Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

[PennEd]

Trying to make people think God wants you to warn them that they will be doing something sinful and against the Lord by taking a vaccine means that you don't believe that the facts are sufficient to give them the information they need to make an informed decision so you must attempt to persuade them by making them think they are going to be rejecting the warning of the prophet (Ezek 33) if they decide to get a vaccine.

This is what I know.

The Lord does not want us to alter His creation, that He made in His own Image, on a genetic level.

The last time “all flesh had corrupted ITSELF “ God had to destroy the World through the Flood.

If these days are not shortened, no flesh will be saved.
True.
Human.
Unaltered.
Flesh.

 

[Scribe]

This is what I know.

The Lord does not want us to alter His creation, that He made in His own Image, on a genetic level.

The last time “all flesh had corrupted ITSELF “ God had to destroy the World through the Flood.

If these days are not shortened, no flesh will be saved.
True.
Human.
Unaltered.
Flesh.

And I submit for your consideration that:

1) the vaccine does not alter the DNA, the mRNA is a piece of genetic code that is read by our cells but that is not the same as RNA interacting with or changing DNA. You consume mRNA in your diet. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what mRNA is. If you read the science behind it you will learn that it cannot change DNA. Therefore your sources have lied to you.

and 2) God did not destroy the earth because man had changed his DNA by mixing with angels, that is an erroneous interpretation, God destroyed the earth because he had corrupted himself in a moral way and embraced and followed after every sort of wickedness continuously.

If I am correct then what you think you know is not going to pan out to be true.

 

[GaryA]

At this point I would feel much more like I was operating in the Love and compassion of Jesus Christ if I were to help old people get vaccinated than if I were to tell them not to.

In other words, helping them along to go be with the Lord a lot sooner...?

 

[GaryA]

We each have to answer to God according to the illumination we have been given.

And that is why PennEd (and others) are trying to "sound the warning" all-the-more.

You have been "given" a-whole-lotta-illumination; only, you refuse to open your eyes to see it.

 

[Scribe]

And that is why PennEd (and others) are trying to "sound the warning" all-the-more.

You have been "given" a-whole-lotta-illumination; only, you refuse to open your eyes to see it.

Blow your trumpets. If the data is easy to expose as inaccurate don't be surprised if people shoot it down with facts. Emotional religious rhetoric while posting false information will not make it factual.

 

[TruthSeekerJG]

Handling the word of God deceitfully. This scripture does not apply to warning people to not take a vaccine that will protect them from getting sick and dying from the COVID-19 virus and if one person dies because they listened to your bad advice even using false interpretations to persuade them, their blood will indeed be on your hands. You brazen shamelessness disturbs me.

Unless we understand that the vaccine/vaccines can be apart of a deception that does more harm then good. There is someone who is out there to steal, kill, and destroy. He’s also the prince of this world.

Those of us who don’t blindly follow mainstream media as THE source of Truth, when we can critically think for ourselves and weigh the facts. Not just copy and paste articles as concrete fact. We got to critically think about it.

Just like the CNN article you presented. It talked about an unhealthy lifestyle, obesity, etc, which is exactly what I mean. This whole pandemic is a scam. Again, I would say cardiovascular disease is more of a pandemic. The WHO changed the definition of pandemic and delegated it to how many cases vs mortality rates. It’s a joke!

I also understand that health workers do intend to do good, yet, they don’t even know what these drug manufactures are producing. They’re just pretty much told that it works. That’s Big Pharma and Vaccines. There have been many cases where families have won lawsuits for certain vaccines that caused serious damage.

Seriously, does it sound kosher to inject multiple chemicals into an 8 week year old, let alone an elderly person? Babies are developing their immune system already and elderly already have weak immune systems. So in the older vaccines we can inject dead by-products of the disease and in the new vaccine we can just inject a synthetic mRNA, which can possibly change the natural response of the system already writing a code to adapt to the virus. We’re by-passing the system with these injections. Wake up!

 

[Scribe]

Unless we understand that the vaccine/vaccines can be apart of a deception that does more harm then good. There is someone who is out there to steal, kill, and destroy. He’s also the prince of this world.

Those of us who don’t blindly follow mainstream media as THE source of Truth, when we can critically think for ourselves and weigh the facts. Not just copy and paste articles as concrete fact. We got to critically think about it.

Just like the CNN article you presented. It talked about an unhealthy lifestyle, obesity, etc, which is exactly what I mean. This whole pandemic is a scam. Again, I would say cardiovascular disease is more of a pandemic. The WHO changed the definition of pandemic and delegated it to how many cases vs mortality rates. It’s a joke!

I also understand that health workers do intend to do good, yet, they don’t even know what these drug manufactures are producing. They’re just pretty much told that it works. That’s Big Pharma and Vaccines. There have been many cases where families have won lawsuits for certain vaccines that caused serious damage.

Seriously, does it sound kosher to inject multiple chemicals into an 8 week year old, let alone an elderly person? Babies are developing their immune system already and elderly already have weak immune systems. So in the older vaccines we can inject dead by-products of the disease and in the new vaccine we can just inject a synthetic mRNA, which can possibly change the natural response of the system already writing a code to adapt to the virus. We’re by-passing the system with these injections. Wake up!

I think the scientific papers written by the immunologist and virologist, medical organizations, university studies, science journals, CDC, FDA, results of safety testing, history of vaccines studies done since the 80s to answer the antivaxxer movement false accusations and all those involved in the actual vaccines in question are a the better source material than people in chat rooms including myself. I say get and education. For some that might mean community college courses to learn what they failed to learn in High School. Learning how to find credible sources. It's never too late to learn.

I think avoiding entertainment helps to get a grip on reality. I have not watched any TV in years. I do not watch movies. As a result I have been astounded at how much time people spend entertaining themselves with mindless, unrealistic entertainment and then discuss things from that same perspective of a reality adapted by fantasy TV.

 

[PennEd]

And I submit for your consideration that:

1) the vaccine does not alter the DNA, the mRNA is a piece of genetic code that is read by our cells but that is not the same as RNA interacting with or changing DNA. You consume mRNA in your diet. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what mRNA is. If you read the science behind it you will learn that it cannot change DNA. Therefore your sources have lied to you.

and 2) God did not destroy the earth because man had changed his DNA by mixing with angels, that is an erroneous interpretation, God destroyed the earth because he had corrupted himself in a moral way and embraced and followed after every sort of wickedness continuously.

If I am correct then what you think you know is not going to pan out to be true.

Not going to argue Genesis 6 with you. It is willful ignorance to not believe that fallen angels mated with human women, begetting the nephilim.

 

[Moses_Young]

I don't push it. I focus on what is provable science and facts.

If there are adverse affects I will acknowledge that they have been uncovered, discovered, or have occurred. I just don't embrace hysteria and lies from antivaxxers with no proof just because they WANT vaccines to fail.

Here's some real science for you, that the governments are too corrupt to do, and demonstrably-fraudulent Big Pharma don't want people to know. Unvaccinated children are 10 times less sick than the vaccinated children.

And you wonder why there are not more peer-reviewed studies like this? Censorship. The doctor who performed the study had his medical licence suspended for publishing science which contradicts the vaccines-are-good fable.

This study would be easy to replicate, and would likely be more damning to vaccines. That it isn't replicated is proof of the conspiracy to hide the dangers of vaccination.



https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674/pdf

 

[EleventhHour]

God did not destroy the earth because man had changed his DNA by mixing with angels, that is an erroneous interpretation, God destroyed the earth because he had corrupted himself in a moral way and embraced and followed after every sort of wickedness continuously.

Amen and Amen

 

[Scribe]

Here's some real science for you, that the governments are too corrupt to do, and demonstrably-fraudulent Big Pharma don't want people to know. Unvaccinated children are 10 times less sick than the vaccinated children.

And you wonder why there are not more peer-reviewed studies like this? Censorship. The doctor who performed the study had his medical licence suspended for publishing science which contradicts the vaccines-are-good fable.

This study would be easy to replicate, and would likely be more damning to vaccines. That it isn't replicated is proof of the conspiracy to hide the dangers of vaccination.

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https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674/pdf

I am probably not understanding the paper.
There are more vaccinated children. The number of patients will always be more vaccinated that unvaccinated.
The number of office visits would always be higher for vaccinated children because there are more of them.

If he is saying that this study is recording children that come to the office who had a fever but were not vaccinated were less than that ones that were vaccinated it would only have meaning if all of the children in that community were evenly split between vaccinated and unvaccinated. But that is not the case, there are less unvaccinated and therefore there will be less unvaccinated coming to his office with a fever.

 

[EleventhHour]

I am probably not understanding the paper.
There are more vaccinated children. The number of patients will always be more vaccinated that unvaccinated.
The number of office visits would always be higher for vaccinated children because there are more of them.

If he is saying that this study is recording children that come to the office who had a fever but were not vaccinated were less than that ones that were vaccinated it would only have meaning if all of the children in that community were evenly split between vaccinated and unvaccinated. But that is not the case, there are less unvaccinated and therefore there will be less unvaccinated coming to his office with a fever.

A retrospective study, again very limited.
Also based a parent surveys which again can skew results.
And a conflict of interest notation.
And I am sure I could find more if I had the time to actually look at their statistical analysis

Conflicts of Interest: J.L.W. has, in the past, been but is no longer a compensated expert witness in cases in the US National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. P.T. receives income in the form of royalties from the sale of his book, and he receives income from the sale and administration of vaccines in his practice. P.T. is the owner of Integrative Pediatrics, the population for this study, and is the author of the book “The Vaccine-Friendly Plan: Dr. Paul’s Safe and Effective Approach to Immunity and Health—from Pregnancy Through Your Child’s Teen Years” by Balantine Books 2016.

 

[EleventhHour]

And I submit for your consideration that:

1) the vaccine does not alter the DNA, the mRNA is a piece of genetic code that is read by our cells but that is not the same as RNA interacting with or changing DNA. You consume mRNA in your diet. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what mRNA is. If you read the science behind it you will learn that it cannot change DNA. Therefore your sources have lied to you.

and 2) God did not destroy the earth because man had changed his DNA by mixing with angels, that is an erroneous interpretation, God destroyed the earth because he had corrupted himself in a moral way and embraced and followed after every sort of wickedness continuously.

If I am correct then what you think you know is not going to pan out to be true.

Going on a diet can be said to change DNA.

 

[TruthSeekerJG]

I think the scientific papers written by the immunologist and virologist, medical organizations, university studies, science journals, CDC, FDA, results of safety testing, history of vaccines studies done since the 80s to answer the antivaxxer movement false accusations and all those involved in the actual vaccines in question are a the better source material than people in chat rooms including myself. I say get and education. For some that might mean community college courses to learn what they failed to learn in High School. Learning how to find credible sources. It's never too late to learn.

I think avoiding entertainment helps to get a grip on reality. I have not watched any TV in years. I do not watch movies. As a result I have been astounded at how much time people spend entertaining themselves with mindless, unrealistic entertainment and then discuss things from that same perspective of a reality adapted by fantasy TV.

Likewise, used to waste my time mindlessly watching movies. Definitely used to be a movie fanatic, worldly movies at that, not to say that so-called Christian movies are any better. Yet, at the same time, I've learned that the media is one of the conduits that satan uses in order to push his antichrist worldly doctrine. Not to say that all media is bad. There are better alternative sources than the mainstream. Also don't just watch anybody. These are actual Doctors and professionals with PhDs that know what's going on and realized the deception of Big Pharma and payed off professionals. Again, there are huge payoffs for those that perpetuate a lie. What do those have to gain by exposing big money? NADA! What did the disciples gain for exposing the lies of the religious elite? Nothing, except persecution and death. Not saying that I'm asking for it, or any of us are just going out on a limb just to be a martyr, but we realize there's something wrong. If you or anybody else can prove that vaccines are 100% reliable, including knowing the long term effects? I would like to be proven wrong and wake up from this nightmare, but biblically it's gonna get more exciting.

Also not saying that education is bad, just depends on the mindset/perception that it came from. Unfortunately mainstream science is under control of the evolution mindset. It's in all public schools (elementary, junior high, high-school, and college). It's also an assumption that we have to go to a specific college just to gain knowledge. There are great resources online to self educate. Some of the greatest minds were self taught... Instead of going through a specific set of curriculums that are controlled by who? Unless we are able to go to a Bible believing Christian college that provides the alternative. Also expensive too, unless we can get grants or financial aide. There's also another deception. College also proves nothing, because a good majority just try to get by in order to receive that paper. Yes, it's great to have it and in turn allows us to have credibility, but it's mainly used to boast of having it and expecting high pay. Worked at a gym and was literally looked down upon by a physical therapist, yet, he didn't really know how to workout. Takes experience, instead of head knowledge, which we barely retain unless we practice.

Experts that have an alternative view from the mainstream worldly mindset don't have access to the government funds. Maybe some do, but majority don't. So all we can go by is sifting through the mass information and weigh the facts, while exercising common sense. YouTube has also been a way for these experts to share their information as well. Not just some guy in a white lab coat. That's just a generalization to dismiss credible resources. We can also go back in history and see that there was already decline in viruses before a vaccine was already rolled out. Did you know that doctors were going from one surgery to the next while they still had blood on their hands? So the guideline about washing blood or to not touch blood in the Word is just to set Israel apart? It's a universal concept. Likewise with everything else.

Just hope for the best! Again, keep us posted. Hope it cures this disease that has less than a 1% mortality rate and about a 95-99% survivability. Prayers!

 

[OneFromHisFlock]

I have read some postive things about the most recent vaccine tests from Moderna and Pfyzer, I think they are two different kinds, I am not sure because the published news stories never go very deep into explaining how they work but I know that they are reporting boost of T Cells and B Cells that have the capability of creating the antibodies at a later time after they fade from initial vaccine. So if the virus shows up at a later time they have memory to create the antibody when needed. So the fact that the antibody fades out after vaccination is normal and not a problem.

I've heard that the Covid-19 vaccine isn't even intended to prevent/cure it. What it's supposed to do is suppress the symptoms and make them more manageable. From all of the resources I have, it sounds like there's some kind of unknown "properties" within the vaccine. They have to store it at -70 degrees Celsius, there are multiple people who suffered stroke-like symptoms during the trials, and overall, there is far too much unknown with little to no benefit for me to ever agree to taking it.

 

[shittim]

Vee Verr only following Der Fuehrers orders

 

[OneFromHisFlock]

Great! one less person in line. lol. Who in government do you think has the authority to force
a person to get this? I am positive that there are 100's of millions of Christians praying daily for the cure...

I absolutely disagree. Why would Christians be praying for a cure in the form of a man-made vaccine for a "disease" that's little worse than our annual flu? The same people who are at risk of flu/pneumonia complications are susceptible to Covid, but we're not requiring masks every winter season or creating a questionable inoculation at warp speed for those things...

 

[OneFromHisFlock]

Vee Verr only following Der Fuehrers orders

This is scary and true... Please share this on every social media page you have!

 

[Scribe]

I've heard that the Covid-19 vaccine isn't even intended to prevent/cure it. What it's supposed to do is suppress the symptoms and make them more manageable. From all of the resources I have, it sounds like there's some kind of unknown "properties" within the vaccine. They have to store it at -70 degrees Celsius, there are multiple people who suffered stroke-like symptoms during the trials, and overall, there is far too much unknown with little to no benefit for me to ever agree to taking it.

You are replying to one of my old posts. I understand what these vaccines do now, and how they are made. Every molecule in the vaccine is clearly documented and can be read about. There is no unknown in it. The trials were successful and no one suffered any severe adverse reactions. Only mild fevers, headaches, muscle soreness as common in all vaccines when your immune system reacts.

Lies are floating around the internet where they take one piece of factual information and embellish it to say a lie. Google using keywords from whatever "resource" you have and chances are you will find fact check data or maybe the original report and can identify fact from exaggerations.

For example a quick google on alergic reactions to the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine that started distribution in UK last week will reveal a case of a person who had an allergic reaction that was known to be allergic and carried an epi pen. They are not supposed to be taking the vaccine. I don't know if they lied to the RN when asked about allergies in order to get it. These don't show up in trials because they dont allow people with known allergies to participate. An intellectually dishonest person will take this information and embellish it to say something that is a lie and not care. Others thinking that the resource is credible spread it and soon we have reports of people having face paralysis. But I don't really think people are so stupid that they can figure out fact from fiction. I personally have come to the conclusion that there are lots of people who don't care if the false report is a lie, they will spread it anyway just to scare people because they are convinced that vaccines are evil. Sort of the "end justifies the means" grants them an undisturbed conscience for spread lies.

If one reads how the mRNA genetic code is read by the human cell to create a spike protein that our immune system will then create an antibody to block it all sounds freaky enough that the factual data should be all one needs to decide "that's not for me"

I can totally understand why someone would not want an mRNA vaccine based on the actual science of how it works. There is no need make up false information or lie about it changing DNA etc. How it really works should be enough information if you want to freak someone out.

If I was an antivaxxer I would just present the data about how it works then ask a question like "Do you think this is a good idea?"
The creation of the Spike protein that your cell will create is not something that belongs in you and your immune system knows that and creates an antibody to block it. That by itself should be enough to "warn" people about. At least it is an honest warning.
I personally am trusting the science that it is not going to cause any long term issues as the mRNA is eliminated after it is used and the Spike protein is also deal with, but these particular details are all that is necessary to freak people out if that is what you want to do. No lies and crazy conspiracy theories are necessary.

When someone makes up lies to warn people they just make themselves liars and become more evil than whatever evil it is they perceive to be in the vaccine.

Trust me (or rather trust the scriptures) liars are much more of a concern with God than who gets a vaccine.

 

[Scribe]

I absolutely disagree. Why would Christians be praying for a cure in the form of a man-made vaccine for a "disease" that's little worse than our annual flu? The same people who are at risk of flu/pneumonia complications are susceptible to Covid, but we're not requiring masks every winter season or creating a questionable inoculation at warp speed for those things...

Most Christians are not antivaxxers. Antivaxxers are a minority. Surprise?