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Magenta said:
Pray to them, or for them? Big difference. Praying for leaders/those in auhority is Biblical... whether you side with them, or not.

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From 1 Timothy 2-1:4 :)
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Yup. But she said she was praying to them not for them.
 
posthuman said:
well then.

let's have elections, and abide by them, and call sedition what it is.
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Are you that backwards ????

We have at our feet the worst corruption by democrats in the history of our nation.

We went through 4 years of democratic fake charges and accusations against our president and nonstop propaganda of how he stole the election.

No we are going to stop the steal by the democrats.

Our country can not survive the level of corruption we are witnessing by your party.

How can you be that deceived?????
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
1 John 3:4
English Standard Version
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.


2020 began the year of extreme lawlessness with no end in sight. Should we be surprised? Our culture, our schools, our families have taught our children the ideologies of the world and not of God. Sin has abounded and where sin abounds we see a rise in corruption and lawlessness. Our governing officials have failed to protect or enforce the laws. The system degrades into a useless stack of papers if we do not practice the virtues that secure it.


James Madison: “To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people is a chimerical idea.”


We who hold to law, order, and justice should hold our governing officials accountable as many have failed to protect America. The lawlessness we see is the byproduct of a decaying system. The system was built on a moral foundation and therefore it can no longer hold.


Law and order should be in the context of justice. Justice equates to morality.
Law enforcement enacted out of corruption is called tyrannical.
The government will see the disorder as lawlessness while the people will see it as self-defense.


Self Defense is justified. We must always examine are the people justified? Where the people of Hong Kong justified to fight against the Communist Party of China? You have to also examine what is at stake? Life? Liberty? Property? What kind of actions are justified to protect life, liberty, or property? Are millions of unborn children's lives at stake? Liberty ( Any rights like religion, self-defense at stake, or election integrity)? Property as we will see a rise in taxes and small businesses collapse under covid restrictions?


Are we to the point of a justifiable self-defense? It is too early to say yes ( granted my job isn't gone, my income isn't gone, my life is not being threatened, my place of worship has not been threatened but so so many people are facing this already) so for me, a justifiable self-defense could come quite quickly under communist sympathizers. Especially if all of these injustices grow exponentially over the next few months to years.
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The United States of America held an election.
The truth is Biden won the election.
Widespread voter fraud has not been proven nor was there evidence of such.

The only thing that has been as stake is one's mans fragile ego who could not face reality and others who allowed themselves to fall prey to his demagoguery.

What actions are acceptable to protect a demagogue?
 
Solemateleft said:
Lets keep some perspective here.... Whenever someone frames a question by casting a generalization at "YOU PEOPLE" ... It's already coming across as judgemental...

I was at the 'Stop the Steal MARCH' in DC today... from 8:30am until 4:30pm... My guesstimate was hundreds of thousands of PEACEFUL PATRIOTS showed up to listen to speakers in front of the WH to include POTUS... Lots of patriotic music, and chants of USA! USA! The Mass marched PEACEFULLY to Capital Hill...

There were a handful of knuckleheads (read tiny fraction of the Marchers) who decided to break-in to the Capitol Building - the JURY is still out as to WHO those INSTIGATORS are/were...

Sound familiar? Sounds like when well intended BLM folks attended what they thought was going to be MOSTLY peaceful protests - only to have ANTIFA show up and instigate escalation of riots, violence and terrorizing our streets... "Is that what those (read you) people want?" Doesn't come across very well does it...

Someone remind me were there or were there not protesters in the Judge Kavanaugh Hearings - during Congress?

Answer to your Question: The MILLIONS of PATRIOTIC AMERICANS want a LEGITIMATE US DEMOCRACY and to ensure that someone - anyone STANDS UP to DEFEND OUR US CONSTITUTION!!!

Note: some rumors out there are that ANTIFA might even have infiltrated and instigated the breach... We just don't know - BUT it certainly is not US PEOPLE (majority of us Christian Patriots).
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Exactly, we dont know who the front line individuals were "Inciting" the actions, I watched the actions that started the event, it looked like a rehearsed theatrical wrestling show, as an individual was bouncing around the ring, "Minimal Security" that allowed the entrance

About 6-8 Individuals were allowed to freely roam around the Senate chambers, without policing intervention?

I believe the "Minimal Security" was pre-planned, allowing entrance to shape public opinion, with the main purpose, giving an (Excuse & Cover) for the Republican Rhino's for voting to accept the electors, and their future political careers

Minimal Security Was Pre-Planned, Allowing For Entrance, A Theatrical Production For Public Opinion And Covering The Republican Rhinos

6-8 individuals roaming the Senate Chambers, without police intervention?

Staged And Pre-Planned, Its That Simple, My Opjnion
 
Truth7t7 said:
Sad, I was unaware of the shooting before my comment

Didnt really see what the circumstances were, didnt appear to be too violent, individuals were actually walking around unattended in the congressional chambers?
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I do not believe any details have been released, but one person has come forward and said she was shot by a cop.

Not sure we will ever know the actual details.
 
SophieT said:
I do not believe any details have been released, but one person has come forward and said she was shot by a cop.

Not sure we will ever know the actual details.
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Apparently it was SS as she was trying to climb through the cabinet window (to be confirmed)
 
Absolutely said:
Are you that backwards ????

We have at our feet the worst corruption by democrats in the history of our nation.

We went through 4 years of democratic fake charges and accusations against our president and nonstop propaganda of how he stole the election.

No we are going to stop the steal by the democrats.

Our country can not survive the level of corruption we are witnessing by your party.

How can you be that deceived?????
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Arizona, Michigan, And Georgia will have their Republican controlling Legislature immediately return election voting laws back to pre-covid changes, possibly paper ballots, a traceable history, and recall the fraudulent elected Senators, 4 in total, and a special re-election, I see this happening "Quickly", my opinion

Seats Stolen Through Criminal Fraud

Arizona: Mcsally
Georgia: Purdue, Loeffler
Michigan: James
 
breno785au said:
An eyewitness supposedly told CNN (I'm aware of people's mistrust for CNN) trying to find the article.
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There were a number of men breaking windows and climbing in through them.

The 'witness' that I mentioned, said it was the police. The police were all wearing uniforms. SS do not look like police.

I don't want to play Sherlocke Holmes with this. There is so much spinning and lying. I am not going to second myself and question if what I saw was what I saw. Liars in this mess hope people will do that because after all, they are the authority.

People's mistrust in CNN is well-founded I do not believe the truth is coming out on this one.
 
Truth7t7 said:
Just listened to Kelly Loeffler, she stated she was going to vote against Arizona certification, but because of the actions at the capitol, she will vote to certify the electors?

She isnt kidding anybody, she wasnt going to vote to oppose certification

Mitch McConnell and 70% of the Republicans have sold out, open, blatant, criminal election fraud, and they are approving the crimes

Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, needs the republican controlled house and senate to immediately return the election laws to pre-Covid, and start the recall of the criminal fraudulent senate elections
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and this is one of the main reasons i have been saying for weeks that trump is not going back in.

it would have taken a unified front to get things set right, and early on it became obvious that was never going to happen.
 
Truth7t7 said:
Exactly, we dont know who the front line individuals were "Inciting" the actions, I watched the actions that started the event, it looked like a rehearsed theatrical wrestling show, as an individual was bouncing around the ring, "Minimal Security" that allowed the entrance

About 6-8 Individuals were allowed to freely roam around the Senate chambers, without policing intervention?

I believe the "Minimal Security" was pre-planned, allowing entrance to shape public opinion, with the main purpose, giving an (Excuse & Cover) for the Republican Rhino's for voting to accept the electors, and their future political careers

Minimal Security Was Pre-Planned, Allowing For Entrance, A Theatrical Production For Public Opinion And Covering The Republican Rhinos

6-8 individuals roaming the Senate Chambers, without police intervention?

Staged And Pre-Planned, Its That Simple, My Opjnion
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Agree,
After seeing what I saw first hand and then tuning in to MaxNews and putting two and two together - it looks more and more like a scripted event...
- Lots of people noticed that there were too few porta johns for the size of the crowd - lots deemed spiteful measure of Mayor Bouser
- Yesterday there were warnings of anticipated violence, and Government members in the NCR were advised to stay away...
- Yesterday We heard that the National Guard was being called up...
- Evidently, Mo Brooks reported that they had Intel yesterday that ANTIFA might attend and incite violence... That alone should have been sufficient to Call-In the Nat'l Guard... They did not... They were not called in until the 6 pm curfew...
- I noticed that when we arrived at the Capitol - there were lots of DC Police in staging areas along the outer perimeter. Maybe they had an anticipated planned rotation - but it was NOT a 100% man on deck defense of the Capitol Building... Recall the BLM WH protests - were met with 100% ...
- Seeing lots of footage on NewsMax - where the Capital was not Stormed - rather the Police seemingly un-provoked essentially, backed-off their line willingly and let people pass, and Police were scene opening a side door and allowing people to enter...
- Lots of people who entered - were essentially blindly following - as if on a tour of the Capitol Building... Recalling, that as we approached the building - chants were heard - 'Our House' - people honestly/naively believed this is the People's House.
- The LEFT has proven to be better at this game of Info Ops/Deception... In this case - this orchestrated Distraction from the Business of Congress served to change the tone of the preceding now in session... Brilliant Play...
- I recall sitting outside the Capitol today and both surprised and angry (after hearing of the breach and death) that the DC Police were unable to Secure the Perimeter of this Building on this day! After they have had 9 months to learn how to prepare for Riots via the BLM Riots...
- Also it looks like the trigger puller was a private political security person... No Marchers on the inside or outside have been found to have any firearms... The woman was unarmed - my spidey sense is wondering who this security person works for?
- IMHO - totally scripted brilliant sabotage for the master deception operators... Just as ANTIFA instigated violence in BLM riots... Hook line and sinker...
 
EleventhHour said:
The United States of America held an election.
The truth is Biden won the election.
Widespread voter fraud has not been proven nor was there evidence of such.

The only thing that has been as stake is one's mans fragile ego who could not face reality and others who allowed themselves to fall prey to his demagoguery.

What actions are acceptable to protect a demagogue?
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Let's say no fraud was committed. We still have illegal actions taken by judges and governing officials to manipulate voting procedures. As for fraud, the evidence has not been judged in a court of law. The courts wouldn't hear the cases based on case structure, not evidence. They said it was too late or they had not the right. The evidence was enough to sway over 100 GOP congressmen and women. Many others felt the same but wouldn't stand against it.

The reality as I stated, is our system is in decay. I cannot make you see the corruption, nor do I care to try. God sees it, and it will be judged.
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
Let's say no fraud was committed. We still have illegal actions taken by judges and governing officials to manipulate voting procedures. As for fraud, the evidence has not been judged in a court of law. The courts wouldn't hear the cases based on case structure, not evidence. They said it was too late or they had not the right. The evidence was enough to sway over 100 GOP congressmen and women. Many others felt the same but wouldn't stand against it.

The reality as I stated, is our system is in decay. I cannot make you see the corruption, nor do I care to try. God sees it, and it will be judged.
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"The Navarro Report - The Immaculate Deception" provides sufficient substantiating collection of irregularity observations that warrant transparent examination and adjudication... The outright dismissal of any and all of these irregularities by anyone who claims these elections are just a legitimate is doing nothing to help bring our country together...
https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/the-navarro-report-the-immaculate-deception/
 
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