'The rich young ruler ' confusion .

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John146 said:
We are sinners and need the righteousness of God which is through Jesus Christ. That's the only righteousness that saves.
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Once born again we are no longer sinners.

Yes our right standing is not based on behavior but innocent blood.

But the pauline can sin unrepentantly and without remorse because he is SUPPOSED TO SIN.

The saint that is full of the Holy Spirit notices something is wrong. Someone left. The Holy Spirit left.

To label one's self a sinner is to be joined to sin.

The Sanctified person is aware of holiness.
The mechanical ,mental born again person is aware of his eternal sinfulness.
Jesus is a life insurance policy.
No need for intimacy.
Intimacy will not mix with a sinful life.

The target is not even there because ,to you , you will always have sin.

Think about it
All pauline extremists are cessationist.

It all makes sense once the light is shine on it.

You think being sin oriented is correct?

Read the 7 letters to the 7 churches.

Oh wait...that book is bad too huh?
Not pauline correct?
 
throughfaith said:
1 cor 15
1¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel unto you, which I preached unto you ,which also you recieved, and wherein ye stand ;

2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3¶For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


What would they ' keep in memory '?Paul reciting the entire old testament? Or what it actually says in those verses .
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Now read where PAUL SAID " we preach Jesus and him crucified."

Jesus is salvation.
Salvation is not a prayer or a doctrine, salvation is Jesus.
 
Meet Jesus.

He will save.
He is alive.
He will inhabit you.

Being born again is Jesus in me.
 
Absolutely said:
Now read where PAUL SAID " we preach Jesus and him crucified."

Jesus is salvation.
Salvation is not a prayer or a doctrine, salvation is Jesus.
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' salvation is Jesus ' ? " Salvation is Jesus " ."..Everyone !!! Jesus!!!! " .. Yeah but what must i do to be saved ?
"Don't worry i can help you with that ....Jesus!!! hes salvation !!! "

''OK But what must i do to be saved ? " please tell me !! "

" Jesus...he's salvation !!! "

" OK fine , I.ll ask someone else "
 
Absolutely said:
Once born again we are no longer sinners.

Yes our right standing is not based on behavior but innocent blood.

But the pauline can sin unrepentantly and without remorse because he is SUPPOSED TO SIN.

The saint that is full of the Holy Spirit notices something is wrong. Someone left. The Holy Spirit left.

To label one's self a sinner is to be joined to sin.

The Sanctified person is aware of holiness.
The mechanical ,mental born again person is aware of his eternal sinfulness.
Jesus is a life insurance policy.
No need for intimacy.
Intimacy will not mix with a sinful life.

The target is not even there because ,to you , you will always have sin.

Think about it
All pauline extremists are cessationist.

It all makes sense once the light is shine on it.

You think being sin oriented is correct?

Read the 7 letters to the 7 churches.

Oh wait...that book is bad too huh?
Not pauline correct?
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I's there any verse in Paul's letters where the Holy Spirit leaves ?
 
Absolutely said:
Once born again we are no longer sinners.

Yes our right standing is not based on behavior but innocent blood.

But the pauline can sin unrepentantly and without remorse because he is SUPPOSED TO SIN.

The saint that is full of the Holy Spirit notices something is wrong. Someone left. The Holy Spirit left.

To label one's self a sinner is to be joined to sin.

The Sanctified person is aware of holiness.
The mechanical ,mental born again person is aware of his eternal sinfulness.
Jesus is a life insurance policy.
No need for intimacy.
Intimacy will not mix with a sinful life.

The target is not even there because ,to you , you will always have sin.

Think about it
All pauline extremists are cessationist.

It all makes sense once the light is shine on it.

You think being sin oriented is correct?

Read the 7 letters to the 7 churches.

Oh wait...that book is bad too huh?
Not pauline correct?
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Is there a verse that says we lose the Holy Spirit and become un regenerated , un justified ,lose the righteousness of Christ ect? We seem to have all the details on what happens to believers. Every detail is there . But no description of all this being undone or reversed .
 
John146 said:
Paul was the chief sinner.
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He said that in humility not that he sinned more than a bike heathen.

Only a holy and righteous walking man can point out sin in another.

Do you consider paul a hypocrite for calling out several believers walking in sin?

You actually think paul walked in sin?
 
throughfaith said:
You sound like you don't know what to tell a person on how to be saved today?
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Pot <> kettle big time if you think salvation is a prayer.

Salvation is a person.

Who prayed with paul?

And myself...I had a similar experience with Jesus.

You are so steeped in doctrine you have forgotten the one that does the work.

It ain't another human
We are but a lightening rod for his power.
 
throughfaith said:
1 cor 15
1¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel unto you, which I preached unto you ,which also you recieved, and wherein ye stand ;

2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3¶For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


What would they ' keep in memory '?Paul reciting the entire old testament? Or what it actually says in those verses .
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You think everything is " either / or "

You fail to see that you are presenting components of the entire picture.

Your " pieces" are presented as the whole.
 
Absolutely said:
You think everything is " either / or "

You fail to see that you are presenting components of the entire picture.

Your " pieces" are presented as the whole.
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1 cor 15 .1,-4 IS the Gospel defined .
It is the Gospel in a nut shell .
We have a verse that literally tells us what the Gospel is today . Believe it .
 
Absolutely said:
Pot <> kettle big time if you think salvation is a prayer.

Salvation is a person.

Who prayed with paul?

And myself...I had a similar experience with Jesus.

You are so steeped in doctrine you have forgotten the one that does the work.

It ain't another human
We are but a lightening rod for his power.
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We are to reason with people . On the death , burial and resurrection .
 
Absolutely said:
You think everything is " either / or "

You fail to see that you are presenting components of the entire picture.

Your " pieces" are presented as the whole.
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If we don't have an either or ,then we cannot distinguish between a false gospel and the true .
 
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