ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST
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I don't understand the covid worshipers line Edd. Never the less, I never expected much more than 80-850/0 effectiveness with moderate amounts (at best) of negative reactions. Every other type of med comes with pages and pages of warnings. They've been around longer with more testing too. I don't expect miracles from Big Pharma.
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You're not very good at debating points. The study has nothing to do with maiming anyone. What could you possibly be referring to now? A different claim, a different article? A different study? I did not see it presented, maybe I missed the post. Did you post something about vaccines maiming children in Africa? Can you point me to it or repost it so that I can fact check it. I have no idea who is getting maimed or where.
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Bob, the "Covid worshippers" are those that poo-poo away ANY facts, or good news surrounding the virus, that don't fit their doom and gloom prognostications and narrative, or don't support lockdowns and the suppression of basic freedoms.
They put their faith and trust in science, Government officials, the Pharmaceutical Industry, people who ABSOLUTELY DO NOT have their best interest, or ordinary, average human beings interests at heart, like Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci, and others.
They patently REJECT ANY suggestion that their is ANY nefarious methods and motivations by the aforementioned.
Some, actually get excited in a sick type of way, when APPARENT bad news about the virus is reported.
As for the 80-85%, we have been hammered away that the vaccine is 95% effective, and perfectly safe.
They put their faith and trust in science, Government officials, the Pharmaceutical Industry, people who ABSOLUTELY DO NOT have their best interest, or ordinary, average human beings interests at heart, like Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci, and others.
They patently REJECT ANY suggestion that their is ANY nefarious methods and motivations by the aforementioned.
Some, actually get excited in a sick type of way, when APPARENT bad news about the virus is reported.
As for the 80-85%, we have been hammered away that the vaccine is 95% effective, and perfectly safe.
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Thank you for your contributions to the discussions.
Debating with intellectually honest people can be informative for both sides.
But when responses are childish banter not related to the points being debated it is just immature arguing and sinful strife. I am not interested in that sort of thing. I never really know if I am talking to a person that is open to intellectual fact finding or just wants to argue and is immature. After a few responses you can usually tell. Then I always feel sullied and a bit immature myself for going back and forth with someone that is immature. And then I have to repent and swear off arguing with antivaxxers on the internet again. (*sigh)
Debating with intellectually honest people can be informative for both sides.
But when responses are childish banter not related to the points being debated it is just immature arguing and sinful strife. I am not interested in that sort of thing. I never really know if I am talking to a person that is open to intellectual fact finding or just wants to argue and is immature. After a few responses you can usually tell. Then I always feel sullied and a bit immature myself for going back and forth with someone that is immature. And then I have to repent and swear off arguing with antivaxxers on the internet again. (*sigh)
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All of this is based on your own personal assumptions, which is fine but it cannot be confused with the truth that rarely do people die
from the virus alone but the complications that arise from the virus and so your insistence that the numbers are a hoax is misinformation.
And yes to some extent we do need to trust science and medical treatments, most people with cancer that pursue alternative treatments die and if you want to be cautious about a vaccine because it has been developed quickly that is one thing, but to ascribe some evil world wide agenda to this vaccine is really outside of how the real world operates.
from the virus alone but the complications that arise from the virus and so your insistence that the numbers are a hoax is misinformation.
And yes to some extent we do need to trust science and medical treatments, most people with cancer that pursue alternative treatments die and if you want to be cautious about a vaccine because it has been developed quickly that is one thing, but to ascribe some evil world wide agenda to this vaccine is really outside of how the real world operates.
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Or maybe he just wants to save the lives of children who don't have to die of diseases if somebody with the resources just stepped up and helped them out? Why not that?
People my age and older remember growing up and watching video feeds from third world countries of people dying daily from parasites and diseases and hunger "way over there in Africa" and other places and we would wonder why no one was helping them.
We would turn from the news reels and ask our parents, "why doesn't anyone help them?" and our parents would say things like "we can't save everyone, it cost too much money and no one can help them fast enough, the food would spoil before we got it to them, or they need their own government to help them because we have enough problems of our own" or some lame reason that never made sense to us.
Then people like Bill Gates who grew up watching these same news reels grows up makes billions, invests billions so that he just keeps making billions and decides that he can do something about it, and starts a foundation to get people who have the resources moving in the direction of helping these kinds of world tragedies, something Christians should be very much interested in supporting and all he gets is false accusations.
He is a pretty classy guy to take it in such stride. I kind of like the guy myself. Crazy people have not made their case yet. Just a bunch of false accusation with no substance. I think they are the evil ones and Bill Gates is a pretty decent guy as far as I can tell.
People my age and older remember growing up and watching video feeds from third world countries of people dying daily from parasites and diseases and hunger "way over there in Africa" and other places and we would wonder why no one was helping them.
We would turn from the news reels and ask our parents, "why doesn't anyone help them?" and our parents would say things like "we can't save everyone, it cost too much money and no one can help them fast enough, the food would spoil before we got it to them, or they need their own government to help them because we have enough problems of our own" or some lame reason that never made sense to us.
Then people like Bill Gates who grew up watching these same news reels grows up makes billions, invests billions so that he just keeps making billions and decides that he can do something about it, and starts a foundation to get people who have the resources moving in the direction of helping these kinds of world tragedies, something Christians should be very much interested in supporting and all he gets is false accusations.
He is a pretty classy guy to take it in such stride. I kind of like the guy myself. Crazy people have not made their case yet. Just a bunch of false accusation with no substance. I think they are the evil ones and Bill Gates is a pretty decent guy as far as I can tell.
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RFK Jr. Is Our Brother and Uncle. He’s Tragically Wrong About Vaccines.
We love Robert F. Kennedy Jr., but he is part of a misinformation campaign that’s having heartbreaking—and deadly—consequences.
By KATHLEEN KENNEDY TOWNSEND, JOSEPH P. KENNEDY II and MAEVE KENNEDY MCKEAN
May 08, 2019
Americans have every right to be alarmed about the outbreak of measles in pockets of our country with unusually high rates of unvaccinated citizens, especially children. Right now, officials in 22 states are grappling with a resurgence of the disease, which was declared eliminated in the United States in 2000. With over 700 cases already reported and indications that more outbreaks will occur, 2019 will likely see the most recorded cases of measles in decades. And it’s not just measles. In Maine, health officials in March reported 41 new cases of whooping cough, another disease once thought to be a relic of the past—more than twice as many cases as this time last year.
This problem isn’t only an American one. The World Health Organization reports a 300 percent increase in the numbers of measles cases around the world this year compared with the first three months of 2018. More than 110,000 people are now dying from measles every year. The WHO, the health arm of the United Nations, has listed vaccine hesitancy as one of the top 10 threats to global health in 2019. Most cases of preventable diseases occur among unvaccinated children, because parents have chosen not to vaccinate, have delayed vaccination, have difficulty accessing vaccines, or the children were too young to receive the vaccines.
Full story:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798?cid=apn
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George Soros and the Demonization of Philanthropy
Conspiracy theories about him obscure the real concerns about how large-scale giving works today.
But it hasn’t been Soros’s financial buccaneering or even his political giving that have featured most prominently in the conspiracies about him. It’s been his philanthropy. Soros has long been one of the leading donors to progressive causes in the United States and is the most generous financial supporter of pro-democracy organizations around the world. And his giving will likely only increase in the years to come. In October, Soros disclosed that over the last few years, he has turned over around $18 billion to the institutions through which he has channeled his philanthropy, the Open Society Foundations (OSF).
Full story:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/12/soros-philanthropy/547247/
Conspiracy theories about him obscure the real concerns about how large-scale giving works today.
But it hasn’t been Soros’s financial buccaneering or even his political giving that have featured most prominently in the conspiracies about him. It’s been his philanthropy. Soros has long been one of the leading donors to progressive causes in the United States and is the most generous financial supporter of pro-democracy organizations around the world. And his giving will likely only increase in the years to come. In October, Soros disclosed that over the last few years, he has turned over around $18 billion to the institutions through which he has channeled his philanthropy, the Open Society Foundations (OSF).
Full story:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/12/soros-philanthropy/547247/
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Well I may add to it or seek to persuade you otherwise or it maybe what I think you are saying.
It is a loaded term much like communism, but it is more important to understand what people really mean.. people are always throwing around the term communism but what they are talking about is not really communism.
It is a loaded term much like communism, but it is more important to understand what people really mean.. people are always throwing around the term communism but what they are talking about is not really communism.
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