God wasn't going to have fallen and unfallen humans at the same time. If they hadn't fallen we would have been given a way to procreate.
Why does God allow suffering?
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The way to Procreate is not magic, it requires the kind of cells that can die. Without those cells it would be impossible. The GOD doesn't operate by trial and error, HE knew this was the only way it is possible. HIS plan of salvation is perfect, unalterable. What that fruit did is not make them mortal straight away, but caused the body to go through 4 stages of negative metamorphosis signposted as:
Glory - water - wine - blood.
This is why at a wedding, pointing to the wedding of Father Adam and Mother Eve, HE changed the water to wine. Then at the last supper, HE changed that Wine to blood, showing the negative metamorphosis. The blood cells is where it stopped, it did not go in the negative any further as that was the last stage of it.
Dude, ridiculous. You are either a member of this fallen condition or you are not. Satan was the first to sin. He started disorder in God's Kingdom. This place lets us be about ourselves ..to sin.
I think our journey here is one of learning to evolve the soul. This is not Gods realm it is Satan's therefore God is not responsible for all the suffering. God allows us to enter heaven when we die but I am not sure why we can not be born in heaven.
Lucifer is a tare cherub. Have you asked, if sin leads to death, then why is Lucifer immortal and has not died? Yet men, mortal men have been dying for millions of years. And even the fact that GOD said that the body HE coupled for Adam was in HIS image and after HIS likeness. No cherub or seraph, or angel body is made in the image and after the likeness of GOD.
So then why is Man mortal, and Cherubim, Seraphim, and And Angels are immortal?
Why can't angels die? Umm, does it matter?
We are like God in that we can think somewhat like Him.
I believe we are immortal souls that exist in a physical body. Therefore we don't die, we just alter our plain of existence
Cherubim and Seraphim are not angels. They are a completely different race with a different anatomy.
No man can enter into heaven without their Spirit, soul and body tact.
heaven is not a ghost world.
No, we do not think like HIM at all. No being can think like HIM. HE is unmatched. We as mortals are not like HIM at all.
However, Father Adam body was coupled to look exactly HIM before the fall.
It is agreed that our Lord gives wonderful gifts and abundance, that it is sin that opposes that. The moment Eve and Adam brought the sin into our world that brings on death and suffering, God gave us Christ as it is told in Leviticus telling us that it was through blood given on the altar that makes atonement for our soul.
It isn't just a matter of our stopping to sin, but a matter of accepting Christ with faith in Him and accepting Christ as part of us so we no longer want to sin.
Quantum Entanglement sure seems to behave exactly how I would expect becoming one with God to entail.
We are separated from God ..we are trying to become entangled again.
We are separated from God ..we are trying to become entangled again.
Paul's advice to us in the Body of Christ, with regards to suffering and how we should respond, can be found in Romans 8:18-25
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
This place is temporary. I get it. Bad things are going to happen because we are not directly connected to God ..yet.
Entanglement is God's Love. An interference pattern is showing us something impossible for this fallen reality. All possible paths being taken virtually at the same time.
God is the unobservable side of QM. The Universal Wave. The disorder of sin is the universal wave collapse.
Non-local Quantum waves are future possibilities of becoming fallen. God in the possibilities. Devil in the physical details. It is the good and evil of the tree of knowledge.
God is the unobservable side of QM. The Universal Wave. The disorder of sin is the universal wave collapse.
Non-local Quantum waves are future possibilities of becoming fallen. God in the possibilities. Devil in the physical details. It is the good and evil of the tree of knowledge.
Since many of us in the Body of Christ tend to be concerned about health issues, I will use that as an example.
To be precise, our bodies will be constantly breaking down because we are still waiting, with hope, for the redemption of our current bodies. Once our bodies are redeemed at the end, we will be "directly connected to God", as you have said.
Being independent from God means we have one future possible path that we control. It can be used for sin if we choose to. Being a member of this fallen reality causes us to decay and die. The relationship we have with God now will be our key to infinite peace. This place is an uncomfortable stop humans have to endure beforehand. I dream of the day satan won't be able to torment me anymore.
Being entangled with God will mean we are connected to Him. We will be at peace.
Were Adam and Eve entangled with God before the fall?
Were Adam and Eve entangled with God before the fall?