Wars and rumors of war.
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7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:7-14
Just had to fill the rest in. Merry Xmas and the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be upon you!
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:7-14
Just had to fill the rest in. Merry Xmas and the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be upon you!
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Not exactly. "This generation" is referring to the generation that is alive at the time of the events mentioned in Matthew24:6. Jesus did not say "Your" but rather "This" generation. Major difference. All of 'these things to be fulfilled" were not current events but rather end-time events. We are now living in the "wars, and rumors of wars" in regards to prophetic events.
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I bought some books to prepare for the worst, you know war, famine, and economic lock downs.
It's time to start getting prepared for the worst.
Here are the books I'm buying.
Country Living by Carla Emery
Alive After the Fall by Alexander Cain
The Lost Book of Herbal Remedies by Nicole Apelian PHD, and Claude Davis
I'm thinking about moving to the country in a couple of years, to get away from the major cities. Really looking forward in reading these books.
It's time to start getting prepared for the worst.
Here are the books I'm buying.
Country Living by Carla Emery
Alive After the Fall by Alexander Cain
The Lost Book of Herbal Remedies by Nicole Apelian PHD, and Claude Davis
I'm thinking about moving to the country in a couple of years, to get away from the major cities. Really looking forward in reading these books.
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Not exactly.
Both of you are part-right and part-wrong.
In the Greek, the phrase "till all these things be fulfilled" is actually saying "till all these things begin to be fulfilled"...
The timing-sense that is present in the grammar is 'beginning-and-continuing' - not 'beginning-to-end completed'.
He said that - the generation at-the-time would not pass away before "all of these things would begin to be fulfilled"...
He did not say that "all these things" would all be fulfilled within a generation.
The same thing exists in some other verses, including some in Revelation.
Both of you are part-right and part-wrong.
In the Greek, the phrase "till all these things be fulfilled" is actually saying "till all these things begin to be fulfilled"...
The timing-sense that is present in the grammar is 'beginning-and-continuing' - not 'beginning-to-end completed'.
He said that - the generation at-the-time would not pass away before "all of these things would begin to be fulfilled"...
He did not say that "all these things" would all be fulfilled within a generation.
The same thing exists in some other verses, including some in Revelation.
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I don't know what version or Greek text you are using. Young's Literal says nothing to back up your claim:
"Verily I say to you, this generation may not pass away till all these may come to pass."
Neither does the Concordant Literal by A.E. Knoch, a stickler for literal translating:
""Verily, I am saying to you that by no means may this generation be passing by till all these things should be occurring."
And taking what JC said in Luke
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
You are doing is reading the scripture into your preconceived narrative.
"Verily I say to you, this generation may not pass away till all these may come to pass."
Neither does the Concordant Literal by A.E. Knoch, a stickler for literal translating:
""Verily, I am saying to you that by no means may this generation be passing by till all these things should be occurring."
And taking what JC said in Luke
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
You are doing is reading the scripture into your preconceived narrative.
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KJV English Bible, TR Greek New Testament, Strongs exhaustive concordance, Zondervan analytical greek lexicon
Nope.
The "preconceived narrative" is the 'preterist' view - that [the] "all things" were fulfilled before the generation that was alive when the passage was written [all] passed away. And, understandably so. For - "on the surface" - the [English] wording certainly "appears" to say so.
However, if you "dig a little deeper" (perhaps [even] more than "a little"), you should find that the idea of 'commencement' (of the prophecy) is 'embedded' in the [Greek] wording of the passage - meaning that the prophecy (the "all things") would 'commence' to unfold - or, 'begin' to occur.
In other words, the "all things" would begin to come about before that generation passed.
Nope.
The "preconceived narrative" is the 'preterist' view - that [the] "all things" were fulfilled before the generation that was alive when the passage was written [all] passed away. And, understandably so. For - "on the surface" - the [English] wording certainly "appears" to say so.
However, if you "dig a little deeper" (perhaps [even] more than "a little"), you should find that the idea of 'commencement' (of the prophecy) is 'embedded' in the [Greek] wording of the passage - meaning that the prophecy (the "all things") would 'commence' to unfold - or, 'begin' to occur.
In other words, the "all things" would begin to come about before that generation passed.
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All I know is that back in the day with y2k, I decided to start preparing for the worst and started buying more food when God asked me if I would need all that? And so I stopped buying so much extra food and as it turned out y2k didn’t happen at all...
Sometimes..its just good to trust in God and not lean upon your own understanding...we don’t really know the details of the future. We know some things but not all..and I don’t think anyone can go wrong just trusting in God to lead you.
Sometimes..its just good to trust in God and not lean upon your own understanding...we don’t really know the details of the future. We know some things but not all..and I don’t think anyone can go wrong just trusting in God to lead you.
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Absolutely.
It's better to be prepared when nothing happens, than not be prepared when something happens.
I think being prepared takes time, but in all reality, when an emergency happens, there will always be something, that you didn't account for. Each crisis prepares you for the next. Trusting God for direction is essential.
It's better to be prepared when nothing happens, than not be prepared when something happens.
I think being prepared takes time, but in all reality, when an emergency happens, there will always be something, that you didn't account for. Each crisis prepares you for the next. Trusting God for direction is essential.
I don’t think you understand what I was saying...my preparations were totally unnecessary because I didn’t know the future and the future didn’t include y2k shutting down the world..the world went on as it always did. Trust in the Lord is best...He knows the future and He knows what you should do. I keep thinking of the scripture that talks about if you are destined to go into captivity then into captivity you will go. Your preparations won’t help you then...but abiding in God will.
Well, in Florida when the power goes out, it's good to have a generator. Those that don't, wish they did. Emergency preparedness is prudent.
If you don't want to prepare for an emergency, than it's your choice. We can disagree, it's why we have freedoms. I don't have to believe like you, to understand you. You don't need to clarify. You prepared for Y2K and nothing happened. I didn't prepare for Y2K, but studied computers and electronics.
If your lead not to prepare for an emergency, then don't. It helps me sleep at night, if I have basic supplies for emergency situation.
I took the Red Cross CPR and First Aide Class last year and have no regrets. Didn't have to perform CPR or First Aide, since my training, but many lives have been saved, because people took the class in the past.
Something to think about...
Here’s another statistic, from the States. About 300,000 a year suffer a sudden cardiac arrest, the vast majority of which occur outside the reach of medical professionals. Sadly, the survival rate is only 8%, almost all of which are a result of the victim receiving CPR from a bystander, keeping them alive until the ambulance arrived. Only a third out of the 300,000 cases received CPR, saving a good portion of the victims.
https://www.c2cfirstaidaquatics.com/red-cross-first-aid-and-cpr-save-lives-is-it-true/
If you don't want to prepare for an emergency, than it's your choice. We can disagree, it's why we have freedoms. I don't have to believe like you, to understand you. You don't need to clarify. You prepared for Y2K and nothing happened. I didn't prepare for Y2K, but studied computers and electronics.
If your lead not to prepare for an emergency, then don't. It helps me sleep at night, if I have basic supplies for emergency situation.
I took the Red Cross CPR and First Aide Class last year and have no regrets. Didn't have to perform CPR or First Aide, since my training, but many lives have been saved, because people took the class in the past.
Something to think about...
Here’s another statistic, from the States. About 300,000 a year suffer a sudden cardiac arrest, the vast majority of which occur outside the reach of medical professionals. Sadly, the survival rate is only 8%, almost all of which are a result of the victim receiving CPR from a bystander, keeping them alive until the ambulance arrived. Only a third out of the 300,000 cases received CPR, saving a good portion of the victims.
https://www.c2cfirstaidaquatics.com/red-cross-first-aid-and-cpr-save-lives-is-it-true/