Can a demon be healed?

[CS1]

No, I am just understanding Matthew 24:24 literally. I don’t make it say anything else.

if you are going to use only one verse in Matthew chapter 24 verse 24, do you not then that for your position to be correct the Bible should say "Demons will do signs and wonders"? Instead of false prophets and false christ's which are in context to men?
Are demons prophets ? I agree there will be and has really been many false prophets men have claimed to be how much of a sign and wonder does it take to deceive?

Today there are lying scientist who perform pretty amazing things yet they do not fear God or acknowledge His existence .

I think there are many today millions who are already deceived.

 

[Guojing]

if you are going to use only one verse in Matthew chapter 24 verse 24, do you not then that for your position to be correct the Bible should say "Demons will do signs and wonders"? Instead of false prophets and false christ's which are in context to men?
Are demons prophets ? I agree there will be and has really been many false prophets men have claimed to be how much of a sign and wonder does it take to deceive?

Today there are lying scientist who perform pretty amazing things yet they do not fear God or acknowledge His existence .

I think there are many today millions who are already deceived.

You don’t believe during the tribulation there will be a counterfeit trinity, which comprise of the anti christ, the false prophet and the beast? It’s mentioned in revelation a few times.

Satan will be them for sure, and you don’t regard him as a demon?

 

[CS1]

You don’t believe during the tribulation there will be a counterfeit trinity, which comprise of the anti christ, the false prophet and the beast? It’s mentioned in revelation a few times.

Satan will be them for sure, and you don’t regard him as a demon?

Please remember that Matthew chapter 24 is not only speaking of the end of the age, but Jesus is also speaking of the common state of a sinful world while the Apsotles will be proclaming the Gospel message.


You will see the three question asked to Jesus inMatthew 24:3

Jesus very first response was in verse four-, eight he said:

4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.


Jesus is saying here the battle is life long until you see these things happen while you are preaching the Gospel Carry ON!

verse 24 Jesus is saying what He said in verse 4 " Do not be deceived".

Verse 25 says Jesus speaking " See, I have told you beforehand. "


I do not see Jesus mention once demons in chapter 24 yet we do know they are at work here through men. But there are also evil men,

 

[Edify]

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I thought the English construction in the KJV is clear enough, those great signs and wonders are shown by false Christs, and false prophets.

What exactly do you mean by "Great signs and wonders in context to the man who will be overtaken by the Anti-christ."?

Is it the same as what I have just stated, or are you making a different point?

Firstly, it would be common sense that a 'false christ' or a 'false prophet' would show false signs & wonders, yes?
Secondly, always search for other scriptures that speak on the same topic. Topical context.

2 thess. 2:9
New International Version
The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,

English Standard Version
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

King James Bible
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

New American Standard Bible
that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders,

 

[Guojing]

Firstly, it would be common sense that a 'false christ' or a 'false prophet' would show false signs & wonders, yes?
Secondly, always search for other scriptures that speak on the same topic. Topical context.

2 thess. 2:9
New International Version
The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,

English Standard Version
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

King James Bible
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

New American Standard Bible
that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders,

I wonder, Is healing that big of a deal that you guys insist on excluding from great signs and wonders?

For example, if the antichrist could part the oceans, like what God did to the Red Sea, would any of you have problems with that? What about calling fire down from the sky?

 

[Guojing]

Please remember that Matthew chapter 24 is not only speaking of the end of the age, but Jesus is also speaking of the common state of a sinful world while the Apsotles will be proclaming the Gospel message.


You will see the three question asked to Jesus inMatthew 24:3

Jesus very first response was in verse four-, eight he said:

4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.


Jesus is saying here the battle is life long until you see these things happen while you are preaching the Gospel Carry ON!

verse 24 Jesus is saying what He said in verse 4 " Do not be deceived".

Verse 25 says Jesus speaking " See, I have told you beforehand. "


I do not see Jesus mention once demons in chapter 24 yet we do know they are at work here through men. But there are also evil men,

My question was really simple, is it unreasonable to believe that satan is a false Christ? Isn’t he so jealous of God that he would copy anything God does, including stealing the concept of the trinity too?

 

[Benadam]

wonder, Is healing that big of a deal that you guys insist on excluding from great signs and wonders?

Satan holds the power of death so the power to cause illness. He can stop causing an illness and fake a healing. It will be the sick person's body healing not a supernatural healing. A supernatural healing will be instantaneous and complete. That's the difference between a false healing and a healing from God.

 

[Guojing]

Satan holds the power of death so the power to cause illness. He can stop causing an illness and fake a healing. It will be the sick person's body healing not a supernatural healing. A supernatural healing will be instantaneous and complete. That's the difference between a false healing and a healing from God.

So you do agree he can stop causing an illness, and thus the person is no longer ill right? Alright then, that was my point.

All healing on this earth is temporary anyway, the probability of death for all of us is still 100%.

We will only be permanently healed where we get our redeemed bodies, as Paul explained in Romans 8:18-25 and 1 Cor 15:51 onward.

 

[pottersclay]

The Sacred Scriptures teach that the angels were created in heaven. God is in heaven present to the angels. By this we know they rejected God in full knowledge of Him and freedom.

Absolutely....they are blasphemous.

 

[Benadam]

So you do agree he can stop causing an illness, and thus the person is no longer ill right? Alright then, that was my point.

All healing on this earth is temporary anyway, the probability of death for all of us is still 100%.

We will only be permanently healed where we get our redeemed bodies, as Paul explained in Romans 8:18-25 and 1 Cor 15:51 onward.

I do agree.

So you do agree he can stop causing an illness, and thus the person is no longer ill right? Alright then, that was my point.

All healing on this earth is temporary anyway, the probability of death for all of us is still 100%.

We will only be permanently healed where we get our redeemed bodies, as Paul explained in Romans 8:18-25 and 1 Cor 15:51 onward.

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So you do agree he can stop causing an illness, and thus the person is no longer ill right? Alright then, that was my point.

All healing on this earth is temporary anyway, the probability of death for all of us is still 100%.

We will only be permanently healed where we get our redeemed bodies, as Paul explained in Romans 8:18-25 and 1 Cor 15:51 onward.

Even Lazarus remained subject to corruption after Jesus raised him from the dead so....yeah. illness causes damage and demon's can't undo that. That requires creative power.

 

[CS1]

My question was really simple, is it unreasonable to believe that satan is a false Christ? Isn’t he so jealous of God that he would copy anything God does, including stealing the concept of the trinity too?

if you make the devil the same as your God, that is the assertion.

 

[CS1]

I do agree.@ Even Lazarus remained subject to corruption after Jesus raised him from the dead so....yeah. illness causes damage and demon's can't undo that. That requires creative power.

healing means return to the nature state. one can heal because God created the body to heal.

 

[Guojing]

if you make the devil the same as your God, that is the assertion.

I already said "false Christ" so your "if" is incorrect.

 

[Guojing]

I do agree.@ Even Lazarus remained subject to corruption after Jesus raised him from the dead so....yeah. illness causes damage and demon's can't undo that. That requires creative power.

Lazarus was raised from the dead as one of the 8 signs that was given to Israel (John 20:30-31), but yes, he died again after that so that healing, even by Jesus himself, was not 100%.

 

[Benadam]

healing means return to the nature state. one can heal because God created the body to heal.

Good point.
Satan will use natural powers created by God to manifest lying signs and wonders.

 

[Benadam]

Lazarus was raised from the dead as one of the 8 signs that was given to Israel (John 20:30-31), but yes, he died again after that so that healing, even by Jesus himself, was not 100%.

I think that's true. Jesus didn't heal his wounded nature but restored life to his body. That being so, as it was good for Adam it is for Lazarus to not live forever.

 

[p_rehbein]

Just my opinion, however I believe that demons are not/nor were they ever human beings. That being said, even as a type of species on their own, I would think that the statements found in the 1st Chapter of Romans would apply to demons as well as humans who have gone far too far to be within the Grace of God......

24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Demons are so evil that God has given them up to their evilness, and salvation is not in their future, nor will it ever be........

Now, that is just my thoughts

 

[jb]

Jesus cast out many demons from people but can a demon itself ever be healed? Is there any instance where a demon turned back to God and reformed?

You can find a bit of a study Here on demons...

 

[Guojing]

I think that's true. Jesus didn't heal his wounded nature but restored life to his body. That being so, as it was good for Adam it is for Lazarus to not live forever.

As I said, Lazarus resurrection was meant to be a sign to Israel. That is why churches like Bethel failed in their #WakeupOlive when they tried to use that same passage to justify their attempt to resurrect Olive.

 

[Edify]

As I said, Lazarus resurrection was meant to be a sign to Israel. That is why churches like Bethel failed in their #WakeupOlive when they tried to use that same passage to justify their attempt to resurrect Olive.

No, the reason Bethel failed is because they're a cult that twists scripture for their doctrine.
The fact you didn't know that says volumes.