Are we still suppose to keep all Ten Commandments?

[Ultimateprepper]

All of them.

Again what christian says this?

I don't cause discord or judge Im not going to attack someone's beliefs just because they don't agree with me im just stating something I've heard that I think is a misconception not to offend but that we can learn what gods word says together. I just feel there are alot of dogmatic ideologies around and its there view or no view.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't cause discord or judge Im not going to attack someone's beliefs just because they don't agree with me im just stating something I've heard that I think is a misconception not to offend but that we can learn what gods word says together. I just feel there are alot of dogmatic ideologies around and its there view or no view.

See though, saying a command was nailed to the cross just means breaking that command can not condemn you any more

its not the same as saying a command is no longer valid

if we break any moral command given, it is still A sin with ramifications

i think it is error to claim because someone thinks a sin is nailed or can’t condemn us they think it ok to go live in sin.

 

[Corban]

Heb. 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. That's what Gods word says but I find it hard to believe that a born again Christian would return to a life of sin after being freed maybe some just lose their faith.

The meaning of the grammar is that under Law, a man could sacrifice a sheep on Monday, and sacrifice two turtle doves on Friday. The following Tuesday it was serious and he needed a bullock. But once you have embraced Christ you cannot sacrifice again, again and again for "there is only ONE-for-all Sacrifice AND there is no other sacrifice available".

Hebrews was written because EX-Jews who had embraced Christ were persecuted and lost their possessions. They said to themselves; "Under Moses a man who was obedient prospered. His wealth and well-being increased. But under Christ, if a man is obedient, he loses his money, his freedom, his peace and even his life. Come ... let us return to Moses!" Under Moses a man could sacrifice for this, and there "remained" almost unlimited possibilities for the future. But Christ is ONE once-for-all sacrifice and there "remains" no other.

 

[Ultimateprepper]

Well check the context of this.. the kind of sacrifice running through chapter 10 is mostly animal sacrifice

Heb. 10:12-17 Is clearly talking about Jesus as final offering for sin.

 

[Anywhoo]

I don't cause discord or judge Im not going to attack someone's beliefs just because they don't agree with me im just stating something I've heard that I think is a misconception not to offend but that we can learn what gods word says together. I just feel there are alot of dogmatic ideologies around and its there view or no view.

Did you intend to multi-post here.

 

[Ultimateprepper]

Did you intend to multi-post here.

If you ask for response then I usually comment.

 

[Corban]

The seems to be a pervading belief that because the Christian is not under Law, and under Grace, he has a free ride. I would point out what Hebrews 2:2-3 says;

2 "For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him"

Verse 2 alludes to the Law, and verse 3 alludes to our salvation. Israel were chastised very grievously. Dear fellow Christian, don't think that we will escape disobedience to the INDWELLING Holy Spirit. In Matthew 7:21-23 there were some men who believed in Jesus for they called Him "Lord, Lord". They did miracles in their lifetime IN HIS NAME and they cast out demons - a "sign" that they were Christians (Mk.16:17). But they did them on their own accord and were called "workers of iniquity". Their works were not wrong. THEY were wrong. In the gospels and Acts 1 we Christians are given the so-called "great commission" - to preach Christ. In Acts 16 Paul wanted to carry this commission out, but the Spirit wanted something else. If Paul has gone to Asia and preached Christ would he be a hero, or would he be a "worker of iniquity"?

 

[SophieT]

Sorry for confusion is what I meant and I never said holy spirit desires to sin for in the spirit is no sin nor does the spirit tempt anyone to sin. I was talking about Christians who don't think Gods commandments are valid because they say they're saved by grace through faith. I keep Gods commandments in my heart where he put them after the final sacrifice.

I know what you never said. It's not there. I was commenting on what you actually did say/post. My question was who are those Christians ie. where have you heard those things.

 

[Ultimateprepper]

I know what you never said. It's not there. I was commenting on what you actually did say/post. My question was who are those Christians ie. where have you heard those things.

All I usually watch or read is of Christian material and its just something I feel alot of people have a misconception about so im open-minded to everyone's thoughts. And if you think I was referring to you which is the vibe im getting I wasn't.

 

[Anywhoo]

Did you intend to multi-post here.

I don't know what I'm replying about.

 

[Duskey]

Heb. 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. That's what Gods word says but I find it hard to believe that a born again Christian would return to a life of sin after being freed maybe some just lose their faith.

Then sadly no one is saved because no one remains sinless after receiving the knowledge of the truth.

 

[Blik]

Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. O look saved believers keeping Gods commandments even at the end of days I guess they should have listened to you and all who agree with you that they don't need to do that I guess true believers never learn.

n In a commentary of Rev. 12:17, Ellicott has this to say: "he can assail Christians by a thousand discomforts, by petty opposition, by undermining their morals, by making them unpopular, not as Christians, but as “very particular” Christians: for those thus assailed are they who “keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus.”

 

[Ultimateprepper]

n In a commentary of Rev. 12:17, Ellicott has this to say: "he can assail Christians by a thousand discomforts, by petty opposition, by undermining their morals, by making them unpopular, not as Christians, but as “very particular” Christians: for those thus assailed are they who “keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus.”

Im sorry my razzing sometimes comes off as sarcasm I promise I meant no ill will and I shouldn't make light of the worst time on earth I know im flawed.

 

[Ultimateprepper]

Yes, the two commands

or what many of us call, the law of Love, which is what a true believer should be following,

What about seventh day Sabbath which he said to remember and keep holy do we forget it.

 

[Ultimateprepper]

n In a commentary of Rev. 12:17, Ellicott has this to say: "he can assail Christians by a thousand discomforts, by petty opposition, by undermining their morals, by making them unpopular, not as Christians, but as “very particular” Christians: for those thus assailed are they who “keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus.”

The Lord let me know I was out of line I shouldn't be so quick to prove a point and not think of your feelings. I hope you forgive me and I think we can agree we are not under the condemnation of sin in Christ's sacrifice but made righteous through his spirit. Im just trying to learn gods word and there are so many different doctrines I want the right one gods truth.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What about seventh day Sabbath which he said to remember and keep holy do we forget it.

If I follow the law of love, I am following the law.

how would the sabbath fit in, and can we really as required keep the sabbath?

 

[peldom10]

What laws were nailed to cross.

If I understand your use of...nailed to the Cross....none.

Christs' death on the Cross was payment under certain conditions....for our sins that we may commit.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If I understand your use of...nailed to the Cross....none.

Christs' death on the Cross was payment under certain conditions....for our sins that we may commit.

Do what?

 

[Ultimateprepper]

All I usually watch or read is of Christian material and its just something I feel alot of people have a misconception about so im open-minded to everyone's thoughts. And if you think I was referring to you which is the vibe im getting I wasn't.

If I follow the law of love, I am following the law.

how would the sabbath fit in, and can we really as required keep the sabbath?

I just started new thread on topic you can convince me there.

 

[Blik]

Then sadly no one is saved because no one remains sinless after receiving the knowledge of the truth.

Read what Paul says about this: Romans 7: 21
I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong.

22 I love God’s law with all my heart.

23 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me.

24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?

25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin.

We sin, but if we are truly saved we have Christ in our hearts and we cannot live with wanting to sin and live a life with Christ who cannot sin or have anything to do with it.