Favourite Bible Translations

[John146]

you scream God can perfectly translate in any language, but yet preach he only did it in one language, and that language being a dead language today.

The English language is not dead. Has man changed how we speak in English? Yes. God’s word should not change because of what man does to the language. That makes man the authority.

 

[Magenta]

God should be the final authority on what he has said, not us. It’s not a preference issue, but a truth issue. The majority of Christians sitting in church has no clue of such issues.

God has not told me I must read KJV. I benefit over time from reading multiple translations

Your truth issue is a non-starter, because you claim there was no proper Scripture before the KJV. That's just nuts.

nuts definition:
adjective
insane; crazy.

 

[John146]

Your right he is not

yet your causing confusion by saying God perfectly interpreted the word in an old dead language, yet is incapable of bringing it to today’s language.

What you cannot see is when the same language is used and is changed, one loses truth. One basic example is the use of thee and thou, you and ye. These pronouns were being phased out in 1611, but the translators were looking for accuracy, not pleasing the updated language.

 

[John146]

Your "majority" is a very small minority.

You know who I have spoken with? That’s the example I gave.

 

[John146]

Your truth issue is a non-starter, because you claim there was no proper Scripture before the KJV. That's just nuts.

Please post where is stated this. Thanks.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God should be the final authority on what he has said, not us. It’s not a preference issue, but a truth issue. The majority of Christians sitting in church has no clue of such issues.

So instead the preacher should spend time trying to explain what words which no one uses anymore, and take time away from preaching the word? Or should the church spend money to send its flock KJV language classes so they can learn the language?

we have a huge tongues movement, imagine if the word was changed to language to more adequately interpret the word today?

or the salvation by baptism crowd? How powerless would they be if the word baptize had been properly translated instead of making a new word up because the authors did not like the only word which could be used (to immerse or place into)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The English language is not dead. Has man changed how we speak in English? Yes. God’s word should not change because of what man does to the language. That makes man the authority.

Excuse me sir

the KJV English language is dead. no one speaks it today,

just because you were brought up in it, does not mean it is easily discernible by the laymen who has never seen an old English book,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What you cannot see is when the same language is used and is changed, one loses truth. One basic example is the use of thee and thou, you and ye. These pronouns were being phased out in 1611, but the translators were looking for accuracy, not pleasing the updated language.

Yep

it we still have other examples Of things which could not be translated,

I agree, ye and you are good. It’s shows plurality of the word you. Which modern day versions do not have

but it still has other issues. Such as words not used today, or the word which does not quite fit the intended meaning

 

[Magenta]

Please post where is stated this. Thanks.

I may have paraphrased, but you have expressed the same idea multiple times.

This may give an example: link

Your claim is that the KJV is the only inspired version?

Then what of those before it?

 

[shittim]

Anyway, back to the topic, I have found the Berean to be one I enjoy, the NT by Kenneth Wuest is a great help as well. Since Pentecost Sunday the believer should be guided in all truth by Holy Spirit, the words read are of less importance than going to the Lord and asking Him to reveal His truth from whatever version we have, He never gets confused.
If we are leaning on our own understanding in contravention of His instruction we can get confused.
Problems are never on His end.

 

[John146]

So instead the preacher should spend time trying to explain what words which no one uses anymore, and take time away from preaching the word?

Nope, that's absurd. The preacher should just explain the word and how it's the proper translation. The KJV will define itself to the one who studies.

 

[John146]

Excuse me sir

the KJV English language is dead. no one speaks it today,

just because you were brought up in it, does not mean it is easily discernible by the laymen who has never seen an old English book,

I read and study it daily so do millions of others. It's not dead sir.

 

[Dino246]

Well, if God cannot be trusted at his word...

The doctrine of the reliability of Scripture is not founded upon the singularity of translation. It's not even a factor.

 

[Dino246]

Nope, that's absurd. The preacher should just explain the word and how it's the proper translation. The KJV will define itself to the one who studies.

As will any other translation.

 

[John146]

Such as words not used today, or the word which does not quite fit the intended meaning

With this outlook, changes should be made all the time. Do you not see a problem with this? In the near future, the words man and woman may not be used. Do we update the Bible to fit our updated language? No way!

 

[Magenta]

I read and study it daily so do millions of others. It's not dead sir.

A dead language is "one that is no longer the native language of any community," even if it is still in use, like Latin. Is the language growing and changing with the times through use? No. Therefore it is classified as a dead language. PS~ I don't see you speaking as the KJV

 

[Dino246]

God should be the final authority on what he has said, not us. It’s not a preference issue, but a truth issue. The majority of Christians sitting in church has no clue of such issues.

There you go with your ignorant assertions about the majority again. It's a fallacious argument; don't use it. You don't know jack about what "the majority of Christians" know or believe.

 

[John146]

Then what of those before it?

God has always preserved his word for those who search diligently. It was not until 1611 did God perfectly preserve his words and completed them in a book.

 

[Dino246]

With this outlook, changes should be made all the time. Do you not see a problem with this? In the near future, the words man and woman may not be used. Do we update the Bible to fit our updated language? No way!

I guess you better learn Greek and Hebrew then; your argument is completely self-refuting.

 

[John146]

As will any other translation.

Not when the truth is at stake in the passage.