Must we repent in order to be forgiven?

[Magenta]

Interpretation of scripture is subject to how men read and understand them. There were divisions since the beginning of Christianity and the apostles warned their followers of those who would seek to draw followers to themselves and not continue in the harmony of the gospel and the power of the Spirit.

John 10:27-28

 

[throughfaith]

Yes when God determines I have born enough fruit

So we're all waiting on you before Jesus can return

It has everything to do with walking with God until he decides we are ready to be harvested.

Sounds like you think you have to earn enough to merit your entrance into heaven ?

 

[throughfaith]

OSAS will have you believe God hasn't given man the ability to choose to believe the gospel or reject the Gospel. They also will say you don't have a choice to follow God once you believe, or choose to turn from Him once you have accepted. It is a false doctrine from hell itself.

Your conflating Eternal security with the false teaching called Calvinism.

 

[throughfaith]

OSAS will have you believe God hasn't given man the ability to choose to believe the gospel or reject the Gospel. They also will say you don't have a choice to follow God once you believe, or choose to turn from Him once you have accepted. It is a false doctrine from hell itself.

Calvinisms version of Eternal security is a deception thats closer to what you believe when you scratch the surface .

 

[david-a-servant]

Which verse says this ?

" Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. "

"Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest."

We are to bear fruit so we might be harvested

 

[david-a-servant]

Calvinisms version of Eternal security is a deception thats closer to what you believe when you scratch the surface .

Calvinism uses the exact scriptures that you use, and in the same context. You may not like the label, but you are a Calvinist

 

[Magenta]

It has everything to do with walking with God until he decides we are ready to be harvested.

Jesus refers to the harvest of people who are ready to believe and be gathered into the kingdom (Matthew 9:38).

Therefore, it would seem they were not "walking with God" before being harvested.

 

[throughfaith]

Calvinism uses the exact scriptures that you use, and in the same context. You may not like the label, but you are a Calvinist

lol 😆 Thats priceless . You've obviously not read any of my posts .

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

There will be those that will beheaded during the tribulation. Not the Church. There is no Church mentioned after Rev 4 .

The bolded part: A slogan repeated ad nauseum which means nothing.

Please explain how those beheaded during the tribulation are not part of the body of Christ.
And how saved Israel is not part of the body of Christ.

The book is written to the Church. To help the Church endure the things that must soon take place. Rev 1:1
Jesus addresses the Church directly in Rev 22:16

 

[david-a-servant]

lol 😆 Thats priceless . You've obviously not read any of my posts .

this link might help you understand who you are really following
https://daytonfellowship.wixsite.com/the-exegesis/calvinism

 

[david-a-servant]

Jesus refers to the harvest of people who are ready to believe and be gathered into the kingdom (Matthew 9:38).

Therefore, it would seem they were not "walking with God" before being harvested.

If my use of the word "harvest" is too confusing for you, let me reconstruct what I said. We walk with God if we are true believers until he decides we are to leave this world. if youre not walking with God, youre not his.

 

[Magenta]

If my use of the word "harvest" is too confusing for you, let me reconstruct what I said. We walk with God if we are true believers until he decides we are to leave this world. if youre not walking with God, youre not his.

Clearly you are confused. Jesus identified the harvest. It is not what you said.

 

[david-a-servant]

Clearly you are confused. Jesus identified the harvest. It is not what you said.

I said in order for you to understand I would reconstruct what I said. Are you inferring God has not taken any believers from the earth to this point?

 

[Magenta]

I said in order for you to understand I would reconstruct what I said. Are you inferring God has not taken any believers from the earth to this point?

My understanding aligns with what Jesus said. Yours does not.

 

[david-a-servant]

My understanding aligns with what Jesus said. Yours does not.

I'll just assume you don't have an answer to the question asking if God has taken anyone from the earth to this point

 

[throughfaith]

this link might help you understand who you are really following
https://daytonfellowship.wixsite.com/the-exegesis/calvinism

Again ,check my posts out. Your way off the mark here. I argue against Calvinism and Arminsim ,and cults .

 

[throughfaith]

I said in order for you to understand I would reconstruct what I said. Are you inferring God has not taken any believers from the earth to this point?

Physically no . Rom 8.23 ..but could you explain Eph 2.6 please ?

 

[david-a-servant]

Physically no . Rom 8.23 ..but could you explain Eph 2.6 please ?

Do you know of anyone in your church who has died in the last 30 years?

 

[throughfaith]

Do you know of anyone in your church who has died in the last 30 years?

Of course .

 

[Magenta]

I'll just assume you don't have an answer to the question asking if God has taken anyone from the earth to this point

Your assumptions have been shown to be wrong