Is the law a blessing or a curse?

[ewq1938]

Deu_9:11 And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.
Deu_9:15 So I turned and came down from the mount, and the mount burned with fire: and the two tables of the covenant were in my two hands.

Here again we see that the two tables of stone are the tables of the covenant and we know the ten commandments (the law) were written on these tables of stone.

Deu_29:9 Keep therefore the words of this covenant, and do them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.

The words of the covenant is the law which the people were supposed to do/obey. law = covenant, covenant = law

 

[Dino246]

Deu_9:11 And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.
Deu_9:15 So I turned and came down from the mount, and the mount burned with fire: and the two tables of the covenant were in my two hands.

Here again we see that the two tables of stone are the tables of the covenant and we know the ten commandments (the law) were written on these tables of stone.

Deu_29:9 Keep therefore the words of this covenant, and do them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.

The words of the covenant is the law which the people were supposed to do/obey. law = covenant, covenant = law

The words are not synonymous. You cannot put "law" every place that "covenant" is used, or vice versa, and have the results make sense.

Hebrews 8:7 refers to the old covenant and the new covenant. Rather than continuing to argue the point, just let it go.

 

[soberxp]

I didn't make that up I simply echoed what Jesus Christ said out of his own mouth it's not my way of thinking it's the mind of Christ.👂

I don't quite understand what you mean. Is my understanding of the law inconsistent with that of Jesus Christ?

 

[Blik]

The law is both a blessing and a curse.
It's like the tree of life and the tree of good and evil in Genesis.
God blesses us to eat the tree of life, but we eat the curse we shouldn't eat.
Curse comes from a part of the law, from the part of sin, but the law itself is not all about sin itself, the full law itself represents life.The law of giving life as creator did from The beginning.

Use an inappropriate metaphor.
It's like the atomic bomb can be used to maintain peace, but it can also be used to wage war.

The creator's original intention from the beginning is to create life, not death and sin.
Only from the creator's original intention, in fact, only the meaning of blessing.

I so agree. It is the intention of our Holy Father for everyone human to be saved through Christ. Bless our Holy God.

 

[echoChrist]

I don't quite understand what you mean. Is my understanding of the law inconsistent with that of Jesus Christ?

That depends if your one of the people that says God's Holy Commandments are a curse which Christ never said nor did any of his followers then your in contrary to the word if not then your in right standing. I defend the truth if someone teaches contrary to it. I have a passion for the word and I will clear pollution from the gospel till I die or Jesus comes which ever comes first.👂

 

[Blik]

Deu_9:11 And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.
Deu_9:15 So I turned and came down from the mount, and the mount burned with fire: and the two tables of the covenant were in my two hands.

Here again we see that the two tables of stone are the tables of the covenant and we know the ten commandments (the law) were written on these tables of stone.

Deu_29:9 Keep therefore the words of this covenant, and do them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.

The words of the covenant is the law which the people were supposed to do/obey. law = covenant, covenant = law

A covenant between God and us is a communication, an agreement between parties. When the Lord communicated the law through writing it in stone, it gave us rules to follow so we would know how to best live in our world. These rules in stone were faulty, because rules can be followed legalistically, without love. Without love as a basis of rules they can be misused. So the Lord corrected this and communicated with us in a better way, heart to heart.

The law is not a communication, it is how our life can be run to result in the fruits of the spirit. By disobeying them we bring death on ourselves that can only be turned to life through the forgiveness that Christ offers. They are a blessing, as they are like the manual we must learn to drive a car safely. They are a curse if you think of them as the way to death.

 

[ewq1938]

A covenant between God and us is a communication, an agreement between parties. When the Lord communicated the law through writing it in stone, it gave us rules to follow so we would know how to best live in our world. These rules in stone were faulty, because rules can be followed legalistically, without love. Without love as a basis of rules they can be misused. So the Lord corrected this and communicated with us in a better way, heart to heart.

The law is not a communication, it is how our life can be run to result in the fruits of the spirit. By disobeying them we bring death on ourselves that can only be turned to life through the forgiveness that Christ offers. They are a blessing, as they are like the manual we must learn to drive a car safely. They are a curse if you think of them as the way to death.

The old law is a curse we are freed from through Christ and the law of Christ of the new and better covenant.

 

[echoChrist]

The old law is a curse we are freed from through Christ and the law of Christ of the new and better covenant.

I'm curious what is this old law you speak of.

 

[ewq1938]

I'm curious what is this old law you speak of.

The law that was the law of the old covenant. Never heard of the old covenant before? It decayed long ago but 99.9 percent of Christians have heard of it.

Heb_8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

 

[echoChrist]

The law that was the law of the old covenant. Never heard of the old covenant before? It decayed long ago but 99.9 percent of Christians have heard of it.

Heb_8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

So you mean the ten commandments have vanished away is that what you mean?

 

[ewq1938]

So you mean the ten commandments have vanished away is that what you mean?

All of it did. Some moral laws are made part of the law of the new covenant but obviously the Saturday Sabbath isn't since that was fulfilled by Christ. He gives us a spiritual rest which is superior to the physical rest of the old Sabbath.

 

[echoChrist]

All of it did. Some moral laws are made part of the law of the new covenant but obviously the Saturday Sabbath isn't since that was fulfilled by Christ. He gives us a spiritual rest which is superior to the physical rest of the old Sabbath.

All of it did. Some moral laws are made part of the law of the new covenant but obviously the Saturday Sabbath isn't since that was fulfilled by Christ. He gives us a spiritual rest which is superior to the physical rest of the old Sabbath.

Just checking. And what is one of satan's greatest deceptions getting people to believe there is no law for he is lawlessness.

 

[ewq1938]

Just checking. And what is one of satan's greatest deceptions getting people to believe there is no law for he is lawlessness.

The law of Christ is superior to the law of Moses. No one is promoting no law so that is a strange strawman fallacy you have posted.

 

[echoChrist]

The law of Christ is superior to the law of Moses. No one is promoting no law so that is a strange strawman fallacy you have posted.

Saying all God's Holy commandments which Jesus said to keep every single one is truth and you to teach otherwise is whats strange.

 

[soberxp]

That depends if your one of the people that says God's Holy Commandments are a curse which Christ never said nor did any of his followers then your in contrary to the word if not then your in right standing. I defend the truth if someone teaches contrary to it. I have a passion for the word and I ill clear pollution from the gospel till I die or Jesus comes which ever comes first.👂

There are words about sin in the ten commandments,such as Rape, steal, kill.
In my opinion, this is the curse.The curse comes from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.let me ask you a question,How do you know what is rape,steal,kill? where those knowledge comes from?If there were no flaws in the Old Testament, I don't think there would be such words to describe sin in ten commandments.So we have the New Testament, the New Testament depicts beautiful words Instead of sin.From now, it's a real blessing.

From the perspective of God as a whole, complete full law is blessing.

 

[echoChrist]

There are words about sin in the ten commandments,such as Rape, steal, kill.
In my opinion, this is the curse.The curse comes from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.let me ask you a question,How do you know what is rape,steal,kill? where those knowledge comes from?If there were no flaws in the Old Testament, I don't think there would be such words to describe sin in ten commandments.So we have the New Testament, the New Testament depicts beautiful words Instead of sin.From now, it's a real blessing.

From the perspective of God as a whole, complete full law is blessing.

Yes the Holy commandments reveal sin and sin can use it as a weapon against you if you live in the flesh without the spirit that is the curse not the Holy commandments. But if you have life in Christ sin cannot use Holy commandment as weapon it's powerless because sin and death have been defeated.

 

[SophieT]

A covenant has law. The law is written in words. That is what a covenant is. There is no such thing as a covenant separate or different from it's law. The law is the covenant, and the covenant is the law. The law of the new covenant is called the law of Christ.

So, the old covenant and it's words/law were replaced by a new and better covenant and it's words/law.

I'm not even gonna try

 

[ewq1938]

Saying all God's Holy commandments which Jesus said to keep every single one is truth and you to teach otherwise is whats strange.

Obeying the old law was only to be done while the old covenant was in effect. When Christ died the new covenant replaced the old and with it came a new law. Christianity 101, the very basics of the religion. What you are promoting is some odd mixture of Judaism and Christianity which is not what we are taught from the writers of scripture in the time of the new covenant.

 

[echoChrist]

Obeying the old law was only to be done while the old covenant was in effect. When Christ died the new covenant replaced the old and with it came a new law. Christianity 101, the very basics of the religion. What you are promoting is some odd mixture of Judaism and Christianity which is not what we are taught from the writers of scripture in the time of the new covenant.

Sorry I'm not going to receive seed by the wayside I'm going to keep all God's commandments like Jesus taught over and over again. I'm sorry you don't understand what Christ's sacrifice fulfilled.

 

[ewq1938]

Sorry I'm not going to receive seed by the wayside I'm going to keep all God's commandments like Jesus taught over and over again. I'm sorry you don't understand what Christ's sacrifice fulfilled.

You are the one teaching to keep the old law. You need to take a beginners course in Christianity and learn about the new covenant from a Christian perspective rather than mixing Judaism into it.