Australia set to force its people to vaccinate

kinda · Dec 25, 2020

In this country they have absolutely no regard for the sovereignty of an individual. They have no regard for the rights of its citizens.
They have disregarded humanitarian laws from the Geneva convention and the Nuremburg code and have broken medical legislation.

Of all the western nations it looks like its Australia who is talking the most about forcing the experimental vaccine
90% of the people i know don't want the experimental vaccine and 98% of them don't believe in mandatory vaccinations...

I believe the government will use businesses to do their dirty work... They will say if you want to operate in this country then you are responsible for immunizing your staff or not allowing unvaxed customers into your store...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=910840425987871

This is an experimental vaccine... Im not a lab rat to be experimented on...
These experimental vaccines don't immunize u from covid, nor do they stop transmission. So whats the use.. Oh i forgot... $$$$$$$
If i have an adverse reaction then I can't sue pharma for damages... Why the hell not...
These experimental vaccines have cells from the lungs of an aborted fetus but keep it secret... Can't be trusted...
These experimental vaccines use a new kind of technology which is unproven, never used before on humans.
These experimental vaccines were rushed into production, they don't know what will happen with different comorbidities and different medications
These experimental vaccines have not been tested for any long term safety.
These experimental vaccines only weaken the symptoms of a disease that kills only 0.2% of the infected
These experimental vaccines have nothing to do with defeating any plandemic...

Tough break. What is the penatly for not taking the vaccine?

It means that if you don't vaccinate you don't get any government welfare benefits. It's a controversial plan.

https://www.pri.org/stories/australia-imposes-penalties-anti-vaxxers

Religious exemption?

Scribe · Dec 25, 2020

kinda said:

I think the author was correct when he said "maybe more of us will die of rubella and polio."

That is how it will go. Antivaxxers will use the internet social media platforms to spread lies, more and more ignorant gullible parents will not vaccinate their kids and some of those kids will die unnecessarily. There is nothing the government can do about it. This will continue and though it will not be as bad as it was in the past when no one was vaccinated, there will be a surge in diseases among the unvaccinated each year because of their position. Fortunately the vaccinated will still be immune.

The antivaxxers have only accomplished the death of all those who believed their lies about vaccines being harmful. Will they have to answer for it? I don't know. Maybe being sincere in their opinions will get them off the hook?

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

UCA4J said:

Kids vaccines aren't voluntary here. No jab no play. Call it a mandate, coercion or forcing but its definitely not voluntary
I reckon they will make businesses do their dirty work. Qantas has already got the ball rolling, they've set a precedence

kinda said:

That article is fairly old now and describes the legislation brought in to force parents to vaccinate their kids called "no jab no play".
It was brought in by our current PM when he was health minister...
Doctors are banned from giving exemptions, only the health bureaucrats can.
In fact, any doctor that advises against vaccinating their child faces prosecution in a court of law.

I can see the government using businesses. If you want to operate one you will have to make sure your staff submits to the experiment and reject any staff or customer that is unvaxed.

kinda · Dec 25, 2020

PC123 said:

Seen this one, but don't know if it's official or not.

Under the Australian Biosecurity Act 2015, refusers of coronavirus vaccination[1] in Australia could be at risk of five years imprisonment and/or a $66,600 fine.[2] [3]

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3258/rr-17

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

@Scribe its been a while... U seem to be much more aggressive... Stressed? I think we all are...
Whats been happening in your neck of the woods? Good xmas?

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

kinda said:

Ye from what i understand they can't actually do it like that, so blatantly.
Thats why i think it will be more of a coercion, no vax no work or buy or sell maybe even freeze accounts, who knows...

gb9 · Dec 25, 2020

Scribe said:

I think the author was correct when he said "maybe more of us will die of rubella and polio."

That is how it will go. Antivaxxers will use the internet social media platforms to spread lies, more and more ignorant gullible parents will not vaccinate their kids and some of those kids will die unnecessarily. There is nothing the government can do about it. This will continue and though it will not be as bad as it was in the past when no one was vaccinated, there will be a surge in diseases among the unvaccinated each year because of their position. Fortunately the vaccinated will still be immune.

The antivaxxers have only accomplished the death of all those who believed their lies about vaccines being harmful. Will they have to answer for it? I don't know. Maybe being sincere in their opinions will get them off the hook?

so, if vaccines are so safe and so great, then why is there a national vaccine injury compensation program, which is under the u.s federal claims court??

Scribe · Dec 25, 2020

PC123 said:

LOL. No, I am just a realist. I think we should be praising God that we were successful developing a safe and effective vaccine and that this virus is about to be defeated but instead people just complain and find fault with it. I see this whole thing going away by end of 2021 for most people but those who don't want to get vaccinated should not be forced. I understand that some people can't be vaccinated and therefor the unvaccinated keeping the virus going by provided it a host is bad for them, but for the most part why do I care if the unvaccinated want to keep getting COVID until they all either recover or die. As long as the vaccinated are allowed to go back to life as normal. I think in the end that is how it must play out.

kinda · Dec 25, 2020

PC123 said:

What are you gonna do?

Scribe · Dec 25, 2020

gb9 said:

Lawyers and people who lie. Same with other things like claiming neck injuries in a fender bender. Hard to prove so they just pay a settlement. Thousands of women used to get money for claiming silicone breast implants gave them fatigue or memory loss. They took it off the market for 10 years to do more research and proved it was safe. Now it is back on the market and Lawyers are not winning any cases claiming harm so they are not suing the manufacturers anymore.

gb9 · Dec 25, 2020

Scribe said:

or it could be that vaccines make people sick at times, and that is a good way to handle it privately and keep it out of public courts, and more importantly, public court records.

Scribe · Dec 25, 2020

gb9 said:

The claims are public. And the tens of thousands of virologists and immunologist world wide research the validity of every report of adverse affects for any vaccine and study it, test it, try to reproduce it, record it and write papers on it. Nothing is hidden, or kept secret from anyone. Too many people involved for that to happen. Reality is different than a Hollywood movie. You can't keep an adverse affect to a vaccine secret in real life. Especially not any that happen to more than one person. There is no one entity running the show. Too many separate organizations and people involved. That is reality. Conspiracy theorist need to get out more learn about the real world.

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

Scribe said:

LOL. No, I am just a realist. I think we should be praising God that we were successful developing a safe and effective vaccine and that this virus is about to be defeated but instead people just complain and find fault with it. I see this whole thing going away by end of 2021 for most people but those who don't want to get vaccinated should not be forced. I understand that some people can't be vaccinated and therefor the unvaccinated keeping the virus going by provided it a host is bad for them, but for the most part why do I care if the unvaccinated want to keep getting COVID until they all either recover or die. As long as the vaccinated are allowed to go back to life as normal. I think in the end that is how it must play out.

Ok so would it be fair to say that u don't support forced inoculations but u think its a good idea for everyone to get it?

Or do u support forced vax?

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

kinda said:

Personally... Go off the grid

gb9 · Dec 25, 2020

Scribe said:

i do not mean hidden as in no access , i mean hidden as in most of the media never reports on it.

they trumpet how many ( supposedly ) got covid, how many died, but are largely silent on how many adverse reactions to the vaccines.

oh sure, they throw out a few examples here and there, but do not paint the real picture.

most people do not even know that the vaccine damage court exists,,,,,,,,

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

It won't happen all at once but slowly slowly just like it has done.
A year ago no one would of accepted what we have now without the year of 2020 to coerce them.

Hitler didn't just come into power and start killing Jews. First he started a media campaign, blaming everything on the Jews.
Then one weekend they trashed the businesses of all the Jews. Some wanted to step up but they were convinced by the rest to keep quite as to no make the Nazis any angrier... And so they kept imposing tighter and tighter restrictions...

They made the Jews wear the star of David so that they could be easily identified and discriminated against. But the Jews said the star is our religion so we will shut up and wear it with pride... Soon after they were being taken away by train, "where are we going", we have good shelter for you, brand new housing. Come into here and have a nice warm shower... I meant gas chamber

Scribe · Dec 25, 2020

PC123 said:

No I do not support forced vaccinations. People should not lose their jobs or be fined or be punished for not being vaccinated especially with new mRNA technology. It is not ethical to force someone to do something against their conscience.

Parents having the right to not vaccinate their kids is troublesome. I support the parents right to not vaccinate their kids but at the same time I feel it is the parents fault if the kid dies from Whooping Cough, or other diseases that there are safe vaccinations available for. It is cruel to not vaccinate your kids because you believed a lie on the internet that vaccines cause autism. Sad if those kids die from a childhood disease unnecessarily. And I cannot imagine the lifelong grief and guilt of the parent responsible.

Antivaxxers are not going to like this but the truth is that people are eagerly looking forward to vaccines and despite what the "polls" say there are going to be plenty of volunteers lining up and herd immunity will probably be accomplished without the antivaxxers cooperation. So you're welcome for helping you out with that.

We will get you protected soon enough. Try to stay healthy until then.

PC123 · Dec 25, 2020

Scribe said:

Thats all i want, to be able to speak to my physician about it and make a decision without being discriminated against for it

Scribe said:

Im not a fan of the term. Its just a slogan used to put people down. What does it mean? Its unclear to me what it means.
Is a person an anti-vaxer for not supporting mandatory vaccines (by mandatory i also mean forced, coerced, u know). Then im an anti-vaxer and so are u

Scribe · Dec 25, 2020

gb9 said:

The media as in the daily news is not going to report on most things. They don't have the time or space to do more than sound bites. So of course most people don't know much about anything on any topic if all they get is Headline news and talking heads on TV. There is nothing anyone can do about that, they are doomed to perpetual ignorance.

However it the world of immunology there are requirements by law and sophisticated methods of data collection from hospitals to keep up with every adverse affect of every vaccine. With so many eyes on the COVID 19 vaccines this is multiplied many times over from normal procedures and nothing is going to go unnoticed.

There are so many people observing the COVID 19 vaccines right now. I hope they have lots of security checks because I would not be surprised if a radical antivaxxer terrorist might be planning an evil plot to taint dosages with something that will kill people so that they can cause a national fear of getting a bad dosage.

kinda · Dec 25, 2020

PC123 said:

This world is nuts!

PC123 said:

Well, it's not like there is a chance a protest, or revolt can change things. They have like robotic dogs, that can be fitted with machine guns, drones that can take people out with precision, and etc. That also have laser weapons that can cause temporary blindness, or heat torture.

Looks like this problem is through out the world, so everyone is gonna have to trust God on this one.

I'm really shocked that Australia is getting such bad treatment, this concerns me, even if I'm not in Australia. This is not good.

You know some bushman out there?

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