ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

[Scribe]

I find it incredible that you choose to discredit anything and everything that you either did not dream up yourself or illustrates how wrong you are.

The only Peer Review you seem to agree with, is the one between you and a couple of other 'nothing to see here' posters

Are you a doctor now? Gee. Who are we going to believe. You or people who are doctors. Such a hard choice.

You must have got your degree right here in this thread.

So are you saying by this reply that you will not read the study? Or that you did read the study?

Your reply does not address the statement. You are the one that gave the study as proof.

Does this study say that "DTP vaccines are killing more kids than the diseases it is targeting?"

Did the study say that DTP vaccines should not be given to African Children?

Did the study say that the DTP vaccines should be given to the African children in a different order to decrease the mortality rate in these villages?

Do you care what the study says?

Why would you think I do not agree with this "Peer Review study?" I read it and used statements from it to reveal what it says. I agree (respect or find it credible) It seems to suggest that giving the DTP vaccine in a different order than the last in a series decreased mortality rates. Giving it as the last in a series increased mortality rates. Over 10 years. No one died from DTP vaccine. But your misinformation put that spin on the study.

The question is do you find it credible and do you understand the study? Maybe you skimmed the statement from the study I posted and did not realize I was in agreement with it.

It does not require a degree to grasp the summary conclusions of the study. So such comments do not address the question.

Now that you know I accept the credibility of the peer review study and after you read it for yourself (what parts you can understand without being a doctor or having a degree) what would be your response to the question...

Does this study say that "DTP vaccines are killing more kids than the diseases it is targeting?"

 

[cv5]

"I don't believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on”, says WHO Chief Scientist

Looks like the experimental monkeys aren't getting out of their cages anytime soon eh?
Only the gullible fools failed to see this coming.....the wise and prudent knew better.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/damning-admission-from-w-h-o-chief-scientist/

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1343620091695538179

 

[Scribe]

Most people comply with vaccinations, so if this one is forced, one could make a case that it is a response by government against the rampant misinformation and disinformation of the anti vax movement.

It may come to down to preserving the health of larger society against the few who are unwilling to be rational and objective about vaccines.

It won't need to be forced. Most people are not stupid. I hope. LOL

 

[EleventhHour]

There's no case. There's no possible justification for any government doing anything like that. Forced medical intervention is something that nazis did. I even considered taking this vaccine in the past, but seeing that it is going towards being forced it's a NO from me.

Can you tell me where is this forced government mandate as of yet I have not read that in my province/country where I live?

I think we need to separate out morality/ethics of government enforcing vaccination and the reasons for such a move by government and whether it can be justified.

When people start talking about Communism and Nazism, the rhetoric becomes to heightened for me.

 

[SoulWeaver]

Another thing about the faux fake bogus "Christian".

They do not (in fact they CANNOT) heed God's warnings. Likewise, they cannot heed the warnings of the truly saved spiritually reborn authentic genuine Christian either.

As every truly saved Christian here can tell...!

I would stay clear from accusing anyone here of not being Christian.
But I am very upset that our friends are not at all alarmed and absolutely NOTHING raises their concerns in all that's going on...
Well that's odd and hard for me to accept because this whole year has been nothing but mess and contradiction and flipflopping from chief "scientists" who then repeatedly admitted being wrong and lying to us (Fauci). Then these same scientists not sticking to the Covid ordinances they advocated (Birx). It's rich, I could go on and on.

I don't want to treat anyone on here badly regardless of our disagreements, and I really HATE how much fellowship on here just straight up died this year and horrible things were said, because people can't control themselves.

That being said, this needs to stop being treated like some flu vaccine. This is something on another level. The whole world is changing and some might like the change but I don't. People are worried. I did not think in the beginning about loss of our rights. It didn't seem it would go like this. But there's no normalcy in sight, and after covid, there will be something else, some next virus. I don't want to be a guinea pig, or to be forcefully injected with things. Sorry, not sorry, call me what you want but it's my body.

 

[SoulWeaver]

It won't need to be forced. Most people are not stupid. I hope. LOL

So everyone who is mistrustful of this particular vaccine or questioning it or its rushed development is stupid?

 

[Scribe]

Who are you calling a moron? You are way over the line. Other people are in your camp, but they do not use the language that you do.

They may think it, but at least they have the smarts not to actually say it. Apparently you cannot help yourself.

"But it is refreshing when they cite the study and one can read it and realize that it does not say what the antivaxxer thought it said. It makes the antivaxxer look like a moron who can't re

I am calling the one that cites a study that does not say what the antivaxxer thought it said look like a moron who can't comprehend what the study actually said. This makes people stop listening or talking to the liar who just wants to spread misinformation and ignore facts. This is refreshing because they are not very good at their craft. They don't realize that the study they cited did not say what they thought it said and they are the only ones that don't see it. Others who comprehend the study look at them and think..."hmmm, your elevator does not go all the way to the top does it?" Bless your little heart.

Did I make it more clear now?

 

[EleventhHour]

It won't need to be forced. Most people are not stupid. I hope. LOL

There is a reason to worry about this virus since if men young men can become sterile like can happen with the mumps we have profound societal implications.
I am shocked how little value some people place on the greater good of society and how they have defaulted to some conspiratorial view.
Yes it is a new vaccine and all vaccines have risks, I guess we could go back to Roman times where fathers did not recognize their children until the age of five since many did not survive to that age.

 

[EleventhHour]

I would stay clear from accusing anyone here of not being Christian.

Thank you!

 

[SoulWeaver]

I am shocked how little value some people place on the greater good of society and how they have defaulted to some conspiratorial view.

This kind of blanket statement, that if people not volunteering for this vaccine don't care about greater good, or the above where Scribe just called everyone stupid who doesn't volunteer for this vaccine, is not helping at all.

 

[EleventhHour]

So everyone who is mistrustful of this particular vaccine or questioning it or its rushed development is stupid?

I have no problem with this, we do need to be cautious, however our knowledge should not be drawn from Alex Jones and his side kick Mr. Watson.

Follow the data not Twitter and Facebook that just inflames emotions.

 

[Scribe]

"I don't believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on”, says WHO Chief Scientist

Looks like the experimental monkeys aren't getting out of their cages anytime soon eh?
Only the gullible fools failed to see this coming.....the wise and prudent knew better.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/damning-admission-from-w-h-o-chief-scientist/

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1343620091695538179

Right. We all know about this. The virus can possibly get in the nose mucus and be passed before the antibodies can get to it. But once it gets to the blood stream it gets defeated. You can also pass it on your hands, clothes etc. While being vaccinated and immune.

So the unvaccinated will be at risk for years to come. This is a fact.

 

[EleventhHour]

This kind of blanket statement, or the above where Scribe just called everyone stupid who doesn't volunteer for this vaccine, is not helping at all.

Some people are of this mindset, their personal choice however formed whether based on data or emotions supersedes the common good, I have listened to their arguments on Facebook etc., etc., and I was not referring to you by any means.

 

[Scribe]

This kind of blanket statement, that if people not volunteering for this vaccine don't care about greater good, or the above where Scribe just called everyone stupid who doesn't volunteer for this vaccine, is not helping at all.

Oh it's fine when antivaxxers use all kinds of vilification toward BigPharma, Bill Gates, sheeples etc and even suggesting that they are not even Christian if they get vaccinated but call them stupid for saying that and we are the bad guys.

pfffftttt.

 

[EleventhHour]

Oh it's fine when antivaxxers use all kinds of vilification toward BigPharma, Bill Gates, sheeples etc and even suggesting that they are not even Christian if they get vaccinated but call them stupid for saying that and we are the bad guys.

pfffftttt.

Good point.

 

[cv5]

I would stay clear from accusing anyone here of not being Christian.
But I am very upset that our friends are not at all alarmed and absolutely NOTHING raises their concerns in all that's going on...
Well that's odd and hard for me to accept because this whole year has been nothing but mess and contradiction and flipflopping from chief "scientists" who then repeatedly admitted being wrong and lying to us (Fauci). Then these same scientists not sticking to the Covid ordinances they advocated (Birx). It's rich, I could go on and on.

I don't want to treat anyone on here badly regardless of our disagreements, and I really HATE how much fellowship on here just straight up died this year and horrible things were said, because people can't control themselves.

That being said, this needs to stop being treated like some flu vaccine. This is something on another level. The whole world is changing and some might like the change but I don't. People are worried. I did not think in the beginning about loss of our rights. It didn't seem it would go like this. But there's no normalcy in sight, and after covid, there will be something else, some next virus. I don't want to be a guinea pig, or to be forcefully injected with things. Sorry, not sorry, call me what you want but it's my body.

I am not accusing anyone in particular. Not at all. What I presented are fully supportable Scriptural doctrines pertaining to the difference between the truly saved and unsaved. Those who are called, those who hear, those who follow The Shepherd are saved. Those who follow another shepherd are not.

Now as regards my own personal assessment and opinion.....there is no doubt there are MANY on CC who are unsaved faux "Christians". One can....and SHOULD test the spirits and use the gift of discernment to divide truth from error........and thereby define the condition of those who speak it.

 

[posthuman]

i'm thankful not to have smallpox

 

[EleventhHour]

i'm thankful not to have smallpox

Amen

 

[SoulWeaver]

Oh it's fine when antivaxxers use all kinds of vilification toward BigPharma, Bill Gates, sheeples etc and even suggesting that they are not even Christian if they get vaccinated but call them stupid for saying that and we are the bad guys.

pfffftttt.

I don't recall using the word "sheeple" about anybody.
Big pharma didn't use to be a problem, it is a problem here because politicians allowed it to be (no liability). Is stating that problem a
"vilification"? Why are we made to be the bad guys if we say anything or point out issues about these companies and lobbying??? You can't criticize anything, you're immediately called the bad guy or tinfoil hat if you do.

 

[Scribe]

So everyone who is mistrustful of this particular vaccine or questioning it or its rushed development is stupid?

No. Most people are not stupid so most people will reject all the antivaxxer misinformation and side with the science and facts.
Most people will want one of the safety tested FDA approved vaccines and not need to be compelled by banning access to anything. Especially as the months go by and millions are vaccinated and showing immunity and no serious side affects. The rest that are cautious (which is not stupid) will use logic and conclude that it is safe and better than getting COVID. No one will need to force the majority. That is my theory, and I am sticking to it until proven wrong by the next year of real life scenarios. We will see.