ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

[SoulWeaver]

i'm thankful not to have smallpox

Aaaand I thank God that polio and smallpox don't mutate. Vaccines work really well on diseases like that where the pathogen doesn't mutate. But flu vaccines haven't been effective to nearly the same degree, and who knows it might be the same for covid but we will see...

 

[cv5]

No. Most people are not stupid so most people will reject all the antivaxxer misinformation and side with the science and facts.
Most people will want one of the safety tested FDA approved vaccines and not need to be compelled by banning access to anything. Especially as the months go by and millions are vaccinated and showing immunity and no serious side affects. The rest that are cautious (which is not stupid) will use logic and conclude that it is safe and better than getting COVID. No one will need to force the majority. That is my theory, and I am sticking to it until proven wrong by the next year of real life scenarios. We will see.

I have a completely different yet totally effective failsafe formula for viruses and vaccines:

Everyone who CHOOSES to get vaccinated can do so and avoid illness caused by the virus.
Everyone who CHOOSES to refuse vaccination can take the risk of contracting a virus that
has a case fatality rate that is negligible.

With the added benefit that those 30-40-50% who get vaccinated will achieve the herd immunity threshold anyways.

Yes....let everyone else get vaccinated....and I am gonna be just fine!

 

[SoulWeaver]

No. Most people are not stupid so most people will reject all the antivaxxer misinformation and side with the science and facts.
Most people will want one of the safety tested FDA approved vaccines and not need to be compelled by banning access to anything. Especially as the months go by and millions are vaccinated and showing immunity and no serious side affects. The rest that are cautious (which is not stupid) will use logic and conclude that it is safe and better than getting COVID. No one will need to force the majority. That is my theory, and I am sticking to it until proven wrong by the next year of real life scenarios. We will see.

What if I decide that I'd rather not take that vaccine at my age because the covid risk for my age group is low and I fear the vaccine side effects more - and, my decisions could have been different if I was, say, 85. Every medicine is weighing the risk vs benefits and people need to be free to make decisions for themselves.

Also it's really lame from you guys to keep calling people "antivaxxers "as most of us don't advocate against general vaccination. Most of us are vaccinated against serious illnesses with high death rate as well. We just don't want to vaccinate for seasonal kind of diseases, any new seasonal virus that appears. If that makes sense.

 

[Scribe]

I would stay clear from accusing anyone here of not being Christian.
But I am very upset that our friends are not at all alarmed and absolutely NOTHING raises their concerns in all that's going on...
Well that's odd and hard for me to accept because this whole year has been nothing but mess and contradiction and flipflopping from chief "scientists" who then repeatedly admitted being wrong and lying to us (Fauci). Then these same scientists not sticking to the Covid ordinances they advocated (Birx). It's rich, I could go on and on.

I don't want to treat anyone on here badly regardless of our disagreements, and I really HATE how much fellowship on here just straight up died this year and horrible things were said, because people can't control themselves.

That being said, this needs to stop being treated like some flu vaccine. This is something on another level. The whole world is changing and some might like the change but I don't. People are worried. I did not think in the beginning about loss of our rights. It didn't seem it would go like this. But there's no normalcy in sight, and after covid, there will be something else, some next virus. I don't want to be a guinea pig, or to be forcefully injected with things. Sorry, not sorry, call me what you want but it's my body.

Actually the Astra Zeneca is very much like the flu vaccine using the old technology of virus cultures and the DNA of the virus to inject an antigen.
So you have a choice of the older method or the mRNA.

I have learned a lot about vaccines this past year and I am much more convinced of their safety than I used to be. I read the science behind it and I am encouraged. I don't know why people have a different reaction. Maybe they are not reading the science. It is not as scary as it once sounded to me. I am starting to comprehend it. It is not simple but it is not as complicated as I thought it was before this year and after all that I have read from credible science publications. And I have barely touched the subject.

If I was not called to preach I think I would focus on curing diseases. Great things are around the corner in medical science. It is a great time of discovery we are living in.

 

[cv5]

Aaaand I thank God that polio and smallpox don't mutate. Vaccines work really well on diseases like that where the pathogen doesn't mutate. But flu vaccines haven't been effective to nearly the same degree, and who knows it might be the same for covid but we will see...

Absolutely correct. These vaccine pushing nutters have REFUSED to accept the fact that these coronaviruses mutate so rapidly that vaccines are utterly absurd (COVID is known to have dozens and possibly hundreds of variations already). Herd immunity thresholds have almost CERTAINLY been achieved already. In some countries.....definitely.

Yet the vaccine/COVID hysteria goes on and on. With the mentally deranged, irrational, psychotic kooks that is. The sane stable lucid bunch has this deal all figured out.

 

[Scribe]

I have a completely different yet totally effective failsafe formula for viruses and vaccines:

Everyone who CHOOSES to get vaccinated can do so and avoid illness caused by the virus.
Everyone who CHOOSES to refuse vaccination can take the risk of contracting a virus that
has a case fatality rate that is negligible.

With the added benefit that those 30-40-50% who get vaccinated will achieve the herd immunity threshold anyways.

Yes....let everyone else get vaccinated....and I am gonna be just fine!

It is possible. Another possibility is that the unvaccinated will keep getting sick with COVID for many years to come. I have a feeling that is what will happen. But I could be wrong. I hope I am and that herd immunity wipes it off the face of the earth, but it does not seem likely.

 

[SoulWeaver]

these coronaviruses mutate so rapidly that vaccines are utterly absurd (COVID is known to have dozens and possibly hundreds of variations already)

Yes I am worried about this same thing.
So far they'll telling us the vaccine will work, but it's not like we haven't been lied to before by these same people...

 

[Scribe]

Absolutely correct. These vaccine pushing nutters have REFUSED to accept the fact that these coronaviruses mutate so rapidly that vaccines are utterly absurd (COVID is known to have dozens and possibly hundreds of variations already). Herd immunity thresholds have almost CERTAINLY been achieved already. In some countries.....definitely.

Yet the vaccine/COVID hysteria goes on and on. With the mentally deranged, irrational, psychotic kooks that is. The sane stable lucid bunch has this deal all figured out.

You have already read the reports from the virologists that examine, record and name the mutations that they are not the kind of mutations that would make the vaccines not work. So why do you keep using that argument. It is possible, but none of the current mutations recorded are of that kind of mutation. So it is not logical to use them to support your argument. The vaccines are still effective against the mutations of COVID19 thus far.

 

[cv5]

Yes I am worried about this same thing.
So far they'll telling us the vaccine will work, but it's not like we haven't been lied to before by these same people...

I really pity the gullible on this thread.

COVID lies = $$$$$COVID$$$$$

COVID is a power and money grab and is the main component for overturning a Presidential election (the goal of which is to accrue power and money of course). The people pushing the psychosis are pure evil and powermad........and yes indeed the main architects are globalists.
The mid-level operators and actors want to grift-kickback-steal-boost a bunch of money as well.

Are the people who are engaged in this operation saved? Nope. Not even close....

 

[kinda]

What if I decide that I'd rather not take that vaccine at my age because the covid risk for my age group is low and I fear the vaccine side effects more - and, my decisions could have been different if I was, say, 85. Every medicine is weighing the risk vs benefits and people need to be free to make decisions for themselves.

Also it's really lame from you guys to keep calling people "antivaxxers "as most of us don't advocate against general vaccination. Most of us are vaccinated against serious illnesses with high death rate as well. We just don't want to vaccinate for seasonal kind of diseases, any new seasonal virus that appears. If that makes sense.

Agreed.

It's like talking to a wall though. No amount of reason can satisfy radical views, this goes for both sides of the spectrum.

Can we just accept our differences and move a long? No, because the drug pushers have agendas, and anyone that views things different, must be banned on social media, and labeled right wing conspiracy nut jobs.

This isn't a social rights, political movement, or public health concern, this is straight up war. World leaders want us dead, and until most of us are dead, they can't sleep at night. The devil's time is running short, not ours. Think eternal time clock, not human life span time clock.

They want you to be mad and want you to take up arms and fight back, but not falling for it. Live for Christ, die for Christ, that's the way I'm rolling. They killed Jesus, many of the Apostles, early Christians, and etc. Why do we think we are so special not to go through being a martyr?!?!

I see it as we all have an alarm clock on our heads, when it's time, it's time to go. Doesn't matter when, it's just a matter of holding on to our faith.

Philippians 1:21

For to me, living means living for Christ, and dying is even better.

 

[cv5]

You have already read the reports from the virologists that examine, record and name the mutations that they are not the kind of mutations that would make the vaccines not work. So why do you keep using that argument. It is possible, but none of the current mutations recorded are of that kind of mutation. So it is not logical to use them to support your argument. The vaccines are still effective against the mutations of COVID19 thus far.

So take your vaccine(s). All of them every single one of them. While I sit back and watch.

 

[SoulWeaver]

Agreed.

It's like talking to a wall though. No amount of reason can satisfy radical views, this goes for both sides of the spectrum.

Can we just accept our differences and move a long? No, because the drug pushers have agendas, and anyone that views things different, must be banned on social media, and labeled right wing conspiracy nut jobs.

This isn't a social rights, political movement, or public health concern, this is straight up war. World leaders want us dead, and until most of us are dead, they can't sleep at night. The devil's time is running short, not ours. Think eternal time clock, not human life span time clock.

They want you to be mad and want you to take up arms and fight back, but not falling for it. Live for Christ, die for Christ, that's the way I'm rolling. They killed Jesus, many of the Apostles, early Christians, and etc. Why do we think we are so special not to go through being a martyr?!?!

I see it as we all have an alarm clock on our heads, when it's time, it's time to go. Doesn't matter when, it's just a matter of holding on to our faith.

Philippians 1:21

For to me, living means living for Christ, and dying is even better.

Thanks for writing that, I found some comfort reading it.

 

[cv5]

So take your vaccine(s). All of them every single one of them. While I sit back and watch.

And don't forget your wife and kids. They all get it too. All of them every single one of them without exception. To do anything less would be disloyal to your masters. Just think of it as acceptable worship.

 

[kinda]

Thanks for writing that, I found some comfort reading it.

Just sharing my thoughts.

I appreciate the many posts that share many of the same feelings towards this vaccine, and learned many things thanks to the people that posted here.

We have to build each other up, because the world is dragging us down.

 

[SophieT]

So are you saying by this reply that you will not read the study? Or that you did read the study?

So a vaccine has to actually kill to be determined a failure? Maiming and bad side effects are OK?

Does this study say that "DTP vaccines are killing more kids than the diseases it is targeting?"

You are using the word 'killed' as a diversion to take eyes off the actual bad effects. Not cool.

An excess of words for your twisting will not credibility either. You do that often.

 

[KT88]

Now you spinners of the truth will pass this over, deny it or say it is exaggerated. The rest of you, prefer the truth so here is some of it.

The Bill Gates Effect: WHO’s DTP Vaccine Killed More Children in Africa Than the Diseases it Targeted

Anyone defending the Bill Gates/WHO global vaccine program needs to explain this study: Mogensen et al 2017. Prior to 2017, neither HHS nor WHO ever performed the kind of vaccinated/unvaccinated (or placebo) study necessary to ascertain if the DTP vaccine actually yields beneficial health outcomes. The DTP vaccine was discontinued in the US and western nations in the 1990s following thousands of reports of death and brain damage.

… girls vaccinated with the DTP vaccine—the flagship of Bill Gates’s GAVI/WHO African vaccine program—died at 10 times the rate of unvaccinated kids.

But Bill Gates and his surrogates, GAVI and WHO, made DTP a priority for African babies. The Danish government and Novo Nordisk Foundation commissioned this study by a team of the world’s leading experts on African vaccination. The two most prominent names, Drs. Soren Mogensen and Peter Aaby, are both vocal vaccine supporters. They were shocked when they examined years of data from a so called “natural experiment” in Guinea Bissau where 50% of children die before age five. In that west African nation, half the children were vaccinated with the DTP vaccine at three months and the other half at six months. Dr. Mogenson and his team found that girls vaccinated with the DTP vaccine died at 10 times the rate of unvaccinated kids. While the vaccinated children were protected from Diphtheria, Tetanus and Pertussis, they were far more susceptible to other deadly diseases than unvaccinated peers. The vaccine apparently compromised their immune systems. Thanks to Gates, DTP is the world’s most popular vaccine.

There are numerous problems with Kennedy's article with cherry picking and misrepresentation. The DTP study cited in the Mogensen is based on vaccination is the 1980's:

"We examined the introduction of diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTP) and oral polio vaccine (OPV) in an urban community in Guinea-Bissau in the early 1980s"

The Gates foundation was established in the year 2000. So this "Bill Gates Effect" claim is bogus. and sensational BS. The information is misleading and lacks detail of a very complicated history of this particular "genus" of vaccine development.

 

[SophieT]

It won't need to be forced. Most people are not stupid. I hope. LOL

So if a person must be forced, then they are stupid?

Well at least not a moron, right? Just stupid.

Why are you qualified to call people less than intelligent? What are we missing here?

 

[KT88]

Covid is like a box of chocolates

This is really pathetic. But I'm not surprised.

 

[SophieT]

Can you tell me where is this forced government mandate as of yet I have not read that in my province/country where I live?

I think we need to separate out morality/ethics of government enforcing vaccination and the reasons for such a move by government and whether it can be justified.

When people start talking about Communism and Nazism, the rhetoric becomes to heightened for me.

Why would that heighten your senses? I know you will not answer since you have me on ignore (even though you liked a post I made a couple of days ago so not all that ignored but rather just a defined way you have of dealing with me cause you do not like the questions I ask)

Someone else should ask you though. There must be a reason why people are reminded of certain events in history.

Here in the US, it isn't all talk though. Does your Canadian news not tell you that? Lost the address for Google?

The left here is socialist (a nice word for communism gateway)

 

[SophieT]

"But it is refreshing when they cite the study and one can read it and realize that it does not say what the antivaxxer thought it said. It makes the antivaxxer look like a moron who can't re

I am calling the one that cites a study that does not say what the antivaxxer thought it said look like a moron who can't comprehend what the study actually said. This makes people stop listening or talking to the liar who just wants to spread misinformation and ignore facts. This is refreshing because they are not very good at their craft. They don't realize that the study they cited did not say what they thought it said and they are the only ones that don't see it. Others who comprehend the study look at them and think..."hmmm, your elevator does not go all the way to the top does it?" Bless your little heart.

Did I make it more clear now?

I understand you better I think, then you would like to believe. You do not display what is socially acceptable, let alone Christian, for actual conversation. There is no consideration from you for anyone but yourself and your demeaning comments go a long way as offerings for that conclusion.

I think you do not see your own actions but I don't think it would matter to you if you did.