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If we read the verse as it stands we would understand what Jesus told the disciples when the Holy Spirit brought to rememberence what Jesus spoke to THEM .
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
Then why did he call 1 Cor 15 :50-56 a mystery?
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Because before our Lord Jesus came into this world, the Jewish people believed that when Messiah appeared, he would destroy the human enemies of Israel and bring harmony to everyone else on earth. Instead, Jesus taught the truth of reaping what we sow.

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This revealed that it is a mystery to him.
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It was previously a mystery to him.

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If GOD was speaking to him, would he not have known this in details?
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He's explaining it in detail.

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How shall we all be changed?
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From a perishable body to an imperishable one.

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And he said not all will die, but in Hebrews he said every man must die.
Jesus said the same thing,

whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die Jn.11:26

Of course, we must understand that Jesus did not mean that our flesh wouldn't perish.

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Yet, Enoch and Elijah were changed, they were transfigured in life, without dying at all. How did they do it?
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You're assuming the flesh of those men didn't perish in the process of God taking them. From all we know, there's no reason for you to assume that.

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Then in Rev 10:7, it is written:
When the 7th trumpet shall begin to sound, the mystery of GOD shall be finished...

It is the 7th Angel of the 7th Church that will finish the mystery, which reveals that saul paul didn't. So how is it the Most Holy Spirit that led saul paul into all truth?
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When the 7th angel sounds, the saints say,

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev.11:15

The revelation of Jesus Christ is just that. It's knowing Christ. Paul knew the kingdoms of this world belong to God and Christ. I know it also. Every believer shoud come to know this. It's only a mystery to baby Christians and unbelievers.
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Because before our Lord Jesus came into this world, the Jewish people believed that when Messiah appeared, he would destroy the human enemies of Israel and bring harmony to everyone else on earth. Instead, Jesus taught the truth of reaping what we sow.

It was previously a mystery to him.


He's explaining it in detail.


From a perishable body to an imperishable one.
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No he hasn't explained anything in detail. How did Enoch and Elijah put on that immortal body without dying at all? Blood cannot inherit the kingd of GOD, neither can corruption inherit incorruption. With this in mind, how can your corruptible body, inherit the incorruptible body? There is a process, there is the path to life, and that is what is the mystery.
 
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Journeyman [/B]Of course, we must understand that Jesus did not mean that our flesh wouldn't perish. .
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That is exactly what HE meant. HE preached the Gospel of Ever Lasting life, which living without dying at all, Enoch and Elijah the Great Prophets did. Any person who dies, loses his soul... What that means is the body that died, loses its soul. The Soul is the Spirit Being of a person programmed in the soul that goes to Abrahams Bosom where they will wait till the resurrection.

HE meant exactly that, that you can live forever without dying at all. And this is the message that the people rejected.
 
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Again, HE is talking to the church.
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Matthew 15:24

“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Are you reading this as :



“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of the church "

Matthew 10:5

“These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:”

“These twelve of the church Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the church and into any city of the church enter ye not. ??
 
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throughfaith said:
Matthew 15:24

“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Are you reading this as :



“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of the church "

Matthew 10:5

“These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:”

“These twelve of the church Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the church and into any city of the church enter ye not. ??
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The lost sheep of Israel is the Father and Mother of Israel, Father Adam, and Mother Eve. Israel is the name of the global community of the children of the kingdom. It is the name of the nation of the children of the kingdom. The 7 Churches are the churches of Israel.
So
 
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The lost sheep of Israel is the Father and Mother of Israel, Father Adam, and Mother Eve. Israel is the name of the global community of the children of the kingdom. It is the name of the nation of the children of the kingdom. The 7 Churches are the churches of Israel.
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Ok were back to Mormons again?
 
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Is not the woman called the body?
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I've no idea what your taking about to be honest..Strange teaching indeed . Which denomination is this ? I'm guessing some form of torah observer group ?
 
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That is exactly what HE meant. HE preached the Gospel of Ever Lasting life, which living without dying at all,
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You're misunderstanding Christs words the same way some religious leaders who hated Jesus did,

Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Jn.8:52

If you wish to view life as pertaining only to your mortal body the way atheists do, then contimue disregarding what Jesus said.
 
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You're misunderstanding Christs words the same way some religious leaders who hated Jesus did,

Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Jn.8:52

If you wish to view life as pertaining only to your mortal body the way atheists do, then contimue disregarding what Jesus said.
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Simple question, How did Enoch and Elijah live forever without dying at all? Jesus His Pre-Eminence made it clear that is why they reacted that way, but they also rejected HIM because HE made HIMSELF equal with GOD. Please, next time make sure you don't omit things.
 
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