Body Of CHRIST "Does NOT" Go To Heaven?
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Kind of puts the kabosh on OSAS, doesn't it.
Luke
21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares.
21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Luke
21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares.
21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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There is no doubt the 5 foolish virgins were saved.
The one taken/ left also has "two in a bed one taken/ left.
That is framed before the flood and watching and waiting.
So watching and waiting a spouse is taken and the other is left in bed
....and that is framed " before the flood"...pretrib.
Left behind is easily defended.
You would need a heathen in bed with an believer and "virgin" to mean something besides what it plainly means... Pure and undefiled. Obviously born again believers.
The one taken/ left also has "two in a bed one taken/ left.
That is framed before the flood and watching and waiting.
So watching and waiting a spouse is taken and the other is left in bed
....and that is framed " before the flood"...pretrib.
Left behind is easily defended.
You would need a heathen in bed with an believer and "virgin" to mean something besides what it plainly means... Pure and undefiled. Obviously born again believers.
No Believers will be left behind. Jesus will never leave nor forsake His own. Some may get more rewards than others, but none will be left behind. Lots of people profess and claim to be believers, but deep down they are not...
Matthew
25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?
25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?
25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Those who are left behind should just be glad that they will get one last chance to receive Jesus' Atonement. Many of these will probably be Judaizers.
Matthew
25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?
25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?
25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Those who are left behind should just be glad that they will get one last chance to receive Jesus' Atonement. Many of these will probably be Judaizers.
Correct. The heavenly city New Jerusalem is personified so that it stands for the Bride of Christ within. And it is the eternal home of the saints. What most people miss is that when the New Heavens and New Earth are established, New Jerusalem becomes the sole heavenly body over the earth in order to give light to the earth. It replaces the sun, and the light of God and of the Lamb is sufficient to replace sunlight.
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Here's an interesting thought: The Heavenly Jerusalem is ~~1500 miles Cubed, correct?
Now, considering Israel's hope is earthly, And, The Body Of CHRIST's hope is Heavenly,
could this thought be applicable to "the Eternal home of the saints"?
Israel "rules and reigns" on the Ground/Lower Levels, And,
The Body Of CHRIST "rules and reigns" on The Upper Levels?
Just thinking... { hopefully Not stinkin'...
}
Now, considering Israel's hope is earthly, And, The Body Of CHRIST's hope is Heavenly,
could this thought be applicable to "the Eternal home of the saints"?
Israel "rules and reigns" on the Ground/Lower Levels, And,
The Body Of CHRIST "rules and reigns" on The Upper Levels?
Just thinking... { hopefully Not stinkin'...
}
Read the 7 letters to the seven churches.
You will see the exact carnal believers that are believers. What they are commanded to change...not get reborn again
1 corinthians has a similar subject ....carnal believers.
Paul said " I have turned such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh...."
Also the beam seat is rewards based.
Awards is " worthy ( awards) vs unworthy( no rewards)
Does not mean they are not saved.
Means they are not worthy
If any believer was worthy to be the intimate bride then Jesus waited his words by saying PRAY that you be counted worthy"
That would be totally unnecessary if any believer with hidden sin or no intimacy could hang out and be in the rapture.
You are thinking " salvation"
The rapture is the gathering of the bride...not a gathering of everyone saved.
Those left behind are the foolish virgins.
Virgins ( saved) but foolish.
If we say heathens are pure and undefiled (virgins) we misunderstand salvation.
But Jesus makes sure the point is illustrated.
The foolish also had oil ( Holy spirit) ,light, and were watching for Jesus.
Definately born again.
Not convinced?
In rev 2 Jesus TO BELIEVERS;
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
That is to BELIEVERS.
BELIEVERS BEING JUDGED.
STILL BELIEVERS NONE THE LESS.
Still not convinced?
3 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
See that? Believers but either worthy or not worthy.
Why? Because they either are walking in holiness or not.
Just as the corinthians were carnal and in need of judgement...so it is with the foolish virgins ( believers)
Still not convinced?
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
The innumerable number in heaven were saved and beheaded. So they are martyrs.
But martyrs with dirty robes.
Their robes had to be washed.
Why? They were carnal believers. Nominal church goers. Pew warmers. Foolish virgins.
Still not convinced? Here is the lukewarm church. ( which you say is no issue at all since Jesus is only concerned with believers and there is no such thing as a carnal (Luke warm) believer.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
See that?
Believers but not worthy of the same reward as an overcomer.
Jesus said to believers
"PRAY YOU MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY."
He said that to believers.
Roughly half the church will be left behind
That is easy to defend.
You will see the exact carnal believers that are believers. What they are commanded to change...not get reborn again
1 corinthians has a similar subject ....carnal believers.
Paul said " I have turned such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh...."
Also the beam seat is rewards based.
Awards is " worthy ( awards) vs unworthy( no rewards)
Does not mean they are not saved.
Means they are not worthy
If any believer was worthy to be the intimate bride then Jesus waited his words by saying PRAY that you be counted worthy"
That would be totally unnecessary if any believer with hidden sin or no intimacy could hang out and be in the rapture.
You are thinking " salvation"
The rapture is the gathering of the bride...not a gathering of everyone saved.
Those left behind are the foolish virgins.
Virgins ( saved) but foolish.
If we say heathens are pure and undefiled (virgins) we misunderstand salvation.
But Jesus makes sure the point is illustrated.
The foolish also had oil ( Holy spirit) ,light, and were watching for Jesus.
Definately born again.
Not convinced?
In rev 2 Jesus TO BELIEVERS;
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
That is to BELIEVERS.
BELIEVERS BEING JUDGED.
STILL BELIEVERS NONE THE LESS.
Still not convinced?
3 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
See that? Believers but either worthy or not worthy.
Why? Because they either are walking in holiness or not.
Just as the corinthians were carnal and in need of judgement...so it is with the foolish virgins ( believers)
Still not convinced?
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
The innumerable number in heaven were saved and beheaded. So they are martyrs.
But martyrs with dirty robes.
Their robes had to be washed.
Why? They were carnal believers. Nominal church goers. Pew warmers. Foolish virgins.
Still not convinced? Here is the lukewarm church. ( which you say is no issue at all since Jesus is only concerned with believers and there is no such thing as a carnal (Luke warm) believer.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
See that?
Believers but not worthy of the same reward as an overcomer.
Jesus said to believers
"PRAY YOU MAY BE COUNTED WORTHY."
He said that to believers.
Roughly half the church will be left behind
That is easy to defend.
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Rev 2
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Now this is interesting.
Postrib rapture adherents by virtue of their doctrine are not in ANY WAY watching. They see us as fools. Deceived.
Jesus SPECIFICALLY addresses them as " not watching" and their untimely demise.
Woah.
Not believing in the imminent return?
Right about now would be a good time to rethink or actually read our verses.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Now this is interesting.
Postrib rapture adherents by virtue of their doctrine are not in ANY WAY watching. They see us as fools. Deceived.
Jesus SPECIFICALLY addresses them as " not watching" and their untimely demise.
Woah.
Not believing in the imminent return?
Right about now would be a good time to rethink or actually read our verses.
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Won't work.
They all woke up.
So none died or were resurrected.
Plus you got the dead leaving the scene to go buy oil, and asking the wise for some of theirs.( who you say are resurrected)
So the dead who are not resurrected are asking the living for the Holy Spirit?....and walking around going to buy oil?
Clever, but does not fit at all.
They all woke up.
So none died or were resurrected.
Plus you got the dead leaving the scene to go buy oil, and asking the wise for some of theirs.( who you say are resurrected)
So the dead who are not resurrected are asking the living for the Holy Spirit?....and walking around going to buy oil?
Clever, but does not fit at all.
