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Dino246

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Yahcubs777 said:
These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.”
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You're either blind, obstinate, or both.

Verse 14: So Jesus said to them plainly, "Lazarus is dead".

Argue with Him if you like.
 
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Dino246 said:
You're either blind, obstinate, or both.

Verse 14: So Jesus said to them plainly, "Lazarus is dead".

Argue with Him if you like.
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and verse 11 says he was sleeping. I don't know if you do not understand this, but sleep means dead.
 
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I have. What reason would I have to dodge anything? I disagree with his messages that give the children of the kingdom the wrong mindset about salvation, which is alot of them.

However, Cor 15:50-56 is on point, and its from the original scrolls. His missionary journey he stole from Father Adam, who is the one who made the first missionary journey to the earth for Procreation to begin... His claim that he was in the third heaven he stole from Father Adam. He claimed he didn't know whether he was in the body or out it, but that is what Father Adam said regarding the time the GOD put him to sleep to take a rib from his body.

His quest to start the 7 churches, was also what Father Adam preached, talking about the the 7 Angels of the Churches Enoch, the first who he trained, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Apostle Peter and the 3rd Elijah. It was Father Adam that preached these messages in the earth. And his claim that to die is gain, but to live is Christ, is what Father Adam taught, about the fall of Man.

So I will reiterate... I accept the original scrolls.
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No scrolls of the Bible talk about any of this. This is some extra-biblical gnostic nonsense.
 
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No scrolls of the Bible talk about any of this. This is some extra-biblical gnostic nonsense.
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it is not. It is the truth. And you can blame those who put the bible together for why there are things that are not in it. For who gave them the authority, or the ability, or which Prophet led them in putting the bible together?
 
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Dino246 said:
Paul was never obligated to say everything that Jesus said, nor everything that anyone else said. Paul wrote what the Holy Spirit guided Paul to write, period. That it doesn't meet your requirements is irrelevant.
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My point was ,were does it say Paul wrote Hebrews ? But as an aside of course its appointed unto man ect ect .
 
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it is not. It is the truth. And you can blame those who put the bible together for why there are things that are not in it. For who gave them the authority, or the ability, or which Prophet led them in putting the bible together?
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Yahcubs777 are you Armenian?
 
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Yahcubs777 said:
it is not. It is the truth. And you can blame those who put the bible together for why there are things that are not in it. For who gave them the authority, or the ability, or which Prophet led them in putting the bible together?
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The Holy Spirit led them.
 
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Facepalm.
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It doesn't agree. One verse is saying everyone must die, (and ill remind you that enoch and Elijah never died), while the other is saying that no, not everyone will die.
 
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Ofc, i do.
So how does saying, everyone must die, and we shall not all sleep agree with each other?
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It is speaking a general truth, for 99,99% of humanity. The few exceptions would be those who are alive at the resurrection, who are then raptured, transformed into glorified bodies in a moment. Granted, one could say that is also a death of some sort, if you really wanted to a argue. I personally look at it as just a transformation so fast we won't even notice it coming.

I see you have already rejected the Bible and claim the people who put it together were making errors. I believe that yes humans make errors but I also believe God had His hand in the putting together of the Bible so even with human error, the right books are in there.
 
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It is speaking a general truth, for 99,99% of humanity. The few exceptions would be those who are alive at the resurrection, who are then raptured, transformed into glorified bodies in a moment. Granted, one could say that is also a death of some sort, if you really wanted to a argue. I personally look at it as just a transformation so fast we won't even notice it coming.

I see you have already rejected the Bible and claim the people who put it together were making errors. I believe that yes humans make errors but I also believe God had His hand in the putting together of the Bible so even with human error, the right books are in there.
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You can't be serious... The WORD of GOD is 100% true. This is a discrepancy, because one of them is what Paul said, the other is from the original scrolls
 
Kolistus

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Yahcubs777 said:
You can't be serious... The WORD of GOD is 100% true. This is a discrepancy, because one of them is what Paul said, the other is from the original scrolls
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Where can we find these original scrolls?
 
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Where can we find these original scrolls?
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They were stolen, when the church was hijacked, that is why there is the one who will restore all things, as Prophesied by Moses, and the Prophets, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence.
 
Kolistus

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They were stolen, when the church was hijacked, that is why there is the one who will restore all things, as Prophesied by Moses, and the Prophets, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence.
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You are talking about the original scrolls and what the say, yet now you are saying you don't have them.

In other words you are just making it up as you go along. I hope your weird cult doesn't have many members.
 
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