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GaryA

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do you actually know any homeless people?
most of them come from abusive backgrounds , especially street children and have no where to go. If they go 'home', they are beat up.
I have been homeless myself ('on the street'); albeit, not for any [really] long periods of time.

I don't think I presently know any people who are homeless. If I did, I would probably try to help them. (depending on the circumstances)

Keep in mind that my reply to @Genipher (that you quoted) was specifically addressing homeless people that prefer to be homeless.

I know that there are many more that did/do not make that choice - but, were unwillingly forced into that condition by something out of their [immediate] control.

I know I was...
 

GaryA

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Start the thread, I'd be interested and participating if I have any thoughts of my own :)
I'll see if I can find a time when 'have enough time' coincides with 'have enough energy' (haha) - 'busy' and 'tired' seem to be going hand-in-hand as of late...

I may have to write it in parts.

The nature of the 'system' that I believe Jesus will establish would be the first part - and take the least time to write.

Just exactly how this would translate into the current 'reality' - well, there is a lot more to it - and, it would take a lot more time.
 

Genipher

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do you actually know any homeless people?
most of them come from abusive backgrounds , especially street children and have no where to go. If they go 'home', they are beat up.
Personally, we have invited a few into our home before and they've all said they prefer not being responsible for things like rent, bills, a day-to-day job, etc. 🤷
 

Genipher

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I want someone to invent a foldable rocking chair. Something lightweight but sturdy, so when I go out visiting friends or family, I can rock my baby to sleep.
 

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I have worked and ministered to the needs of homeless quite a bit of my life. There's no pat answer, at least not in the United States most long term (over 6 months) homeless people have either issues with mental illness, substance abuse or both. I'm not talking about the many who live in motels, lodges or RV's. I'm talking about those who live off of the grid in homeless shelters, camps, behind dumpsters. Many in inner-city culverts, under bridges and or in abandoned cars as well as bushes.

Many can't stay clean & sober for a night so they can't stay in rescue missions often or long either. Malnutrition and lack of sound sleep compounds their psychosis and or they don't take their meds. (Or have any to take)

“To get a man soundly saved it is not enough to put on him a pair of new breeches, to give him regular work, or even to give him a University education. These things are all outside a man, and if the inside remains unchanged you have wasted your labor. You must in some way or other graft upon the man's nature a new nature, which has in it the element of the Divine.”

— William Booth
 

GaryA

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I want someone to invent a foldable rocking chair. Something lightweight but sturdy, so when I go out visiting friends or family, I can rock my baby to sleep.
Someone has...

Here is just one example:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011JKM6TW

Do an internet search. There are several out there to choose from.
 

SoulWeaver

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if you are going to invent something please share what it is, I always thought clever inventions ought to be shared so that everyone could benefit. Dont keep it to yourself.

about the you tube thing, I thought I already had ad blocker and there were still ads showing on you tube.
I have not tried the Brave browser, might give it a go.

I am pretty sure there must be mothers who care that don't nag. I mean fathers dont, and they also care, so why do mothers do it?
Fathers can and do nag, trust me.
 

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....an affordable lightweight electric bike
....a colour coded pencil/crayon/pen organiser
....clear durable book covers that arent sticky plastic
.....a non-nagging mother
....affordable dentistry
....fashionable bonnets for women
.....shoes that dont wear out
...you-tube without ads
.....a universal income or a living wage
.....non smelling compostable toilet
....a zero-waste city
....fresh bread and milk delivery to your door
....meals included as payment for any job you do thats over 4 hours
.....silent lawnmowers
....dresses/skirts with pockets
....5 minute sermons tops so theres no chance of falling asleep in them
...or a loud church bell that rings at the end of it

I just want life to be a little easier...!
.... Heated keyboards for computers in winter so my hands can type without freezing..
 

Lanolin

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Personally, we have invited a few into our home before and they've all said they prefer not being responsible for things like rent, bills, a day-to-day job, etc. 🤷
well nobody really does, I think people just get used to living rough if they dont have a home.
when you renting, its not really your home anyway. Its the landlords.

Home is where you dont need to pay rent.

when we go home to heaven...we are not going to be paying any bills.
 

Lanolin

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I am a father and we never nag, so please show me where we nag, show me I ask you, you can't can you... we never nag, never in a million years :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
my dad never nagged
He might have threatened and punched me once, but he never nagged....! if I didnt do something he just assumed I forgot and let it go. It would then be my own fault if I didnt do the thing I forgot to do.
 

GaryA

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I may have to write it in parts.

1) The nature of the 'system' that I believe Jesus will establish would be the first part - and take the least time to write.

2) Just exactly how this would translate into the current 'reality' - well, there is a lot more to it - and, it would take a lot more time.
PART 1

(The short version.)

The 'system' that I believe Jesus will establish will be based on 'love' and not 'greed'. There will be no 'technology'; it will have been utterly destroyed; everything will be "set back" at least two or three centuries, if not one or two millennia. Everyone will work with their hands. There will be no money - not in a physical form nor in an abstract form. Bartering will not even exist. Payment for work will exist in a 'privilege-for-effort' form - whereby, the only requirement is that you 'contribute'. As long as you contribute, you have the privilege to obtain whatever you need and want.

The only "regulation" on this would be from things like "how you treat your neighbor", etc. - i.e. - "if you behave yourself, and make a sufficient worthwhile contribution to society, you can have anything you want" (not quite this literally, perhaps, but this is the 'base' idea) - and - the nature of the work.

The more "nasty" or "dangerous" the work you do, the higher 'rank' of privilege you hold.

Using today's system to illustrate - someone who emptied bedpans all day "for a living" would have a higher 'rank' of privilege than a politican or someone who spent their day in a clean office environment.

This is an almost complete 'flip' of what we have today. (because the system we have today is based on 'greed' and not 'love')

The system we have today is 'greed' driven, and says:

I want to do the least and get paid the most - and let those who are "less fortunate" in "playing the game" do all of the dirty work.

A system that is 'love' driven says:

Anyone who has a 'worse' job than mine should rightfully have a certain amount of 'privilege' - that I am more-than-happy for them to have - because, I am grateful that I am not doing that job.

People who were willing to do the 'worse' jobs would be respected for their willingness and given a higher 'rank' of privilege.

The 'rank' of privilege would then come into play when necessary to decide/determine priority in certain conflict situations where "things" are concerned. As an example - we have 47 'widgets' currently available and 53 people who want one. (Six people would have to wait until tomorrow or next week to get their 'widget'.)

This is a system where - everything is "payed for" by 'effort' - and, once something is "payed for" - "it is payed for" - no one has to "pay for it" again.

Once something is produced (i.e. - a man builds a piece of furniture, such as a chair) - it can only be 'given' to someone - and then someone else - and then someone else - etc. It may never be 'sold' - it must always be 'given'.

The central idea and main concept of this 'system' is:

Nothing will be 'bought' or 'sold' - all things will be 'given'.

To understand this 'system' properly, you must learn how to separate yourself from what you have been used to all of your life.

Everything we know and do is predicated on a lie. Satan has twisted things up so severly that it is difficult for people to think about this kind of thing in any other way than what we are all used to.

So, if you find yourself thinking "This will not work.", then your thinking is still too deep into the current paradigm.

And, for "a more perfect understanding", you need to understand the base difference between 'effort' and 'work'.

Can you see how all of this is the exact opposite of what Satan wants?

This 'system' represents "what really should be" - and, I believe it is [at least] "somewhere close" to what Jesus will establish after He returns.

~

How this system - which would be a complete-and-total "paradigm shift" - would translate into the current 'reality' is what PART 2 is about.

(may not get written any time soon)
 

Lanolin

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i love it.
PART 1

(The short version.)

The 'system' that I believe Jesus will establish will be based on 'love' and not 'greed'. There will be no 'technology'; it will have been utterly destroyed; everything will be "set back" at least two or three centuries, if not one or two millennia. Everyone will work with their hands. There will be no money - not in a physical form nor in an abstract form. Bartering will not even exist. Payment for work will exist in a 'privilege-for-effort' form - whereby, the only requirement is that you 'contribute'. As long as you contribute, you have the privilege to obtain whatever you need and want.

The only "regulation" on this would be from things like "how you treat your neighbor", etc. - i.e. - "if you behave yourself, and make a sufficient worthwhile contribution to society, you can have anything you want" (not quite this literally, perhaps, but this is the 'base' idea) - and - the nature of the work.

The more "nasty" or "dangerous" the work you do, the higher 'rank' of privilege you hold.

Using today's system to illustrate - someone who emptied bedpans all day "for a living" would have a higher 'rank' of privilege than a politican or someone who spent their day in a clean office environment.

This is an almost complete 'flip' of what we have today. (because the system we have today is based on 'greed' and not 'love')

The system we have today is 'greed' driven, and says:

I want to do the least and get paid the most - and let those who are "less fortunate" in "playing the game" do all of the dirty work.

A system that is 'love' driven says:

Anyone who has a 'worse' job than mine should rightfully have a certain amount of 'privilege' - that I am more-than-happy for them to have - because, I am grateful that I am not doing that job.

People who were willing to do the 'worse' jobs would be respected for their willingness and given a higher 'rank' of privilege.

The 'rank' of privilege would then come into play when necessary to decide/determine priority in certain conflict situations where "things" are concerned. As an example - we have 47 'widgets' currently available and 53 people who want one. (Six people would have to wait until tomorrow or next week to get their 'widget'.)

This is a system where - everything is "payed for" by 'effort' - and, once something is "payed for" - "it is payed for" - no one has to "pay for it" again.

Once something is produced (i.e. - a man builds a piece of furniture, such as a chair) - it can only be 'given' to someone - and then someone else - and then someone else - etc. It may never be 'sold' - it must always be 'given'.

The central idea and main concept of this 'system' is:

Nothing will be 'bought' or 'sold' - all things will be 'given'.

To understand this 'system' properly, you must learn how to separate yourself from what you have been used to all of your life.

Everything we know and do is predicated on a lie. Satan has twisted things up so severly that it is difficult for people to think about this kind of thing in any other way than what we are all used to.

So, if you find yourself thinking "This will not work.", then your thinking is still too deep into the current paradigm.

And, for "a more perfect understanding", you need to understand the base difference between 'effort' and 'work'.

Can you see how all of this is the exact opposite of what Satan wants?

This 'system' represents "what really should be" - and, I believe it is [at least] "somewhere close" to what Jesus will establish after He returns.

~

How this system - which would be a complete-and-total "paradigm shift" - would translate into the current 'reality' is what PART 2 is about.

(may not get written any time soon)
God is so clever and amazing. He must have known my hearts desire and this world is just a pale shadow of what life could REALLY be like.
 

Lanolin

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one thing I read recently that struck me..in a quaker pamphlet

people in the west have heroes that go from being poor to being rich, yet eastern peoples heroes are those who were rich and became poor.

Jesus definitley was someone who was rich in heaven yet very poor on earth, born in a lowly stable, no crib for a bed...he was a refugee, worked a trade, then was homeless for much of his ministry, he didnt have any money and couldnt afford a lawyer or a decent burial!
 

GaryA

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Some time after I submitted post #36, I realized that I was supposed to start a new thread. Sorry - I did not mean to take over your thread or any such thing...

If you would like, I will move/take it to another thread. :)
 

Lanolin

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Some time after I submitted post #36, I realized that I was supposed to start a new thread. Sorry - I did not mean to take over your thread or any such thing...

If you would like, I will move/take it to another thread. :)
sure sounds interesting

I havent thought of any new inventions other than the ones Ive posted but if anyone else has feel free to post them here.

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