Exposing one of satan's lies with Truth. Gods commandments are still valid today till the earth passes away.

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Budman

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Blain said:
oh I was unaware of such a thread I only recently go over being sick so I may be pretty behind on the happenings here.
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No problem. Glad you're feeling better. :)
 
Ultimateprepper

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Well while I do understand where you are coming from there is a right way to go about it, calling someone a pharisee is is not the way. I don't choose sides but I do give correction and do stand up for people
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Did he not say hypocrite first that's why I said pharisee.
 
Blain

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Ultimateprepper said:
Did he not say hypocrite first that's why I said pharisee.
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I agree calling you a hypocryte was wrong that is why I said what I did to him, but we who are of the spirit should respind in love and respect even when called names or attacked that is the fruits of patience and love you cannot reason with people by retaliating with another name calling.
personally I like you and I only wanted to advise you in the way to respond to such things so I hope you understand
 
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Hypocrite is a proper term for demanding of others what one does not do themselves. Given the bulk of his posts on this subject, it certainly applies.
 
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Hypocrite is a proper term for demanding of others what one does not do themselves. Given the bulk of his posts on this subject, it certainly applies.
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I don't demand anything I just put Gods truth out there for whoever listens.
 
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I feel led by the spirit to share this to whoever the spirit leads to receive it. Now there are some who are under the false doctrine that God's Divine commandments have been blotted out and nailed to cross and were a curse not a blessing. I will refute this lie with the truth of the Holy Spirits teaching. Now before we begin In no way or form am I saying obedience to reliance on or observance of Gods commandments makes you righteous or secures your salvation I know the word says (Rom. 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. First lets expose the lie and find out what was truly blottened out and was a curse (not 10 commandments) and nailed to the cross and find out what was fulfilled by final sacrifice of Christ Jesus our Lord. (Rom. 7:11-14) 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it (using it as a weapon) slew (killed) me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, ( not a curse) and the commandment holy, (again not a curse) and just, and good. 13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me (without the Spirit) by that which is good(as a weapon); that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal (of flesh), sold under sin (sold into slavery under control of sin). You see clearly it states gods commandments are not a curse but used as a weapon against us before we had received spirit of Christ where there is no condemnation for sin. The curse wasn't the commandments it was that we were in bondage having to live in flesh without the spirit. Now here is where the false doctrine originates from. (Gal. 3:10) For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. What is this book they speak of? Well lets let the bible explain itself and not make our own assumptions. Lets see is it the 10 commandments, that can't be GOD came down as a consuming fire and wrote them with his own finger in stone (not a book). What about (Deu. 31:26) Take this book(again not 10 commandments) of the law, and put it in the side ( not in) of the ark of the covenant of the lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. You can read Deu. 31 if you want to know more of this book their is a song written in it as a witness against children of Israel (again not 10 commandments). Now lets reiterate what we have already established. Gods commandments are good, holy, just(not a curse and against thee). Lets read commandment 5 together Honor thy mother and father, that your days may be long in the land the lord your god gives you. Does that sound like blessing or curse,for you or against you(rhetorical). Now the true curse that's nailed to cross (Col. 2:14) 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances (webster- an authoritative decree or direction; a prescribed usage, practice, or ceremony) that was against us (not 10 commandments they're holy), which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. I got it these are without a doubt the ceremonial ordinances one had to practice and follow to become justified and cleansed in the sight of the lord (circumcision, sacrifices, etc.) but we don't live in the flesh under the law of sin and death we live by the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. Christ's final sacrifice erased all those burdens of living under that old law (in flesh) which was the curse not God's holy, just, divine, commandments which when we are obedient to are a blessing. So do we follow and keep Gods commandments to be justified and secure salvation nooo! That is only received through life in Christ. So lets see what holy spirit teaches now that we have exsposed this lie of Satan which is false doctrine. First lets find out where Gods commandments are surely not blotted out I found them now put your hand over your heart now you found them and are they not embedded in your mind. (Heb. 10:14-16) For by one offering (Jesus Christ) he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that i will make with them after those days, saith the Lord (not man); I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them. God also says (1 John 5:3) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. (1 John 2:3-7) 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment, which you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you have heard from the beginning. Read parable of the unprofitable servant (Luke 17:5-10) to see we are doing will of god when we keep his commandments. So here's warning about false teachers (Col. 2:8) Beware lest any man spoil (hold you captive) you through (so called) philosophy vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments (principles) of the world, and not after Christ. We in the spirit stay ( Col. 2:7) Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. And this is how we may discern ( daily by experience) that we are coming to know him- to perceive, recognize, understand and become better acquainted with him- if we keep ( bear in mind, observe, practice) His teachings (precepts, commandments) so that Christ's life may be lived in us and through us and I pray all of you who received this in the spirit that know this is Spirit of truth in me that shares this with you. (Psalm 1) 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doeth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. (Isa. 40:8) The grass withereth, the flower fadeth, but the word of our god shall stand forever. And this is for all who Don't understand (1 Cor. 2:14) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. ( Mat. 5:17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (Then there is a new beginning)
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The law and the jots and tittles spoken of by Jesus was the Mosaic. That passed away with the old covenant in the 1st century. The letter to the Hebrews explains that the old was on the verge of passing away when the letter was written.

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

The new covenant is in place and has been for nearly 2000 years.
 
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The law and the jots and tittles spoken of by Jesus was the Mosaic. That passed away with the old covenant in the 1st century. The letter to the Hebrews explains that the old was on the verge of passing away when the letter was written.

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

The new covenant is in place and has been for nearly 2000 years.
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Im sorry you lost me.
 
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Ultimateprepper said:
Im sorry you lost me.
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At which point did I lose you? The old covenant/law is gone, it was ready to vanish away as the letter to the Hebrews (followers of the law) states. The whole letter is about the supremacy of the new testament which was being established back then, even when Christ gave His life to bring it in.
 
Dino246

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Ultimateprepper said:
That's the spirits interpretation not mine I cant understand without it.
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I don't know how long you (claim to) have been a Christian, but the attitude you are displaying is common among newbies who have a little bit of head knowledge but have not developed any humility to temper it. Claiming that what you believe is "the spirits (sic) interpretation" shuts your mind to correction.

You said that you were here to discuss the Scriptures, not to argue; your actions consistently belie that. I can assure you that even if your understanding were correct (I don't agree), your method certainly isn't. Dismissing anyone who disagrees as "not having the Spirit" is nothing but arrogant. You ain't Paul, and you certainly ain't Jesus.
 
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