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That you know of... According to jesus john the baptist was the greatest prophet would you agree with that? Some would say Elijah or Isaiah.
When are the good deeds of the Lord ever broadcast in these days...very few if any.

Question....what is this pre -eminence you seem to use after Christ name? Just curious 😜😜
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yes, John the Baptist which is an Elijah, is the greatest of the Prophets.

Seriously speaking, what would you consider to be greater than what jesus His Pre-Eminence did?

I call Jesus, His Pre-Eminence because HE is GOD and HE has Pre-Eminence in all things. There are people in the earth today that will even call their children Jesus, in ignorance, I choose to hallow the name of My GOD.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
No one has done anything greater than HE did. HE healed a man's ear that was chopped of for example, who has done greater that in this earth?

HE fed 5000 with 5 loaves and 2 fishes.

Again, NO ONE has done greater than HE did, not even to talk of equal.
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If no one has done greater, or will in the future do greater miracles than those that Jesus did, then Jesus would be wrong in His statement in John 14:12. He is not wrong.
Did not Joshua have the sun stay in place while he was in combat with the enemy? Some might see this as a great miracle. Did not Isaiah cause the sun to return back 10 degrees on the dial of Ahaz? I think this might also be considered a significantly greater miracle than an ear attachment.

Christ is not wrong, and there will be greater miracles than those He did when on the earth. When the woman who travails brings forth the man child, wherever he goes through the faithless will be torn to shreds (Micah 5:8). I think that those things that the Lord will show those with faith solely on the lord, will produce miracles all over the place (Micah 7:15-16).

Micah 5:8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

Micah 7:15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. 16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.
 
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luigi said:
If no one has done greater, or will in the future do greater miracles than those that Jesus did, then Jesus would be wrong in His statement in John 14:12. He is not wrong.
Did not Joshua have the sun stay in place while he was in combat with the enemy? Some might see this as a great miracle. Did not Isaiah cause the sun to return back 10 degrees on the dial of Ahaz? I think this might also be considered a significantly greater miracle than an ear attachment.

Christ is not wrong, and there will be greater miracles than those He did when on the earth. When the woman who travails brings forth the man child, wherever he goes through the faithless will be torn to shreds (Micah 5:8). I think that those things that the Lord will show those with faith solely on the lord, will produce miracles all over the place (Micah 7:15-16).

Micah 5:8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

Micah 7:15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. 16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.
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Good to see you have some Insight. Now here is my question. Were any of the Great Prophets of GOD you mentioned "born again"?
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
Good to see you have some Insight. Now here is my question. Were any of the Great Prophets of GOD you mentioned "born again"?
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Joshua and Isaiah, among others had faith in God/Jesus/love. They therefore believed in Christ and met the requirements in John 14:12, and therefore were able to perform greater miracles as those of the Lord.
 
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luigi said:
Joshua and Isaiah, among others had faith in God/Jesus/love. They therefore believed in Christ and met the requirements in John 14:12, and therefore were able to perform greater miracles as those of the Lord.
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Im glad you touched on these things, so we can have a meaningful discussion of them. Jesus His Pre-Eminence commanded the winds, and the seas, and walked on water and so on. Why do you think Joshua was able to stop very rotation of the planet around the orbit of the sun?

Secondly, was it Joshua and Isaiah that Jesus His Pre-Eminence was speaking to at that time HE said this? For they had already left this world and gone to Abrahams Bosom.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
Im glad you touched on these things, so we can have a meaningful discussion of them. Jesus His Pre-Eminence commanded the winds, and the seas, and walked on water and so on. Why do you think Joshua was able to stop very rotation of the planet around the orbit of the sun?

Secondly, was it Joshua and Isaiah that Jesus His Pre-Eminence was speaking to at that time HE said this? For they had already left this world and gone to Abrahams Bosom.
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All who wholly and solely believe in GOD who is Love, whom Jesus is ONE with, meet the criteria in John 14:12. I stated this in my previous post, and so yes, I do believe that Joshua and Isaiah are included among those whom the Lord was speaking of. You seem to me to have a problem believing that there are some who have done, and will do greater works/miracles than those that the Lord did, which He stated they who believe in Him will do.
 
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luigi said:
All who wholly and solely believe in GOD who is Love, whom Jesus is ONE with, meet the criteria in John 14:12. I stated this in my previous post, and so yes, I do believe that Joshua and Isaiah are included among those whom the Lord was speaking of. You seem to me to have a problem believing that there are some who have done, and will do greater works/miracles than those that the Lord did, which He stated they who believe in Him will do.
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No, I don't have a problem at all, i asked a question. So you haven't answered me as to why Joshua was able to stop the rotation of the earth on her axis, and around the sun. What was that pointing to? And my second question is: Do you then think that Joshua and Isaiah the Great Prophets are Christians?
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
No, I don't have a problem at all, i asked a question. So you haven't answered me as to why Joshua was able to stop the rotation of the earth on her axis, and around the sun. What was that pointing to? And my second question is: Do you then think that Joshua and Isaiah the Great Prophets are Christians?
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I know that Joshua and Isaiah believed in love, truth, justice, and therefore believed in God and Jesus, and therefore are Christians. This is such a super simple spiritual realization.
 
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luigi said:
I know that Joshua and Isaiah believed in love, truth, justice, and therefore believed in God and Jesus, and therefore are Christians. This is such a super simple spiritual realization.
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I am very happy you said this. This has given a smile for real. It is good to see there are some here, if only one person, that can see they are Christians. Wonderful.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
I am very happy you said this. This has given a smile for real. It is good to see there are some here, if only one person, that can see they are Christians. Wonderful.
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The Samaritan in Luke 10 is also a Christian.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
I call Jesus, His Pre-Eminence because HE is GOD and HE has Pre-Eminence in all things. There are people in the earth today that will even call their children Jesus, in ignorance, I choose to hallow the name of My GOD.
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In YOUR ignorance you have overlooked the fact that "Jesus" was a very common name in first-century Judea.

Maybe check your facts, and check your arrogance at the door, instead of spewing condemnation on others.
 
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In YOUR ignorance you have overlooked the fact that "Jesus" was a very common name in first-century Judea.

Maybe check your facts, and check your arrogance at the door, instead of spewing condemnation on others.
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How have i condemned anyone? All i see is you being arrogant.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
The Good Samaritan is indeed a Christian.
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No, he's not. He's a character in a parable. Jesus said nothing whatsoever about the character being a Christian, nor even about believing in God. The appellation, "Christian" did not even exist until several years after Pentecost.

Here's a good rule for commentary: be silent where Scripture is silent.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
How have i condemned anyone? All i see is you being arrogant.
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That's because you are either unwilling or unable to consider your own actions, but are quick to throw shade at others.

Do you think that calling others "ignorant" is edifying? Look at your own words before you look at mine.
 
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Dino246 said:
No, he's not. He's a character in a parable. Jesus said nothing whatsoever about the character being a Christian, nor even about believing in God. The appellation, "Christian" did not even exist until several years after Pentecost.

Here's a good rule for commentary: be silent where Scripture is silent.
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The Good samaritan, is the husband of the Samaritan woman, and the restorer of all things .
 
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Dino246 said:
That's because you are either unwilling or unable to consider your own actions, but are quick to throw shade at others.

Do you think that calling others "ignorant" is edifying? Look at your own words before you look at mine.
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That's because you are either unwilling or unable to consider your own actions, but are quick to throw shade at others.

Do you think that calling others "ignorant" is edifying? Look at your own words before you look at mine.
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They were ignorant. In fact, every one who names their child after a Prophet, Prophetess, or Jesus His Pre-Eminence, or any of the dignitaries in the kingdom, isaiah, Exekiel, even Daniel, Samuel, have shown a height of Ignorance.

And i am not condemning them to anything, I am only speaking the truth on the matter that i have known.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
The Good samaritan, is the husband of the Samaritan woman, and the restorer of all things .
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The context is Luke 10. There is no woman in the parable, there is no mention of the Samaritan being married, and the term, "Good Samaritan" is not in Scripture.

Again, instead of adding to Scripture, be silent where Scripture is silent.
 
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Dino246 said:
The context is Luke 10. There is no woman in the parable, there is no mention of the Samaritan being married, and the term, "Good Samaritan" is not in Scripture.

Again, instead of adding to Scripture, be silent where Scripture is silent.
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So literal, literal to the core. The carnal mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit. Jesus His Pre-Eminence spoke in parables because it was not given to them to know the mysteries of the kingdom. If you do not understand them, then so be it.
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
They were ignorant. In fact, every one who names their child after a Prophet, Prophetess, or Jesus His Pre-Eminence, or any of the dignitaries in the kingdom, isaiah, Exekiel, even Daniel, Samuel, have shown a height of Ignorance.
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Wow. It's not often that someone displays such a degree of folly.

What other people name their children is absolutely none of your business.
 
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