Civil war coming to America?

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In the event of a coup or a takeover, would you take up arms to restore lawful authority to America?

  • Yes. I would take up arms until every last traitor was rounded up and put on trial.

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Yes, but in a limited manner. I would take up arms to protect my community from traitors.

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • No, I would not take up arms, unless my family was directly threatened.

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • No, I would not take up arms. All forms of killing are sin.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Other. The above actions do not properly describe the action I would take.

    Votes: 15 51.7%

  • Total voters
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I’ll try to watch it later, thanks for sharing.
Forced masks, forced this and that... If i was the leader i would force everyone to watch and hear this lecture...

People will then be given a PCR (personal compliance removal) test...
If they pass, it is a clear sign the Holy Spirit is in them and they can go into society...

People that answer with any socialist answers will remain in quarantine with the TV on all the time with Yuri Bezmanov drumming in the facts, truth, prophecies and revelations... Yuri will be speaking non stop 24/7 even while u sleep, until the brainwashed brain washes out all the lies...

Only when they pass the test will we know their ready... Ready for a deeper purging of lies deep in the brain... Another 2 weeks in quarantine... With non stop presentation of facts from all kinds of experts...

One must show that the Holy Spirit is in them to be a part of my society...
The others are in the gulag... To dangerous to society
 

Jim62

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"Evidence" presented in over 60 cases says otherwise. Trump and and his GOP enablers are spreading lies and disinformation.

What you have is a sore loser in Chief.
You keep on watching
"Evidence" presented in over 60 cases says otherwise. Trump and and his GOP enablers are spreading lies and disinformation.

What you have is a sore loser in Chief.
Obviously you believe the lies of the left and are here to spread them. So be it, keep on lying to yourself.
 

Moses_Young

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I doing the opposite. Away from government. On the road in a van turned camper.. Where to? I don't know yet...
The only dependence i have is medication for high blood pressure. I think when i become more active in the bush, fishing, biking, hiking, all that i'll get fitter again and the blood pressure will drop hopefully... ;)... Maybe even get my six pack again...;)
Have you tried Mg for your high blood pressure? If it helps, it may have fewer side effects.

I am more and more convinced that Trump is going to kick some Communist butt come the 20th January. If the shackles of Communism fall in the US, they will likewise fall across the world. It might appear good, but don't be deceived, as some have warned this may be a time for the mark of the Beast also. Debt cancellation, gaoling of the corrupt judges, exposure of the treasonous politicians and devil-worshipping media etc. - the end of some of those evils you talked about (such as overpriced land). But there may be a deceptive catch. I guess we start to find out on the 21st, whether the world collapses into tyrannical Communism, or the Communist beast is replaced with something else. :)
 

calibob

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You keep on watching


Obviously you believe the lies of the left and are here to spread them. So be it, keep on lying to yourself.
Stop! Don't drink any more Kool-Aid. Both sides are evil and DC is becoming the new Jonestown. The Government nor either party will save us. Their both in league with Lucifer.
 

Dude653

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Here is an example.. Sexuality...
The generation before me were strictly no divorce.
Then the Marxist in the schools persuaded the next generation that its oppressive, so then sex outside marriage became acceptable and divorce became acceptable...
The next gen, millenials now with schools full of socialists, accepted gays, transgender..
Whats next... Necrophilia, why not, not harming anyone... Zoophilia, why not, love is love

Each generation being indoctrinated further and further from Gods will

The family unit is soo vital and a mothers job is the most precious thing sometimes us guys get are envious at the special relationship she has with her child... For that child to grow the mother must be there... Well they convinced women that satisfation is were men are, working their guts out... In the 50s hardly no women chose to work.. They had a choice and they chose to ruloe the home, raise the kids... Now the mother must work abd the kids over to the state...
Your logical fallacy is called slippery slope
also I'm pretty sure divorce has always been a thing.
look in the old testament, if you decide you don't want your wife anymore you just have to write her a letter of dismissal
Also in today's economy one income is often not enough to pay the bills and put food on the table which is why the women are also entering the workforce
 

Moses_Young

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Also in today's economy one income is often not enough to pay the bills and put food on the table which is why the women are also entering the workforce
One income was enough until women entered the workforce. Greater supply (of labour), lesser demand, and salaries were halved. By design.
 

iamsoandso

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Stop! Don't drink any more Kool-Aid. Both sides are evil and DC is becoming the new Jonestown. The Government nor either party will save us. Their both in league with Lucifer.
Yep Christians live in Cuba,they lived in Rome back in the 1st century,They lived in Germany in ww2 they live in China,,,they lived in every nation under every king and the Lord watched over them,,, "we have a king who will never leave office".
 

CS1

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Here is an example.. Sexuality...
The generation before me were strictly no divorce.
Then the Marxist in the schools persuaded the next generation that its oppressive, so then sex outside marriage became acceptable and divorce became acceptable...
The next gen, millenials now with schools full of socialists, accepted gays, transgender..
Whats next... Necrophilia, why not, not harming anyone... Zoophilia, why not, love is love

Each generation being indoctrinated further and further from Gods will

The family unit is soo vital and a mothers job is the most precious thing sometimes us guys get are envious at the special relationship she has with her child... For that child to grow the mother must be there... Well they convinced women that satisfation is were men are, working their guts out... In the 50s hardly no women chose to work.. They had a choice and they chose to ruloe the home, raise the kids... Now the mother must work abd the kids over to the state...
that is because sin will produce death it can be a fast one or a long drawn out slow death.

perversion will never be satisfied. it will continue to spiral down into more degradation. It will not stop. Sin left unchecked will consume all just as it did Sodom and the generation in Noah's day. Without a move of God brought on by the people of God, we are done period. We have almost entered into the point of no return. Many Good men of God believe we have already. IF you are not praying earnestly, you and I are in error.
 

Smoke

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Your logical fallacy is called slippery slope
also I'm pretty sure divorce has always been a thing.
look in the old testament, if you decide you don't want your wife anymore you just have to write her a letter of dismissal
Also in today's economy one income is often not enough to pay the bills and put food on the table which is why the women are also entering the workforce
Up until yesterday, I just assumed (not giving it much thought) that women started to work more because the cost of living was getting higher and higher and it is difficult for a single income home. But then iamsoandso made a point about how as a result of the feminist movement and other factors which pushed women to want to be independent and get in the workforce as opposed to just staying at home which ultimately increased the pool of workers, thereby decreasing the demand for workers.

I think it's possible it's both the cost of living increase in addition to the increase in the pool of workers which has made it difficult for single income homes.

I'm curious your thoughts on this.
 
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The civil war that came and went and destroyed lives to prop up one's man's ego, delusion and lies.



Poor grandma, she has no problem parsing out the blame where it belongs.

"thank you Mr. Trump for inviting him to a riot"
 

calibob

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that is because sin will produce death it can be a fast one or a long drawn out slow death.

perversion will never be satisfied. it will continue to spiral down into more degradation. It will not stop. Sin left unchecked will consume all just as it did Sodom and the generation in Noah's day. Without a move of God brought on by the people of God, we are done period. We have almost entered into the point of no return. Many Good men of God believe we have already. IF you are not praying earnestly, you and I are in error.
I concur however since our lives in flesh are temporary and we are no longer of this world but merely messengers of the Cross. I think we should concentrate on spreading the Gospel of salvation. The book of revelations is finished and nothing can be added, taken away or changed. The state of the entire world is in a death spiral. Thus we should be of good cheer. Soon we'll be singing Hosanna's for a thousand years. Let's concentrate on inviting others to our celebration to come. We already know what's going to happen. The Devil and all of the worldly people lose. Through and with Jesus we win.

I've been close enough to death's door to realize that worrying won't change a thing. So I spread the Gospel in the hospital when the Chaplin was forbidden to come.
 

Lisamn

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Okay I'm no threat to anyone anyway so maybe it's best if I'm who points this out. I really meant what I said in post #175 about this being Gods choosing and I am not going to be any part of any type violence anyway. I have always respected the authorities and see them as my fellow citizens who we hired to watch out for our well being and if any of them are watching "thank you for watching out for us".

That said I would caution any of you who are tempted to be led into thinking you are in safe hands by those bragging about "thousands of rounds of..." because it only proves that they are amateurs who are talking a big line of smoke in the first place and so the real military and authorities probably roll on the floor laughing when they see post like that. Why is that they know for a fact that 20 rounds weigh 14 ounces and 5 clips is 100 rounds(so your talking 10 guys per 1000 carrying about 5 pounds in their pockets).

I know this because I hunted for many years and ammo is "you guessed it lead" and it weighs more than you think. Other than that I have and will always follow the law like is in Romans 13(because Jesus said to) and if they check me out I have never been in trouble not even a speeding ticket. So in short there's the guys bragging about the thousands of rounds and there's the real military/feds ect. who travel with "millions of rounds" because they actually know whats real. Past that all I can do is caution people over the ones bragging and point out whats real.
I’m not bragging about thousands of rounds...I’m just stating a fact. And also the fact that many, many Americans own guns. That to me is something to consider....people won’t be easy to control in America when they still own guns as opposed to the rest of the world who are under their governments thumbs. I am not predicting a civil war per se...but millions of armed Americans means something rather than nothing in my estimation.
 

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The tactic is called subversion. No shots are fired. It takes decades... U have to see the film to know what i mean

But even if the wrong person seizes power what are going to do against the American military with that?
I think its been subversion since man fell honestly...

Idk...I just don’t think you can write off millions of Americans with guns armed to the teeth is all I’m saying.

look i know medieval battles where an army was outnumbered and won a battle... But not a whole war
Its hard to know what can happen or go on. Does the army want to shoot at fellow Americans though?

After WW2 every country in Europe was devestated had nothing. But the soviets still had some and marched in these countries that knew they were out gunned... Rome didn't fall in battle either
I thought they got those countries after the war because of deals made.

Is that a joke or.. Im not saying there is a civil war.. Not fighting as in guns
Im saying there is a great division and in fighting trump supporters vs the radical left
Is that the division that the msm says there is...or is there actual division? I just don’t see it where I live.

No im disconecting from the matrix. Less government better... Im gonna be a nomad... A combination of bush life and small town. Leave this state cos its a Chinese province...
Work a bit here relax a bit here. Im very resourceful now too. I had this in mind even b4 covid...
We're sucked in to work our whole life only to enjoy the last few years... Stuff that. I work to live, not live to work.
O..ok. I just thought you might have meant suicide or something and was hoping that wasn’t what you meant. :)

I doing the opposite. Away from government. On the road in a van turned camper.. Where to? I don't know yet...
The only dependence i have is medication for high blood pressure. I think when i become more active in the bush, fishing, biking, hiking, all that i'll get fitter again and the blood pressure will drop hopefully... ;)... Maybe even get my six pack again...;)
They say getting in shape helps anyway. Good luck!
 

Lisamn

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Forced masks, forced this and that... If i was the leader i would force everyone to watch and hear this lecture...

People will then be given a PCR (personal compliance removal) test...
If they pass, it is a clear sign the Holy Spirit is in them and they can go into society...

People that answer with any socialist answers will remain in quarantine with the TV on all the time with Yuri Bezmanov drumming in the facts, truth, prophecies and revelations... Yuri will be speaking non stop 24/7 even while u sleep, until the brainwashed brain washes out all the lies...

Only when they pass the test will we know their ready... Ready for a deeper purging of lies deep in the brain... Another 2 weeks in quarantine... With non stop presentation of facts from all kinds of experts...

One must show that the Holy Spirit is in them to be a part of my society...
The others are in the gulag... To dangerous to society
Good thing you aren’t a leader then...I don’t think that’s a good way to handle things honestly. You can’t force anyone to do anything...God doesn’t and neither should we. We try to talk to people about the truth and pray God will open their eyes..that’s how it works.
 

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As an interested onlooker into American politics, it seems to me that every trick in the book is being tried to depose what seems to be legitimately elected leaders (primarily Donald Trump, but other leaders also).

One thing I admire about America's political system is its Second Amendment - the right and responsibility of the citizens to hold the government to account, via the use of force if necessary, if the government starts to act illegally.

However, as Christians, whose kingdom and true King are not of this world, in the event of a political coup by the popular Communist party, or an assassination, or false flag nuclear attack, or some other underhanded tactic, would it be better to let the world deal with the affairs of the world, or as citizens of America, would it be best to fulfill one's responsibilities to restore lawful government to the country?

I ask, because many of the members of the opposing party (e.g. Hillary Clinton), are clearly non-Christians, and would likely go to an eternity in hell were they to die in any coup attempt or subsequent civil war. However, the bible clearly states in Romans that the government of a country does not bear the sword in vain, so it may almost be a dereliction of one's duty and justice, in the event of a coup or takeover and in light of the Second Amendment, if the leaders of the coup were not brought to trial by those holding the ultimate authority - the American citizens.

I trust the above was not offensive, and would be interested to hear Christian responses to (what will hopefully remain) such a hypothetical situation.
You are like the epileptic that was being cast into the fire and into the water. The only way to cast out this demon is not by taking up arms but rather by prayer and fasting.

Prayer -- speak loud enough for heaven to hear.

Fasting -- same thing as boycott. You don't like Amazon.com, Google and Apple for what they did to Parler -- boycott them. Boycott Facebook and Twitter if you don't like their censorship of POTUS and Washington Post.

It doesn't have to stop there. Talk to the sponsors of these businesses and ask for an explanation of why they support censorship. Shout it from the rooftop.

Don't stop there ask large fund managers for funds that do not support censorship.

Boycott them, boycott those that sponsor them, boycott those that invest in them.
 

Smoke

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I have to give Trump some credit. He made a pre-recorded video saying that no true supporter of his would ever do an act of violence. He is now discouraging any type of violence. I'd like to think civil war (another one) is an impossibility.
 

Lisamn

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I have to give Trump some credit. He made a pre-recorded video saying that no true supporter of his would ever do an act of violence. He is now discouraging any type of violence. I'd like to think civil war (another one) is an impossibility.
Well he is a president who didn’t send anyone to war but tried to bring the troops home...I think that speaks volumes.

It’s yet to be seen what happens to America. Is this another birthing pang...is this a permanent change for Americans? We just don’t know the future, and this waiting and watching and wondering is a hardship which have many fearing the worst.
 

calibob

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I’m not bragging about thousands of rounds...I’m just stating a fact. And also the fact that many, many Americans own guns. That to me is something to consider....people won’t be easy to control in America when they still own guns as opposed to the rest of the world who are under their governments thumbs. I am not predicting a civil war per se...but millions of armed Americans means something rather than nothing in my estimation.
Don't be misled to believe that most liberals are opposed to firearms. They've got plenty of them. I'm from LA where most that live in traditionally ethnic neighborhoods then to vote for liberals. Thats also where the most shootings, especially drive-by's occur. The liberals aren't lining up to turn their guns in. They just want your's.
 

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Up until yesterday, I just assumed (not giving it much thought) that women started to work more because the cost of living was getting higher and higher and it is difficult for a single income home. But then iamsoandso made a point about how as a result of the feminist movement and other factors which pushed women to want to be independent and get in the workforce as opposed to just staying at home which ultimately increased the pool of workers, thereby decreasing the demand for workers.

I think it's possible it's both the cost of living increase in addition to the increase in the pool of workers which has made it difficult for single income homes.

I'm curious your thoughts on this.
I agree with Iamsoandso. I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, an watched as humanity tumbled into the pit of chaos. Women's Lib movement was the start of so many behaviors that ruined the home as we knew it. Thank God my parents fled the area and moved our family of nine children back to Maine. The "two worker" household, "latchkey kids" and "free love" were just a few of the new expressions introduces to society and each had it's own effect at tearing down morality and Christianity. I could go on and on about where we left America in the ditch.
 

iamsoandso

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I’m not bragging about thousands of rounds...I’m just stating a fact. And also the fact that many, many Americans own guns. That to me is something to consider....people won’t be easy to control in America when they still own guns as opposed to the rest of the world who are under their governments thumbs. I am not predicting a civil war per se...but millions of armed Americans means something rather than nothing in my estimation.

I agree and I tried to word the second paragraph so that you did not see it as if I thought you had said "thousands of..."(I was speaking to people in general at that point)...