Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

[TruthSeekerJG]

We are fortunate this one was not one of the viruses that has a 90% mortality rate. People would not be talking about eating more broccoli then, they would be Praising God for a vaccine discovery with a 95% success rate. You don't appreciate this vaccine because not enough people are dying.

Telling people that if they eat right and exercise they will not get a virus that our immune system can't defeat isn't true. It would be lying. Don't be that guy.

Well, should be shutting down the whole world over a low mortality rate? .25% worldwide. Sorry, but don't put words into my mouth when in fact I just don't believe in vaccines PERIOD, because it can become detrimental to our immune system. There have been patients who have received vaccines throughout the years that have been severely damaged and death. Do we pay attention to that? Or are we in awe with technology and the hope of eradicating all disease through it. That's playing God.

I suppose I am already that guy and not worried about what other people think. Just know from personal experience that a junky lifestyle wears down the immunity that we already have. Used to get sick all the time from eating junk when I was younger. You also don't know for a fact that it's not true either. Don't be that guy!

 

[Reformed1689]

I'm not going to have a choice most likely on account of being a government employee. I plan to hold out as long as I can, but I guess I'll have to capitulate or get court-martialed. I'll let y'all know what happens.

 

[shittim]

Do what the Lord directs you to do and you will walk in His grace and protection forever, it may be in the Government employ, it may not, He always has the best plan and keeps His promises to His Own.

The goal of this life is to live to the Lord and go to our reward. We don't go home until He takes us home, if we are living with the indwelling Christ guiding us with every thought word and deed.
Of course He will allow us to live to ourselves and not give Him first place by driving to fast, drunk, or dangerously. Or taking a vaccine that was fast tracked with zero animal trials, Thalidomide was fast tracked as well.
Vaccines ramp up the immune system to respond to a threat and defeat it, when the immune system is depleted from this excess stimulation it can no longer respond as He intended.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11...id-19-vaccine-can-destroy-your-immune-system/

 

[Angela53510]

I am not allowed to have the vaccine for 2 reasons. The first is that I am immuno-compromised, and both the Canadian gov't and the BC gov't, (my home province) have forbidden anyone in my condition to take it until more is known about the vaccine. It wasn't tested on immune suppressed people, or pregnant and nursing moms, so those groups are not supposed to take it.

The second reason I am not taking it is because I have allergies. In Britain, on the first day the vaccine was given out, 2 people went into anaphylactic shock, and 2 others died. So, I definitely need to wait.

The thing I don't understand is, why the vaccine is even being distributed. It apparently only suppresses COVID, so you still get it, with milder symptoms. Plus, you are still a carrier, and can spread the virus, so you still have to wear the masks, sanitize etc. IMHO, this vaccine is not helping anyone. There are 5 genes that have been isolated, that show if you have those genes, you are going to get sick, and probably die. If you have none of those genes, you will end up not getting the disease, or being asymptomatic. People somewhere in the middle, will have lesser or greater symptoms, depending upon how the genes interact. It seems to me that gene therapy might be a better answer to stopping the disease.

I do agree the vaccine was done too quickly, I don't trust the methodology of how they make vaccines, and the law that says no vaccine manufacturers are liable for any damages that occur from their vaccine. So, they can give you whatever they want, and there will be no consequences. Now, we give millions to these companies who can just walk away from any side effects, unlike meds, that are thoroughly tested, and more than one drug has been sued or had class actions cases against them. Very shaky reasons for taking this vaccine.

 

[shittim]

Thank you Angela! This is great information and very useful.
There is also great research on Neuroplasticity showing that fear of acquiring an illness increases the probability of of coming down with it by 63%.
Dr. Caroline Leaf's work and many others support this, no wonder we are guided to 'fear not" over and over in scripture.
bless you

 

[Reformed1689]

I do agree the vaccine was done too quickly, I don't trust the methodology of how they make vaccines, and the law that says no vaccine manufacturers are liable for any damages that occur from their vaccine. So, they can give you whatever they want, and there will be no consequences. Now, we give millions to these companies who can just walk away from any side effects, unlike meds, that are thoroughly tested, and more than one drug has been sued or had class actions cases against them. Very shaky reasons for taking this vaccine.

I think this right here is where it's at. The processes for developing a vaccine usually are longer, and there is also time for folks to observe long-term consequences. I would hate to see this thing become mandatory without that information. It's also nerve-wrecking to consider that at least two of the four vaccines I've read up on use an RNA method of vaccination instead of dead or weakened cells from Covid-19. Several pieces of literature I've found indicate there aren't all that many RNA style vaccines available to base expectations off of.

 

[shittim]

Pretty obvious the communist Chinese instigated this weaponized virus attack on the world, Dr Phony Fauci created it with his gain of function research, has anyone heard of the communist chinese government using this vaccine for they're own people?

 

[Scribe]

I am not allowed to have the vaccine for 2 reasons. The first is that I am immuno-compromised, and both the Canadian gov't and the BC gov't, (my home province) have forbidden anyone in my condition to take it until more is known about the vaccine. It wasn't tested on immune suppressed people, or pregnant and nursing moms, so those groups are not supposed to take it.

The second reason I am not taking it is because I have allergies. In Britain, on the first day the vaccine was given out, 2 people went into anaphylactic shock, and 2 others died. So, I definitely need to wait.

The thing I don't understand is, why the vaccine is even being distributed. It apparently only suppresses COVID, so you still get it, with milder symptoms. Plus, you are still a carrier, and can spread the virus, so you still have to wear the masks, sanitize etc. IMHO, this vaccine is not helping anyone. There are 5 genes that have been isolated, that show if you have those genes, you are going to get sick, and probably die. If you have none of those genes, you will end up not getting the disease, or being asymptomatic. People somewhere in the middle, will have lesser or greater symptoms, depending upon how the genes interact. It seems to me that gene therapy might be a better answer to stopping the disease.

I do agree the vaccine was done too quickly, I don't trust the methodology of how they make vaccines, and the law that says no vaccine manufacturers are liable for any damages that occur from their vaccine. So, they can give you whatever they want, and there will be no consequences. Now, we give millions to these companies who can just walk away from any side effects, unlike meds, that are thoroughly tested, and more than one drug has been sued or had class actions cases against them. Very shaky reasons for taking this vaccine.

I would love to read your source for the two deaths. I have searched and came up with nothing. The two allergic reactions were under investigation. They did not use the words anaphylactic shock in the reports on the allergic reaction of the two from the UK vaccine that I found.

I did find that there were allergic reactions in trials from both groups even among those that received placebos. Of course they have always warned people with allergic reactions not to take vaccines so that is nothing new. Not sure why people are making it sound new.

 

[TruthSeekerJG]

Thank you Angela! This is great information and very useful.
There is also great research on Neuroplasticity showing that fear of acquiring an illness increases the probability of of coming down with it by 63%.
Dr. Caroline Leaf's work and many others support this, no wonder we are guided to 'fear not" over and over in scripture.
bless you

Wow!

 

[TruthSeekerJG]

Our scripture repeated teaches that illness is the attack of the enemy and it is the vary nature of who Jesus is that we be well, whole and live in such a way the evil one can touch us not.
That He allows medicine is from His grace and love for us for He told us in these times, these last of the last days that most would hold to an outward form of godliness, denying the power thereof, however His Own would do greater works than He, and we know He never sent anyone to a Dr., the few times it mentioned where He could only heal a few was from they're unbelief, and since we know He is the same, yesterday, today and forever, that must be in effect today.
His command to His disciples was the heal, cleanse, raise, preach. We have strayed from what He taught to where the best anyone has been used of God to carry His healing power to His own has been about 70%.
Jehovah Rapha, the God who heals, is one of his names.
I hope this vaccine is genuine and not a tool of the adversary, but it doesn't look good to many who are Spirit filled and born again and walking in personal, vital relationship with the indwelling Christ and trust in Him to do what He said He would do by protecting us from every scheme of the devil, every fiery dart of the enemy as we wear the full armor of God.
best wishes

Enjoy reading from a biblical perspective.

 

[true_believer]

OK so you changed the topic. This has nothing to do with allergic reactions to the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. But if you want to discuss this claim did you notice your first link said it is not true? That the volunteer did not even get the vaccine, he got the placebo. Which would then make sense why they continued the trials. The vaccine was not the cause. Do you just read headlines and then make your conclusions? Some people do that.

This has nothing to do with allergic reactions to the vaccine being used in the UK right now.

Several of my friends and family members sent me different links about trials of the covid vaccine.
I have several physicians in my family and they always have recommended that any new drug or therapy should not be used in haste.

 

[Angela53510]

I would love to read your source for the two deaths. I have searched and came up with nothing. The two allergic reactions were under investigation. They did not use the words anaphylactic shock in the reports on the allergic reaction of the two from the UK vaccine that I found.

I did find that there were allergic reactions in trials from both groups even among those that received placebos. Of course they have always warned people with allergic reactions not to take vaccines so that is nothing new. Not sure why people are making it sound new.

I would love to read your source for the two deaths. I have searched and came up with nothing. The two allergic reactions were under investigation. They did not use the words anaphylactic shock in the reports on the allergic reaction of the two from the UK vaccine that I found.

I did find that there were allergic reactions in trials from both groups even among those that received placebos. Of course they have always warned people with allergic reactions not to take vaccines so that is nothing new. Not sure why people are making it sound new.

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I have read so much about this vaccine, I can't remember where I read it. Which is a bad excuse, I agree. What I read was that one of the people, had allergies and carried an epi-pen with him. When he went into anaphylactic shock, the medical people used it on him, and he survived. The other one I read no details about, except he went into anaphylactic shock. I also read that 2 people died, no details. (Article below says the other one was similar!)

My thought is the earliest new reports were unfiltered. Meaning gov't censors didn't fix it. They quickly realized how people wouldn't want to take the vaccine, if it had such bad reactions, so they quickly cleaned up and sanitized the wording of the earliest reports. Of course, that is pure speculation in my part, so take it with a large grain of salt. Sometimes we need to make sense of things, and filling in the blank spots, (knowing full well it might not be real! ) helps a lot! For me, anyway!

Here is a link to something about the anaphylactic shock. It's an RA magazine, so it is mostly about immuno-compromised people! It's the 8th heading down.

https://creakyjoints.org/living-wit...cszZO7-_aEav1NPHvT3TmZaD1a0cYMaHs3A0JWLfyhjiQ

It is pushing for people like me to get the vaccine, which is contrary to what the federal government and our provincial government said. There is no provision that any vaccines be put aside for us, and the issue will be looked at in a year, when everyone else has had the vaccine.

Here is one death in Brazil, and I know there is another, but it was not coming up. This is the Canadian MSM, so it has some foundation:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...t-authorities-say-trial-to-continue-1.5155732

I hope that helps!

 

[shittim]

Thank you kindly Angela,
bless you

 

[Scribe]

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I have read so much about this vaccine, I can't remember where I read it. Which is a bad excuse, I agree. What I read was that one of the people, had allergies and carried an epi-pen with him. When he went into anaphylactic shock, the medical people used it on him, and he survived. The other one I read no details about, except he went into anaphylactic shock. I also read that 2 people died, no details. (Article below says the other one was similar!)

My thought is the earliest new reports were unfiltered. Meaning gov't censors didn't fix it. They quickly realized how people wouldn't want to take the vaccine, if it had such bad reactions, so they quickly cleaned up and sanitized the wording of the earliest reports. Of course, that is pure speculation in my part, so take it with a large grain of salt. Sometimes we need to make sense of things, and filling in the blank spots, (knowing full well it might not be real! ) helps a lot! For me, anyway!

Here is a link to something about the anaphylactic shock. It's an RA magazine, so it is mostly about immuno-compromised people! It's the 8th heading down.

https://creakyjoints.org/living-wit...cszZO7-_aEav1NPHvT3TmZaD1a0cYMaHs3A0JWLfyhjiQ

It is pushing for people like me to get the vaccine, which is contrary to what the federal government and our provincial government said. There is no provision that any vaccines be put aside for us, and the issue will be looked at in a year, when everyone else has had the vaccine.

Here is one death in Brazil, and I know there is another, but it was not coming up. This is the Canadian MSM, so it has some foundation:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...t-authorities-say-trial-to-continue-1.5155732

I hope that helps!

OK. Thanks. No one has died from the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine and if that does happen it will be stopped immediately.

We have known for decades not to give vaccines to people who are allergic and they are supposed to ask them those questions. They always ask me about allergies before they give me the flu shot. Did the patient with the epi pen lie to them to get the vaccine? I guess that is bound to happen. Some will probably not tell them because they want the vaccine so bad.

The article you posted about the AstraZeneca is old news, it stopped the Astra Zeneca trial briefly until it was made clear that it was a volunteer who had been given a Placebo and not related to the vaccine and then they continued it.

Eventually someone will die who has been vaccinated. Even if they get hit by a bus there will be an antivaxxer who tries to tie it to the vaccine. LOL They will create a youtube video with a guy in a lab coat and a stethoscope around his neck explaining how the "DNA vaccine" will change your brain to make you not be able to see a bus. And someone will share the video and say "You've got to see this and warn everyone"

 

[Nehemiah6]

OK. Thanks. No one has died from the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine and if that does happen it will be stopped immediately.

More wishful thinking. Why don't you make an effort to FACE FACTS instead of promoting the lies about these vaccines? If deaths were to occurs, the authorities would either (1) hush them up or (2) attribute them to them other causes. And if you haven't learned about this simple lesson in psychological warfare, then it is time that you woke up. Bio-warfare and pysch-ops go hand in hand.

The governments of the world have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in the welfare of the citizenry. This is all about (1) mass manipulation, (2) tyrannical control, (3) power in the hands of a few, (4) billions in the hands of Big Pharma, and (5) huge bribes or payoffs for all the people supporting this evil agenda. So if Big Pharma has sent some cash your way, it is best to return it and have nothing to do with it.

 

[PennEd]

People have asked me why I am so relentless in sounding the alarm about how evil and wicked EVERYTHING about this vaccine is, and how much I plead, scare, and love them into NEVER taking these wicked injections. This is why:

Ezekiel 33:1-6 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Watchman and His Message
33 Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, speak to the children of your people, and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword upon a land, and the people of the land take a man from their territory and make him their watchman, 3 when he sees the sword coming upon the land, if he blows the trumpet and warns the people, 4 then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, if the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be on his own head. 5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, but did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. But he who takes warning will [a]save his life. 6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at the watchman’s hand.’

 

[Scribe]

More wishful thinking. Why don't you make an effort to FACE FACTS instead of promoting the lies about these vaccines? If deaths were to occurs, the authorities would either (1) hush them up or (2) attribute them to them other causes. And if you haven't learned about this simple lesson in psychological warfare, then it is time that you woke up. Bio-warfare and pysch-ops go hand in hand.

The governments of the world have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in the welfare of the citizenry. This is all about (1) mass manipulation, (2) tyrannical control, (3) power in the hands of a few, (4) billions in the hands of Big Pharma, and (5) huge bribes or payoffs for all the people supporting this evil agenda. So if Big Pharma has sent some cash your way, it is best to return it and have nothing to do with it.

There are tens of thousands of health care workers employed by thousands of hospitals and other people involved. And to suggest that they will all hide adverse affects is not reality. I will never believe that about most of our health care workers. I believe that most of them are honest and good people who would not hide adverse affects. Not to mention that there are layers of technical controls to keep that from happening.

I will also repeat as I have said before, if people do believe that all of the people that make up the American government are that evil, they should leave. I would not live in a country that was that evil. I have a much more positive view of how the system works.

 

[Scribe]

People have asked me why I am so relentless in sounding the alarm about how evil and wicked EVERYTHING about this vaccine is, and how much I plead, scare, and love them into NEVER taking these wicked injections. This is why:

Ezekiel 33:1-6 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Watchman and His Message
33 Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, speak to the children of your people, and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword upon a land, and the people of the land take a man from their territory and make him their watchman, 3 when he sees the sword coming upon the land, if he blows the trumpet and warns the people, 4 then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, if the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be on his own head. 5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, but did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. But he who takes warning will [a]save his life. 6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at the watchman’s hand.’

Handling the word of God deceitfully. This scripture does not apply to warning people to not take a vaccine that will protect them from getting sick and dying from the COVID-19 virus and if one person dies because they listened to your bad advice even using false interpretations to persuade them, their blood will indeed be on your hands. You brazen shamelessness disturbs me.

 

[PennEd]

Handling the word of God deceitfully. This scripture does not apply to warning people to not take a vaccine that will protect them from getting sick and dying from the COVID-19 virus and if one person dies because they listened to your bad advice even using false interpretations to persuade them, their blood will indeed be on your hands. You brazen shamelessness disturbs me.

And how much blood will be on YOUR hands, if people die, get sterile, or who knows what other side effects they get from the poison you relentlessly push?

 

[Scribe]

And how much blood will be on YOUR hands, if people die, get sterile, or who knows what other side effects they get from the poison you relentlessly push?

I don't push it. I focus on what is provable science and facts.

If there are adverse affects I will acknowledge that they have been uncovered, discovered, or have occurred. I just don't embrace hysteria and lies from antivaxxers with no proof just because they WANT vaccines to fail.

If the vaccine is working and it is safe there is no sin in acknowledging that. When there are real adverse affects I will acknowledge that.

People can make their own decisions based on reading about how the vaccine works, how it is developed, the safety testing results, and eventually time will reveal if it is as safe as the testing revealed. If people want to wait and see what happens they should.

I am not pushing that anyone take any vaccines without researching the published data.

Trying to make people think God wants you to warn them that they will be doing something sinful and against the Lord by taking a vaccine means that you don't believe that the facts are sufficient to give them the information they need to make an informed decision so you must attempt to persuade them by making them think they are going to be rejecting the warning of the prophet (Ezek 33) if they decide to get a vaccine.

It is bad hermeneutics of Ezek 33 for one. And based on the actual data so far it is most likely, most probable, that more people would be harmed by taking your advice than those who take the vaccine.

At this point I would feel much more like I was operating in the Love and compassion of Jesus Christ if I were to help old people get vaccinated than if I were to tell them not to.

We each have to answer to God according to the illumination we have been given.