Who are the NEPHILIM in Genesis 6

[John146]

Where in the Bible is the Scriptures that say the Giants were 17 feet tall????

Again, when do human relations produce giants?

 

[CS1]

Again, when do human relations produce giants?

apparently they have been doing so for some time many many 7 ft around and like 240 8 ft people live today.

 

[John146]

13 ft? Ok,

Angels are sons of God.

A son of God in Scripture one that was sinless in its creation. After the fall, the only way a man can become a son of God is through the new birth, by becoming a new creature in Christ, by believing in the d,b,r for sins.

 

[John146]

apparently they have been doing so for some time many many 7 ft around and like 240 8 ft people live today.

Lol, that’s not a biblical giant. The bible describes it this way...we were as grasshoppers in their sight.

 

[CS1]

Angels are sons of God.

A son of God in Scripture one that was sinless in its creation. After the fall, the only way a man can become a son of God is through the new birth, by becoming a new creature in Christ, by believing in the d,b,r for sins.

that is not correct, in the early year of man the son of god were those of God people who walked with him

Adam walked with God , Enoch walked with God , Noah walked with God , Abraham walked with God , Moses Walked with God , Joshua walked with God.

Jesus said,

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Angel doesn't marry. They do not have sex. God made the angels and God did not create them to have sex. I'm sure those out there want to do all they can to make God seem like when HE makes something the creation can just jump outside of HIS All-powerful
Sovereign and do what they want.

 

[CS1]

Lol, that’s not a biblical giant. The bible describes it this way...we were as grasshoppers in their sight.

the word grasshoppers were figuratively not literally they had fear, remember two of them said we are well able to take the land. They were men 6, 7, 8, 9 ft they were still men.

 

[phil36]

There are two main views on Genesis 6.

One that says that the sons of God are referring to the line of Seth who went with the woman of Cain. basically marrying those who had rejected God.

The other and possibly Older, and certainly held by the early church was that the sons of God here refer to fallen angels (Using Job 1:6 etc as proof that angels where called sons of God).


Which view do I hold well I'm not saying

 

[John146]

that is not correct, in the early year of man the son of god were those of God people who walked with him

Adam walked with God , Enoch walked with God , Noah walked with God , Abraham walked with God , Moses Walked with God , Joshua walked with God.

Any scriptural support? Biblically, how does the Bible describe a son of God?

 

[Scribe]

King Og was probably around 13 feet tall.

11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

I think if his bed was 13.5 feet it would be safe to assume that he was about 11 feet tall.

 

[phil36]

I think if his bed was 13.5 feet it would be safe to assume that he was about 11 feet tall.

I would like a bed that size i'm 6'3

 

[Scribe]

There are two main views on Genesis 6.

One that says that the sons of God are referring to the line of Seth who went with the woman of Cain. basically marrying those who had rejected God.

The other and possibly Older, and certainly held by the early church was that the sons of God here refer to fallen angels (Using Job 1:6 etc as proof that angels where called sons of God).


Which view do I hold well I'm not saying

I don't think it is possible to prove that the early church interpreted it this way or believed that the books of Enoch were inspired. Finding a early church writer who believed it does not make it the early church view. I think that the majority of documented evidence suggests that it was a minority view.

 

[Scribe]

I would like a bed that size i'm 6'3

Which is why we can only speculate. However since the text suggest that it indicated his size we can assume he was close to that size. Assuming he was wealthy enough as a king to commission a bed to be made that did not allow his feet to hang off the end we assume he was a bit less than the size of the bed. Anywhere between 10-12. Can you imagine a 12 foot man? There were giants in the land in those days and this was before the sons of God saw the daughters of men and took them wives of all which they chose.

 

[phil36]

I don't think it is possible to prove that the early church interpreted it this way or believed that the books of Enoch were inspired. Finding a early church writer who believed it does not make it the early church view. I think that the majority of documented evidence suggests that it was a minority view.

I don't believe the book of Enoch is inspired either??

The oldest, and likely the most widely held, interpretation is that the “sons of God” are fallen angels (demons). This was the interpretation most favored in ancient Judaism and the early church (cf. 1 Pet. 3:19–20; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jude 6). The phrase “sons of God” is clearly used elsewhere of angelic hosts in God’s heavenly court (cf. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7). Moreover, the narrator seems to contrast “man” and “the daughters of man” with the “sons of God” in Genesis 6:1–2. TGC

The view that the sons of God were angels is very ancient. In the first century A.D., Flavius Josephus in his Antiquities of the Jews (1:3:1) held the position that angels co-habited with women. Later authors such as Philo of Alexandria (early first century A.D.) also held this position as did many rabbinical authorities. The Genesis Apocryphon, among the Dead Sea Scrolls, states this angelic interpretation.

Furthermore, many Christian interpreters also took this position. These include: Justin, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Cyprian, and Ambrose. Blue LB

However, the traditional view of both pre-Christian Judaism and the early church was that the “sons of God” were spirit beings/angels who took human wives and produced giants known as the Nephilim. This view has become less popular today, probably due to our modern aversion to the supernatural. While the modern Christian may reluctantly embrace the Bible’s teaching about Christ’s virgin birth and resurrection, the idea of human and spirit-bred giants is just too far-fetched. Even John Calvin called this view “absurd”! [Knowing scripture]

Either way, the Point I was making is that there are two main views and like the end times debate we'll be arguing about it till we can ask God face to face. Still worth debating but both are views held by Christians.

 

[Scribe]

I don't believe the book of Enoch is inspired either??











Either way, the Point I was making is that there are two main views and like the end times debate we'll be arguing about it till we can ask God face to face. Still worth debating but both are views held by Christians.

I agree that we will still be talking about it until Jesus comes. I have had to change my attitude about those who believe they are angels. I get tempted to question their ability to hear from the Spirit. But the fact is there have been sincere believers that think they are angels throughout history and I have to be patient with them.

It is not a salvation issue (even though the real message is about salvation issues). I am convinced that the angel theory robs the reader of the message that is most important. Fortunately that message is repeated so often in the rest of the scripture they can miss it here and pick it up many times again later.

 

[Major]

Again, when do human relations produce giants?

When they have sex.

John F. Carroll standing height, 8 ft 7 3⁄4 in.

Väinö Myllyrinne Recognized as the tallest living person from 1940 to his death in 1963. Measured 8 ft 3 in tall at his peak.

Édouard Beaupré His death certificate described him as being 8 ft 3 tall and still growing.

Andre the Giant!

 

[Major]

Which is why we can only speculate. However since the text suggest that it indicated his size we can assume he was close to that size. Assuming he was wealthy enough as a king to commission a bed to be made that did not allow his feet to hang off the end we assume he was a bit less than the size of the bed. Anywhere between 10-12. Can you imagine a 12 foot man? There were giants in the land in those days and this was before the sons of God saw the daughters of men and took them wives of all which they chose.

Specualtion!!!!

 

[Major]

I don't think it is possible to prove that the early church interpreted it this way or believed that the books of Enoch were inspired. Finding a early church writer who believed it does not make it the early church view. I think that the majority of documented evidence suggests that it was a minority view.

All anyone has to do is actually READ the book of Enoch.

It is "Occultic"!!!!! Nothing in it can be accepted.

 

[Major]

Any scriptural support? Biblically, how does the Bible describe a son of God?

As angels AND as born again believers. CONTEXT and LOCATION gives you the answer.

Example.......In Job 1:6 the "sons of God" came WITH Satan to report to God.

God is in heaven. There were NO MEN in heaven when Job was written. SO LOCATION demands that the "sons of God" in that Scripture are FALLEN Angels.

WHY............Because they CAME WITH Satan. Good angels would and have never such a thing!

 

[Major]

the word grasshoppers were figuratively not literally they had fear, remember two of them said we are well able to take the land. They were men 6, 7, 8, 9 ft they were still men.

Correct!

AND...........those men, the 10 were scared to death. Their imaginations were running very high and a man who was 6 or even 7 foot to them looked to be a Giant!

 

[Major]

There are two main views on Genesis 6.

One that says that the sons of God are referring to the line of Seth who went with the woman of Cain. basically marrying those who had rejected God.

The other and possibly Older, and certainly held by the early church was that the sons of God here refer to fallen angels (Using Job 1:6 etc as proof that angels where called sons of God).


Which view do I hold well I'm not saying

Matthew 22:30 should be considered.