The truth about Christianity is hidden from the world

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Runningman said:
Actually one of Jesus's main messages was enduring hardships, persecution, and tribulation. I don't recall any feel good sermons about being delivered from all of life's calamities. I remember a lot teachings about keeping our eyes on the Son of God with faith to endure until the end.

Not really sure who your message is to. We also have the Bible so we've read these things. I don't think anyone is going to throw you out of here for holding those views.
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How are you going to get those hardships? You think just saying you are christian to the world is enough? No. Because you are of the world and you speak like it. If you will follow Jesus then you must give up your life and not care for the things of man, but only for the things of God. Keeping all the hundreds of commandments is the only way to heaven, Jesus said it, the god of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob said it and they both do not change. What more do you need? You are going to hell if you do not accept the possibility that you could be wrong about everything. You definitely will.
 
Dino246 said:
That would require you being teachable.
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Where is the error in my teachings? Point it out using scripture only, because I cannot trust you. You are a man and nothing more. There is no truth in man but there is truth in the word of God so go ahead
 
NathanJA said:
Where is the error in my teachings? Point it out using scripture only, because I cannot trust you. You are a man and nothing more. There is no truth in man but there is truth in the word of God so go ahead
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The error is in your rejection of Scripture. Christians believe that the writings of the apostles are Scripture.

1 Peter 3:15-16 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

By saying, "the other Scriptures", Peter here includes Paul's writings with Scripture.
 
1ofthem said:
I think you may have ran into the word of faith or prosperity gospel people. I don't know anyone personally who thinks they will never have to suffer in this life. I mean the Bible says we must suffer to reign with him. So yeah, I get ya...but that also doesn't mean that we are to just expect to have the worst life ever, and always be in pain or unhappy. God is still merciful and prayer does still change things, but yeah, there is suffering involved in this world as well. We are instructed to arm ourselves as a good soldier and fight the good fight.

Yeah, there is sufferings but there is also blessings from God. We can still be joyous in the Lord no matter what happens in life.
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>but that also doesn't mean that we are to just expect to have the worst life ever, and always be in pain or unhappy.

Give me scripture. You are a man and you fabricate things as if you are God himself. Prove what you say.
 
Job, however, DID admit to speaking presumptuously about God and repented "in dust and ashes" as a result.

After God had confronted him about his short-sightedness. (cf. Job 38 and following).
 
NathanJA said:
How are you going to get those hardships? You think just saying you are christian to the world is enough? No. Because you are of the world and you speak like it. If you will follow Jesus then you must give up your life and not care for the things of man, but only for the things of God. Keeping all the hundreds of commandments is the only way to heaven, Jesus said it, the god of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob said it and they both do not change. What more do you need? You are going to hell if you do not accept the possibility that you could be wrong about everything. You definitely will.
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You seem to have missed the prophet's announcements (before Jesus) about the New Covenant.
If you want to keep all the commandments of the Mosaic Covenant you had better be Jewish and living in Israel.
 
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Dino246 said:
The error is in your rejection of Scripture. Christians believe that the writings of the apostles are Scripture.
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I don't care what "christians" believe. They are not followers of Jesus if they are seduced from keeping the commandments (Deuteronomy 13, Deuteronomy 6:25, Deuteronomy 4:2) and if they believe that Paul is of God. Paul is so obviously false. He has not taught ONE THING at all. He has taught NOTHING. He is a blind guide leading the blind. He has only made his own laws like making women be silent, cutting your hair if you are a man and not feeding the hungry unless they will work.

You cannot hear me when I say he's false because you can't accept my message. You are of your father the devil, you hate the truth and cannot come to it. You cherish your sinful life and this world. You are wise in your own eyes and stiffnecked, unable to accept reproof.
 
Lucy-Pevensie said:
You seem to have missed the prophet's announcements (before Jesus) about the New Covenant.
If you want to keep all the commandments of the Mosaic Covenant you had better be Jewish and living in Israel.
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The new covenant just means that the law is more strict. Also you know what I meant. There are over 100 important commandments that everyone must follow. Not just 10. 10 are the fundamental commandments
 
NathanJA said:
I don't care what "christians" believe. They are not followers of Jesus if they are seduced from keeping the commandments (Deuteronomy 13, Deuteronomy 6:25, Deuteronomy 4:2) and if they believe that Paul is of God. Paul is so obviously false. He has not taught ONE THING at all. He has taught NOTHING. He is a blind guide leading the blind. He has only made his own laws like making women be silent, cutting your hair if you are a man and not feeding the hungry unless they will work.

You cannot hear me when I say he's false because you can't accept my message. You are of your father the devil, you hate the truth and cannot come to it. You cherish your sinful life and this world. You are wise in your own eyes and stiffnecked, unable to accept reproof.
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Yawn. Your time here will be short. Hopefully Jesus will have mercy on you and grant you repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth.
 
NotmebutHim said:
Job, however, DID admit to speaking presumptuously about God and repented "in dust and ashes" as a result.

After God had confronted him about his short-sightedness. (cf. Job 38 and following).
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Job repented because he was complaining about his creator, not because he has committed sin
 
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