Leftist Thinking Is The Most Destructive Element In Existence

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I understand and concur phoneman. How it is NOT obvious to all, simply put, confounds me.

Socialism, is the number one killer of all time. Remember what "comrade" Lenin had to say about socialism.
Most people don't realize that in Marx's "Communist Manifesto", he writes that once the Socialists have seized all the guns, wealth, and rights of citizens in a Capitalist society, they are supposed to STEP DOWN FROM POWER (anyone who doesn't believe me can read it for themselves) STEP DOWN FROM POWER and join in with the new, glorious communal society where all goods are common, all labor is common, and control of everything is held in common by all people in this great, glorious Communist paradise.

The problem is that when these ideological Socialist freedom fighters get a taste of the bacon-wrapped shrimp parties, something short circuits in their brains and they immediately decide that staying in power is what is best "for the good of the people" -- and protecting that power becomes priority number one. And since they have all the guns and money, they are unstoppable. Anyone deemed a threat to that power gets to take a dirt nap in a mass graveyard.

And leftists are too stupid and selfish to comprehend any of this until the last thing that goes through their brain -- other than a soldier of the State's bullet -- is the thought that maybe the Capitalists were right after all.
 

GaryA

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You make some good points, but your post is hindered by your narrow focus on American examples. You also did not clearly define what "Leftist thinking" is, while vigorously decrying it.
It is the opposite of 'Right' thinking...
 
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Regarding science, in the past, members of the atheistic scientific community admitted their motivation to erase God through (false) science had to do with God "getting in the way of our hedonistic desires" - so, disprove the existence of God, then with a clear conscious pursue whatever depraved, licentious desire you fancy. Did you know the "father of Artificial Intelligence", Marvin Minsky, was on Jeffery Epstein's "Lolita Express" flight logs?
The question of atheism and theism doesn't belong in the scientific community. The question of God usually isn't a scientific question.

Regarding social issues, the left continually seeks to place blame for the lack of economic, educational, and societal success of certain minorities in the U.S. squarely on the shoulders of Anglo-Americans, refusing to allow as a point of discussion the absolute, undeniable, well documented root cause of these failures: the destruction of the minority family unit through government welfare dependency programs, the architects of which being the leftists themselves.
The question is where is the money: who benefits from this chaos and confusion? It is far too easy to paint blame on groups of ideologues without seeing who is pulling the strings. Who floods the media with these thoughts and ideas? The fulcrum of power lays with the puppet masters.

Regarding religion, leftist thinking has replaced the Biblical axioms of "Speak, Lord; for thy servant heareth" and "not My will by Thy will" with endless rounds of rationalism, higher criticism, sympathy toward existentialism, situation ethics - every mechanism you can dream of in order to question what is plainly stated in the Word of God, often resulting in interpretations that are the antithesis of what God originally said.
I'm not familiar with this. I see a passage from 1 Samuel 3:10, but don't understand the context of what you say. I personally see rationalism, critical thinking, pragmatism, utilitarianism, and philosophical stoicism as valuable things that represent culture and history passed down from our mothers and fathers. We honour them by partaking in these legacies. Honour thy mother and father.

Critical thinking and situational ethics were also a cultural tradition of Jesus, as a Israelite teacher under the Sanhedrin / Talmudic Law. https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud

The modern Talmud is a collection of texts which unfortunately includes hateful and spiteful antichristian texts written after Jesus' resurrection. But within the modern Talmud are older elements which Jesus alludes to including what is meant by "drawing from a well" when he refers to drawing an ass from a well, the meaning of goyim (non-Israelites) as animals, the Talmudic use of wine, etc. There are rabbis in the Talmudic scripture that rationalise and argue back and forth over interpretations (a common format in some of the text) and leave some topic with room for some personal interpretation. Jesus' message in the Holy Bible was partly to dispute interpretations and implementations of the rules of the Old Covenant and Mosaic Law. The Covenant of the New Testament is a correction to the corrupted interpretations of the Law of the Old Testament. Bible study isn't always as easy as finding an Old Testament passage in isolation and assuming the context is obvious. Even the Mosaic Ten Commandments were revised in the New Testament with more context brought to light (including what "neighbour" means through the Parable of the Good Samaritan).

Alas, the problem of leftist thinking will ever be with us as "the wheat and tares grow together" - and we must pray for patience in dealing with Christian leftists, lest we uproot them and bring upon ourselves the displeasure of a God Who loves them as much as He loves anyone else. It's easy to love the truth...the challenge we must face and overcome is to love the brethren.
Remember to have love, patience, and compassion for yourself as well. This is important for the second commandment "...Love thy neighbour as thyself." - Mat 22:39
 

oyster67

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The Most Destructive Element In Existence
is pride. There is plenty of it on both sides of the aisle.
 

Nehemiah6

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It is the opposite of 'Right' thinking...
Correct. Everything that right, righteous, moral, just, and beneficial is replaced by THE EXACT OPPOSITE in Leftist thinking. It is pure evil and perversion of all that is good. The book 1984 by George Orwell described this Orwellian situation quite well.

Totalitarianism will now be established in America. There are already "Thought Police" at work. Society is already tightly controlled under the COVID restrictions. Government surveillance is a fact of life. Encouraging family members to snitch on each other has become official policy. And DoubleSpeak has been around for the last two decades (if not longer).
 

jb

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No matter if the topic at hand has to do with politics, science, education, social issues, or religion, Leftism is like a destructive, malignant cancer that spreads throughout these arenas of ideas, infecting both spectators and participants with deadly consequences.

Regarding politics, one need look no further than the events of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election - what an absolute destruction of all that is Constitutional and lawful. Congress, the Judiciary, and every single alphabet agency has been exposed as either sympathetic to - or too cowardly to resist - the tyranny of communism, the ultimate leftist ideology.

Regarding science, in the past, members of the atheistic scientific community admitted their motivation to erase God through (false) science had to do with God "getting in the way of our hedonistic desires" - so, disprove the existence of God, then with a clear conscious pursue whatever depraved, licentious desire you fancy. Did you know the "father of Artificial Intelligence", Marvin Minsky, was on Jeffery Epstein's "Lolita Express" flight logs?

Regarding education, leftists have taken control of education at every level and have eradicated the teaching of Civics and replaced it with Social Justice, Liberation Theology, 1619 Project, etc., all based on distorted facts/outright lies about history, economics, political agendas, and the development of the U.S. and its contribution to modern society.

Regarding social issues, the left continually seeks to place blame for the lack of economic, educational, and societal success of certain minorities in the U.S. squarely on the shoulders of Anglo-Americans, refusing to allow as a point of discussion the absolute, undeniable, well documented root cause of these failures: the destruction of the minority family unit through government welfare dependency programs, the architects of which being the leftists themselves.

Regarding religion, leftist thinking has replaced the Biblical axioms of "Speak, Lord; for thy servant heareth" and "not My will by Thy will" with endless rounds of rationalism, higher criticism, sympathy toward existentialism, situation ethics - every mechanism you can dream of in order to question what is plainly stated in the Word of God, often resulting in interpretations that are the antithesis of what God originally said.

Alas, the problem of leftist thinking will ever be with us as "the wheat and tares grow together" - and we must pray for patience in dealing with Christian leftists, lest we uproot them and bring upon ourselves the displeasure of a God Who loves them as much as He loves anyone else. It's easy to love the truth...the challenge we must face and overcome is to love the brethren.
Wrong forum to have such a thread in, "Miscellaneous" would be more appropriate...
 

posthuman

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** searching for the Bible discussion in this thread **


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Nehemiah6

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** searching for the Bible discussion in this thread **
Paul prophesied about this time, which will lead to the reign of the Antichrist. People should note the word "traitors" below and connect it to the unprecedented treachery which has just occurred in America.

2 TIMOTHY 3: "PERILOUS TIMES" WITH EVIL MEN IN GOVERNMENT
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away...
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
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But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
 

Nehemiah6

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Like people trying to overthrow the government and spreading seditious speech as tho in the name of God?
1. The government was overthrown on November 3 by the Democrats.
2. The Leftists sent out a torrent of seditious speech on January 6 and tried to shut down any speech which challenged their lies.

You should have clarified those details for the edification of everyone.

Since November 2016 (or even before) a seditious and treasonous coup d'etat was hatched against a legally and duly elected President. That coup continued for four years under various guises, until the government was overthrown when Trump's election victory was literally STOLEN out from under him on November 3-4. Which means that Biden and Harris should be arrested today and locked up.

Then a torrent of lies went out through the MSM from both the Left and the Right alleging that Trump had "incited riots". That was a total lie, but was used as a club to impeach him. He was never given due process at any time. This is the THIRD BOGUS IMPEACHMENT of a man who worked extremely hard for the ordinary citizens, not the globalist elites.
 

posthuman

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seditious and treasonous

it's time to set aside all those lies dude. the election was fair. dozens of court rulings and recounts have established that.
the former president is not exactly known for telling the truth.


put away all this deceit, and if you're going to post in the BDF, please put aside all this worldliness, and discuss the Bible. heavenly things. true things. things of Christ. are we not Christians?
 
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The question of atheism and theism doesn't belong in the scientific community. The question of God usually isn't a scientific question.



The question is where is the money: who benefits from this chaos and confusion? It is far too easy to paint blame on groups of ideologues without seeing who is pulling the strings. Who floods the media with these thoughts and ideas? The fulcrum of power lays with the puppet masters.



I'm not familiar with this. I see a passage from 1 Samuel 3:10, but don't understand the context of what you say. I personally see rationalism, critical thinking, pragmatism, utilitarianism, and philosophical stoicism as valuable things that represent culture and history passed down from our mothers and fathers. We honour them by partaking in these legacies. Honour thy mother and father.

Critical thinking and situational ethics were also a cultural tradition of Jesus, as a Israelite teacher under the Sanhedrin / Talmudic Law. https://www.sefaria.org/texts/Talmud

The modern Talmud is a collection of texts which unfortunately includes hateful and spiteful antichristian texts written after Jesus' resurrection. But within the modern Talmud are older elements which Jesus alludes to including what is meant by "drawing from a well" when he refers to drawing an ass from a well, the meaning of goyim (non-Israelites) as animals, the Talmudic use of wine, etc. There are rabbis in the Talmudic scripture that rationalise and argue back and forth over interpretations (a common format in some of the text) and leave some topic with room for some personal interpretation. Jesus' message in the Holy Bible was partly to dispute interpretations and implementations of the rules of the Old Covenant and Mosaic Law. The Covenant of the New Testament is a correction to the corrupted interpretations of the Law of the Old Testament. Bible study isn't always as easy as finding an Old Testament passage in isolation and assuming the context is obvious. Even the Mosaic Ten Commandments were revised in the New Testament with more context brought to light (including what "neighbour" means through the Parable of the Good Samaritan).



Remember to have love, patience, and compassion for yourself as well. This is important for the second commandment "...Love thy neighbour as thyself." - Mat 22:39
Hi, thanks for your response.

I don't see how you can claim science should exclude God...He spoke everything into existence, including the laws of science.

Rationalism and the other areas of thinking do have their place, but when such reasoning is exalted above a plain "thus saith the Lord" or prophetic revelation to us as in the case of boy Samuel, it becomes idolatry - the wisdom of men is foolishness with God, according to Scripture.

Situation Ethics is was never practiced by Jesus - He never once deviated from legit commandments or principles, according to John 15:10 KJV. The only "commandments" He is ever seen disregarding are the meaningless traditions of Jewish leaders. Today, the Catholic church has legitimized the disregard of every single one of the Ten Commandments through various encyclicals, including their claim that "all goods are common" and that if one is in lack, he may take from him who has abundance...even going so far as to say that if I see one in lack, I may take from the one in abundance to succor the need of the one in lack. Of course, the Bible says plainly not to steal.
 
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Wrong forum to have such a thread in, "Miscellaneous" would be more appropriate...
Maybe...I did however include a section about how destructive leftist thinking is to the Christian community, though.
 
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You make some good points, but your post is hindered by your narrow focus on American examples. You also did not clearly define what "Leftist thinking" is, while vigorously decrying it.
Start with the killing of 65 million babies...do u need more? If u do then u r a leftist.
 

Dino246

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Start with the killing of 65 million babies...do u need more? If u do then u r a leftist.
I cannot muster any respect for someone who insults others without making any effort to understand them.
 
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I cannot muster any respect for someone who insults others without making any effort to understand them.

A typical leftist transference.

If you are understood ....well, change your values...that will help.