Scripture that supports soulless humans before Adam

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"Let us make man" could mean man already existed.

God said Let "US" is speaking of the Triune God who is clearly seen in Genesis 1 and confirmed in John chapter 1.
 

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there is none

OP why do you like barking up the wrong tree all the time?
Just seems a bit strange.

Its like the schrodinger cat thing again. Silly. seeing stuff that isnt even there.
 
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God said Let "US" is speaking of the Triune God who is clearly seen in Genesis 1 and confirmed in John chapter 1.
Well, or course Jesus is included. Making man with a soul could be a different thing.
 

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Well, or course Jesus is included. Making man with a soul could be a different thing.
It could be if God did not "breathe in the man and he BECAME a living soul". The context of Became is speaking of the time man was. The idea of a "man" was already in the plan of an All-knowing God.

Nothing in scripture suggests the man was before God said Let US make a man. God-Breathed into man the "Breath of life" and then man became.
 
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It could be if God did not "breathe in the man and he BECAME a living soul". The context of Became is speaking of the time man was. The idea of a "man" was already in the plan of an All-knowing God.

Nothing in scripture suggests the man was before God said Let US make a man. God-Breathed into man the "Breath of life" and then man became.
Okay, there was a plan ..does that mean there could be some kind of prototype?
 

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Okay, there was a plan ..does that mean there could be some kind of prototype?
Again God doesn't make mistakes, and the word of God doesn't suggest that there were "prototypes".
 
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Again God doesn't make mistakes, and the word of God doesn't suggest that there were "prototypes".
Prototypes that were not physical how we think of it. They could have become history that didn't actually transpire in our timeline ..only the bones.
 

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Prototypes that were not physical how we think of it. They could have become history that didn't actually transpire in our timeline ..only the bones.
Anything is possible if you do not take what the word of God says about it or doesn't say.
 
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Anything is possible if you do not take what the word of God says about it or doesn't say.
It's like you don't want us to have an explanation for evolution.
 

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It's like you don't want us to have an explanation for evolution.

LOL, The explanation of "evolution? FYI, evolution on the originator of the theory is all we see was done without a God, but I can't tell you how it was done. God is the first Cause uncaused. Human reasoning without the existence of God makes himself a god as the seeds of Marxism/atheism and evolution = the big lie. I don't have to explain foolishness.
 
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in this kind of non-sense-ignorant post, it's always easy to see/discern
what surrounds and influences their minds/words -
and then we can see/discern those who KNOW, for God always
astounds with His Glory...
 
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in this kind of non-sense-ignorant post, it's always easy to see/discern
what surrounds and influences their minds/words -
and then we can see/discern those who KNOW, for God always
astounds with His Glory...
Are you calling me evil because you don't know science?
 

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Are you calling me evil because you don't know science?
I think you have greatly misunderstood my comment, however, evolution IS evil and it was created in the mind of a man who had hate for God. If you see yourself as the originator of evolution AS I stated, and think I have called you evil, that is a strawman you are creating because of the truth to what I have said.
 
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I think you have greatly misunderstood my comment, however, evolution IS evil and it was created in the mind of a man who had hate for God. If you see yourself as the originator of evolution AS I stated, and think I have called you evil, that is a strawman you are creating because of the truth to what I have said.
I think you have someone blocked, I wasn't talking to you.

Anyways, you're not getting that I have ways to explain the bones ..are saying they don't exist?
 

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I think you have someone blocked, I wasn't talking to you.

Anyways, you're not getting that I have ways to explain the bones ..are saying they don't exist?
You have a " way " to explain the "Bones" are you referring to the skeletal records that evolution doesn't have of any species changing from one kind to another?
 

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Yep, so how do know that happened in the original creation week?
what are you asking ?

“And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:31‬ ‭

chapter two takes a closer look at creation that we just got an overview of chapter one should end like this

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:1-3‬ ‭

Seven days is that what you were asking ?

chapter two then goes back into a closer examination of what was priorly described for instance in chapter one we see an overview

“And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the third day.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:11-13‬ ‭


But then chapter two reverts back into that timeline for a closer look at mans creation

“These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground,

and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;

and man became a living soul.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it seems confusing because we read it chronologically , chapter two is a closer look at what happened in chapter one
 
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You have a " way " to explain the "Bones" are you referring to the skeletal records that evolution doesn't have of any species changing from one kind to another?
I'm in the business to destroy the evolution excuse. Pretending they don't have evidence isn't helping anything. It certainly isn't going to get them to listen to you about anything.
 
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what are you asking ?

“These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
Wait, it said "generations"?
 

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I'm in the business to destroy the evolution excuse. Pretending they don't have evidence isn't helping anything. It certainly isn't going to get them to listen to you about anything.
They don't have evidence LOL. And to suggest they do by placing false narrative that one is pretending they don't have evidence
( Evolution) is dishonesty. Evolution was formed on a lie.

There is no proof of it. They have no evidence of one species changing from another species to another kind. 0 nada.

and FYI, if you are saying you are an evolutionist please know I am not trying to get you to listen to me :) Nor would I go to an Evolution website to try and prove how foolish they are.
 
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people, a ruse is a ruse, and a skunk is a skunk that always has a certain smell
that tells you to stay away and not play into skunky games!
:):)