TONGUES false teaching.

[SophieT]

Exactly my point from the beginning!!!!!

Anyone who supports continuation of tongue talking is actually supporting that kind of activity because that is exactly what happens in churches today who encourage speaking in tongues.

Still marching to your own tune then major ? That is not at all exactly what happens in churches today. Your imagination is as out of order as the poor duped people who are making fools of themselves.

See, we have this thing called 'discernment'. We can tell fakeness and also unfaithfulness. You are exhibiting both by pretending you know all about what every person in every church does and unfaithfulness by denying the gifts of the Holy Spirit you have decided you do not want.

 

[Major]

Cessationists love to portray all those who speak in tongues that way. However, they never post videos of their congregation sleeping in church while the letter kills them.

Now WHY would you say that I "PORTRAYED" those videos. The word "PORTRAY" indicates a made up action.

I did not "PORTRAY" anyone my friend. That was a videos of real life people do exactly what they normally do in a church service.

As I said in my very 1st post...."IF you had been in as many Pentecostal church services as I have you would have seen this take place".

 

[VARob]

Now WHY would you say that I "PORTRAYED" those videos. The word "PORTRAY" indicates a made up action.

I did not "PORTRAY" anyone my friend. That was a videos of real life people do exactly what they normally do in a church service.

As I said in my very 1st post...."IF you had been in as many Pentecostal church services as I have you would have seen this take place".

Ignorant people throw out the baby with the bath water.

 

[Major]

Still marching to your own tune then major ? That is not at all exactly what happens in churches today. Your imagination is as out of order as the poor duped people who are making fools of themselves.

See, we have this thing called 'discernment'. We can tell fakeness and also unfaithfulness. You are exhibiting both by pretending you know all about what every person in every church does and unfaithfulness by denying the gifts of the Holy Spirit you have decided you do not want.

NO! Do you actually think I am smart enough to make this stuff up? If you do.....Thank YOU!!!!

Do you think that all the people in that video were "PRETENDING".

I was NOT there......Although I have been in exactly the same situations as posted. I did NOT encourage anything that you saw.

I just read the Bible and post what it tells us. I am very sorry that you have a problem accepting that fact.

YOU are not upset with me at all but instead you are upset at your own inability to accept the Word of God my friend.

 

[1ofthem]

Exactly my point from the beginning!!!!!

Anyone who supports continuation of tongue talking is actually supporting that kind of activity because that is exactly what happens in churches today who encourage speaking in tongues.

You are making a very broad statement. I'm sure this is not what happens in every church. How could you take a few videos and then conclude this is happening in all churches today?

 

[Major]

Ignorant people throw out the baby with the bath water.

So then.....speaking in tongues is the "BABY". What your comment says is that YOU WANT to speak in tongues no matter what the Word of God says so you are going to do it.

Is that a correct statement????

 

[Major]

You are making a very broad statement. I'm sure this is not what happens in every church. How could you take a few videos and then conclude this is happening in all churches today?

I did NOT take those videos!

They are found on "YOU TUBE". Not just those but a hundred more.

And as I said in the 1st post......"IF you had been in as many Pentecostal church services as I have, YOU would have seen the very same thing".

And YES......what is seen in those videos is pretty much a universal happening in all the churches that promote speaking in tongues and continuationism.

Nothing like a real life video to bring the truth home is there????????

 

[Major]

I have to admit that me laugh there were some pretty funny ones in there

However......funny does not make it Biblically acceptable.

It is sad to me that "Funny" is exactly what the world is led to think about the Christian faith.

 

[1ofthem]

Now WHY would you say that I "PORTRAYED" those videos. The word "PORTRAY" indicates a made up action.

I did not "PORTRAY" anyone my friend. That was a videos of real life people do exactly what they normally do in a church service.

As I said in my very 1st post...."IF you had been in as many Pentecostal church services as I have you would have seen this take place".

I'm pretty sure she said you are using those videos to "portray" all those who speak in tongues that way. Meaning... you are using those videos to try to say that fakery is happening in all churches. And you actually just stated that in your post to me....

 

[Major]

I'm pretty sure she said you are using those videos to "portray" all those who speak in tongues that way. Meaning... you are using those videos to try to say that fakery is happening in all churches. And you actually just stated that in your post to me....

 

[VARob]

So then.....speaking in tongues is the "BABY". What your comment says is that YOU WANT to speak in tongues no matter what the Word of God says so you are going to do it.

Is that a correct statement????

1 Cor 14:5) I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor 14:37) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

 

[Major]

I'm pretty sure she said you are using those videos to "portray" all those who speak in tongues that way. Meaning... you are using those videos to try to say that fakery is happening in all churches. And you actually just stated that in your post to me....

Those videos speak for themselves.

Let me be clear......Tongues we see today Is NOT BIBLICAL.

Yes.....what I have seen is faked and as a young man I was TAUGHT to speak in tounges and told.....WHO will know?

 

[Major]

1 Cor 14:5) I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor 14:37) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Any interpreting going on there???

 

[1ofthem]

I did NOT take those videos!

They are found on "YOU TUBE". Not just those but a hundred more.

And as I said in the 1st post......"IF you had been in as many Pentecostal church services as I have, YOU would have seen the very same thing".

And YES......what is seen in those videos is pretty much a universal happening in all the churches that promote speaking in tongues and continuationism.

Nothing like a real life video to bring the truth home is there????????

lol...chill dude. Sorry 'bout my country gramma...lol I know you didn't take or film the videos, but you are using them to try to make a point which is not true.

I've been in many Pentecostal church services and never saw anything like that going on. That is a total scam. So I question the Pentecostal church services you have attended. Maybe you should broaden your perspectives and stop painting everyone with such a broad brush.

 

[Major]

1 Cor 14:5) I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor 14:37) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 14 is a corrective chapter written by Paul to "Correct" the misuse of tongues in the church.

Now I notice that you did not post 1 Corinthians 14:34. The CONTEXT of chapter 14 is TONGUES and in verse 34 clearly says...........
"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak,(IN TONGUES) but must be in submission, as the law says. "

Would you care to comment on that verse?

 

[Major]

lol...chill dude. Sorry 'bout my country gramma...lol I know you didn't take or film the videos, but you are using them to try to make a point which is not true.

I've been in many Pentecostal church services and never saw anything like that going on. That is a total scam. So I question the Pentecostal church services you have attended. Maybe you should broaden your perspectives and stop painting everyone with such a broad brush.

That may be true for YOU! However it is also just as true that I have seen and sat in on exactly the same thing AND the fact of the video confirms that fact.

I am confused on how you can make me out to be doing a "Scam" when all I did was to post the exact video of what I have been saying about this subject. How in the world can that be a SCAM?????

Maybe.....maybe you should admitt to the reality that you just may be wrong!

 

[1ofthem]

Those videos speak for themselves.

Let me be clear......Tongues we see today Is NOT BIBLICAL.

Yes.....what I have seen is faked and as a young man I was TAUGHT to speak in tounges and told.....WHO will know?

Yeah, they speak for themselves not everyone else.

Let me be clear...Tongues are indeed Biblical.

And yes, what you have seen is fake. No one should be teaching others to speak in tongues. It is a gift of the Spirit. Not something that needs to be learned or taught by man.

 

[1ofthem]

That may be true for YOU! However it is also just as true that I have seen and sat in on exactly the same thing AND the fact of the video confirms that fact.

I am confused on how you can make me out to be doing a "Scam" when all I did was to post the exact video of what I have been saying about this subject. How in the world can that be a SCAM?????

Maybe.....maybe you should admitt to the reality that you just may be wrong!

I'm not saying you are a scammer the people in the videos are the scammers. I believe that you have really been in some churches where faking is going on, but that does not mean this stuff is happening everywhere. And Maybe you should admit to the reality that you just may be wrong...just saying.

 

[Major]

you can't cut off the full context at 27 when 28 continues the lesson

1 Corinthians 14:28-34 .....
"If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God. "

Is that what is seen in videos of people talking in church. Any interpretation????

 

[SophieT]

NO! Do you actually think I am smart enough to make this stuff up? If you do.....Thank YOU!!!!

Do you think that all the people in that video were "PRETENDING".

I was NOT there......Although I have been in exactly the same situations as posted. I did NOT encourage anything that you saw.

I just read the Bible and post what it tells us. I am very sorry that you have a problem accepting that fact.

YOU are not upset with me at all but instead you are upset at your own inability to accept the Word of God my friend.

When I say your imagination, I am referring to the fact you believe that tongues is false and no longer for today. That is not true and not what we find in scripture, hence, your imagination.

Do a search of the forums and you will find probably a few hundred videos of nonsense such as you posted. Do you think you are the first one to try and shock people with that type of thing?

You say you read the Bible. Well others do as well and in fact they study the Bible and do not reach the conclusions that you reach.

No one is upset. Stop with the ad hominem nonsense. It does not make you credible and in fact shows where the real problem lies