ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Scribe said:
Nothing you just said proves that the COVID 19 vaccines don't work. Failures in making effective vaccines for other viruses does not prove that no vaccines can be successful for a different virus. The COVID 19 is not the ______ flu (whichever one of the influenza viruses you name) It is not the HIV virus.
There have been many other successful vaccines for other viruses. They have almost eliminated polio. I think there were 33 cases world wide in 2018, and more in 2019, possibly due to antivaxxers scaring people.
Your logic does not work. You should be praising God that we were successful with a COVID 19 vaccine instead of complaining about it, but each person has to be responsible to answer to God for the light that they have.
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If their success rate is not 100 %, with others virusses how will that give me any comfort over current or future vaccines for viruses. Good point He will certainly hold us responsible. If we go for this, we demonstrate our ignorance concerning how our body functions. Christians are suppose to have the most intelligent knowledge of the human body and structure. God's science is very different from worldly science. Choose whom you believe
 
3angelsmsg said:
If their success rate is not 100 %, with others virusses how will that give me any comfort over current or future vaccines for viruses. Good point He will certainly hold us responsible. If we go for this, we demonstrate our ignorance concerning how our body functions. Christians are suppose to have the most intelligent knowledge of the human body and structure. God's science is very different from worldly science. Choose whom you believe
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This is your opinion. It is not the opinion of the majority of Bible believing Christians who know the scriptures better than you.

You are in the minority of believers as an antivaxxer. There is nothing incompatible with vaccines and faith in God except what you have invented from your own reasoning which however reasonable it may sound to you is not at all reasonable to millions of other Bible Believing Christians who find nothing antithetical to the bible to take a vaccine for a virus that might kill you.

Your confidence in your knowledge about bodily functions does not make you correct. It just makes you belligerently adhering to false information.

Science (true science that you can observe in nature) is part of creation, and is from God. A lover of truth and of God loves true science. Evolution is theory and not true science. True science is a wonderful exploration of God's creation.

The COVID 19 vaccines being administered right now are 95% effective in granting you immunity. The vaccine was not designed to fight flu but give it time and we will probably have better Flu shots coming out as well. For now the Flu shot is very effective against 4 different flus and there is a lot of misinformation being passed around about the flu shot not being effective so we would have to discuss what particular report you are referring to about the effectiveness of which flu and which flu shot.

COVID 19 is not the flu. Using your logic that the flu vaccine is not as effective as you think it should be (and we have not discussed the details yet) so therefore the COVID 19 vaccine for the COVID 19 virus cannot be effective either makes no sense. Also the mRNA vaccine is not even the same kind of vaccine at the technology behind the flu vaccine. If you stick to your logic it would be like me saying that sense the Polio Vaccine was successful I can be confident that the COVID 19 vaccine will be successful. That would be a dumb thing for me to say. They are two different kinds of viruses and two different kinds of vaccine technology.
I can only be confident that the the COVID 19 vaccine will be successful based on the 40,000 volunteer trials which were completed and documented.
 
Magenta said:
Objection: speculation:cool:
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Objecting to which? That many Christians know the scriptures better than him? Or that the majority of Christians are not antivaxxers?

For the proof of the first read his posts, there is a severe lack of fundamental hermeneutics going on. And for the second I submit the following Pew Research survey data as just one of many that supports that most evangelical protestants are not antivaxxers and support childhood vaccines for one example.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...oups-support-requiring-childhood-vaccination/
 
Scribe said:
Objecting to which? That many Christians know the scriptures better than him? Or that the majority of Christians are not antivaxxers?

For the proof of the first read his posts, there is a severe lack of fundamental hermeneutics going on. And for the second I submit the following Pew Research survey data as just one of many that supports that most evangelical protestants are not antivaxxers and support childhood vaccines for one example.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...oups-support-requiring-childhood-vaccination/
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I plead the fifth, your honor :geek::devilish::geek::giggle:
 
Scribe said:
Welcome to the 21st century. Vaccines really only got started between the 1920s and 1940s. It is about time for a breakthrough. If this works like the trials prove it did, then you can expect more breakthroughs with mRNA in the near future. Give it a few years and we may have cured a few cancers with mRNA. ;)(y)
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That is a impossibility, that you are talking about. That's to say, we have found a solution to sin. Selling the lie of the devil. That you won't die. You will live forever.
 
3angelsmsg said:
That is a impossibility, that you are talking about. That's to say, we have found a solution to sin. Selling the lie of the devil. That you won't die. You will live forever.
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We all die. Well except for those believers who will be alive when Jesus comes and are changed in the twinkling of an eye, we all die.

But we fight and overcome illnesses through nutrition, through surgery, and through vaccines along the way. But we still die. No reason to check out early if you can have a surgery. No reason to check out early if you can defeat a virus. Don't be weird bro. :)
 
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Scribe said:
Objecting to which? That many Christians know the scriptures better than him? Or that the majority of Christians are not antivaxxers?

For the proof of the first read his posts, there is a severe lack of fundamental hermeneutics going on. And for the second I submit the following Pew Research survey data as just one of many that supports that most evangelical protestants are not antivaxxers and support childhood vaccines for one example.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...oups-support-requiring-childhood-vaccination/
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Good link.

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Scribe said:
And for the second I submit the following Pew Research survey data as just one of many that supports that most evangelical protestants are not antivaxxers and support childhood vaccines for one example.
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Anti-vaxxers fall into the fringe group category, and they probably hold to a number of other fringe "ideologies". These things rarely exist in isolation.
 
Scribe said:
LOL... Is everybody on this forum SDA?
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I don't know, usually if they are they don't advertise it. "3 angels/third angel" in the account name or a variation on it is usually a dead give away you are dealing with an SDA.

On other forums they are usually promoting the sabbath, diet etc. Or one of their favourite conspiracies the dreaded "Blue Sunday Law".
 
KT88 said:
I don't know, usually if they are they don't advertise it. "3 angels/third angel" in the account name or a variation on it is usually a dead give away you are dealing with an SDA.

On other forums they are usually promoting the sabbath, diet etc. Or one of their favourite conspiracies the dreaded "Blue Sunday Law".
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Are they all antivaxxers or just some of them. It is against SDA doctrine to get a vaccine?
 
KT88 said:
I don't know, usually if they are they don't advertise it. "3 angels/third angel" in the account name or a variation on it is usually a dead give away you are dealing with an SDA.

On other forums they are usually promoting the sabbath, diet etc. Or one of their favourite conspiracies the dreaded "Blue Sunday Law".
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I think Most on here are the Grace plus faith plus nothing.
 
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