1 Pet 3 makes it clear what Paul was talking about because Peter uses the exact same wording as 1 Tim 2:11.
So a woman must not Teach/Usurp authority over a man but a woman can teach the Bible to a man if he wants her to.
You're welcome! I think the light just turned on for some folks.
Though, in my experience and History can confirm, any time a woman is"leading" a church, a government, or an Educational system it is unnatural and unbalanced. Men ARE different than Women- God made Men to lead
Part of the FALL is Women taking the lead and making foolish
Emotional based choices
All one has to do is take a look at the current state of the world to see
The product of Feminization.
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Your opinion is noted. As for history, step up and show the evidence. Contrast it with the unblemished record of male leadership.
That's the one thing in your whole post with which I can agree.
Where is that in Scripture?
Eve did not take the lead; the serpent approached her. Her deception was not based on emotions, but rather on senses and (misled) reason.
Communism, socialism, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, corruption of the media, corruption of politicians in many nations, wars and rumours of wars, all the product of feminization? Please... the nonsense is over the top.
The truth is that problems in human societies are caused by SIN, not by females in leadership.
That's the one thing in your whole post with which I can agree.
Where is that in Scripture?
Eve did not take the lead; the serpent approached her. Her deception was not based on emotions, but rather on senses and (misled) reason.
Communism, socialism, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, corruption of the media, corruption of politicians in many nations, wars and rumours of wars, all the product of feminization? Please... the nonsense is over the top.
The truth is that problems in human societies are caused by SIN, not by females in leadership.
